Upgrade from PS 5.5 to 7.0 or CS?

"Dennis Kuhn" wrote in message

Greetings,

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When shopping around, I saw Photoshop CS on the shelf, so I Googled the newsgroups to see what I could see. It looks like CS has a _few_ more features than 7.0, but am I wrong in assuming there’s a Microsoft-like license fee that I’ll have to keep paying? If so, that’ll clinch my decision to go with 7.0 instead.

There is no fee; just the price of the software you purchase. And since when did Micro$oft have periodical re-licensing fees for a single product?

I have CS under the free 30-day trial, and you can, too. Just download it from www.adobe.com.
It is a full-functional version. Save, Save As and everything. Try it. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

From: (Dennis Kuhn)

I’ve been using Photoshop 5.5 for the last year and a half, either retouching/repairing older photographs or enhancing new photos for use in advertising.

When shopping around, I saw Photoshop CS on the shelf, so I Googled the newsgroups to see what I could see. It looks like CS has a _few_ more features than 7.0, but am I wrong in assuming there’s a Microsoft-like license fee that I’ll have to keep paying? If so, that’ll clinch my decision to go with 7.0 instead.

There’s no additional fee beyond the purchase price. Most of the anti-CS bitching has been about the activation policy but if you have a valid serial # for 5.5 that’s not a problem.

CS has a LOT of new features designed specifically for digital photography, making this decision a no-brainer … get the CS upgrade instead of V7. I think CS is the best upgrade yet for digital photography.

Bill

"jjs" …

"Dennis Kuhn" wrote in message

Greetings,

[…]
When shopping around, I saw Photoshop CS on the shelf, so I Googled the newsgroups to see what I could see. It looks like CS has a _few_ more features than 7.0, but am I wrong in assuming there’s a Microsoft-like license fee that I’ll have to keep paying? If so, that’ll clinch my decision to go with 7.0 instead.

There is no fee; just the price of the software you purchase. And since when did Micro$oft have periodical re-licensing fees for a single product?

The new Office suite has a yearly license renewal fee, at least for corporate users. A lot of IT personnel are looking to either switch to another productivity suite or just not upgrade to Office XP.

I have CS under the free 30-day trial, and you can, too. Just download it from www.adobe.com.
It is a full-functional version. Save, Save As and everything. Try it. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

With my 56k connection, I’m not really looking to spend that much time downloading. I have tried out PS 7 at the photo studio I contract for, but I was hoping I could get a few replies like, "there’s this great new feature in CS that I can’t live without" or "there really isn’t anything useful in the long list of new tools".

One person sent me an email reply to my original post with downloadable links to things like Xenofex and Eye Candy plugins. Assuming those haven’t been made available as legitimate freeware yet, I’ll just go on record and say that I’m NOT looking for that sort of thing. I pay through the nose for my tools because of warez kiddies. The expense is partly why I haven’t upgraded until now, actually. That and having to upgrade my hardware just to meet the minimum requirements for the software upgrades. 🙂

Dennis

From: (Dennis Kuhn)

I have tried out PS 7 at the photo studio I contract
for, but I was hoping I could get a few replies like, "there’s this great new feature in CS that I can’t live without" or "there really isn’t anything useful in the long list of new tools".

You’ve probably seen the list of new features … what’s important to you will depend on how you work, but for me, working with film scans and with Canon 10D digital RAW files, there are several new CS features that make the upgrade worthwhile. My list would include

* much better 16 bit support, with layers and adjustment layers.

* the RAW converter is much better than the Canon supplied converter.

* Shadow/highlight tool is very useful to me for coaxing additional shadow details out of films scanned with a desktop scanner. Scans from a Nikon 8000 now look closer to Tango drum scans thanks to the shadow setting I use. Only applicable to about 20% of my images (ones with important shadow detail) but a very valuable tool for that.

There are other improvements that are, to me, ‘nice to have’ but the ones mentioned are things I feel make it a valuable upgrade for the way I work. YMMV, that’s why people can’t tell you exactly what you’re looking for, we have no idea how you work or what you need. Obviously if you don’t believe in the 16-bit religion, don’t shoot digital cameras in RAW mode or have perfectly exposed images the things I mention aren’t things you’d want to upgrade for.

Bill

(Dennis Kuhn) wrote:

The new Office suite has a yearly license renewal fee, at least for corporate users. A lot of IT personnel are looking to either switch to another productivity suite or just not upgrade to Office XP.

Having been around small computers since their inception (Altair, IMSAI and HP9830A, anyone?), I continue to be fascinated by software giants that completely own a section of the market and find elaborate and effective ways to shoot themselves in the foot (or temple), usually by ignoring and alienating their loyal user base. WordStar. Lotus. WordPerfect. Novell. And now, with the first serious encroachment on Windows and Office beginning, Microsoft diligently follows the lead of those dead ducks and finds a way to piss off even their loyal users and force them to other vendors.

Talk about repeating forgotten history… and it used to be measured in centuries or decades, not weeks.

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Hey Hec,
Does this count as software by subscription??
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Ron.

Dennis Kuhn wrote in message

The new Office suite has a yearly license renewal fee, at least for corporate users. A lot of IT personnel are looking to either switch to another productivity suite or just not upgrade to Office XP.

Hate to tell you Dennis, but the New Office Suite is not Office XP, it is the Office System (Office 2003.) There is not a requirement to buy a yearly liscense renewal. That would be pretty stupid of Microsoft. There is a ..NET Liscensing system to keep you up to date on each release. If you don’t buy that liscense, then you only get Security updates not the latest and greatest version.

Rodger
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Hey Hec,
Does this count as software by subscription??
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Ron.

Dennis Kuhn wrote in message

The new Office suite has a yearly license renewal fee, at least for corporate users. A lot of IT personnel are looking to either switch to another productivity suite or just not upgrade to Office XP.

Trouble is if you have version 7 on your machine and try the upgrade how do you get just the upgrade off if you don’t like it? seems to change the version 7 files.
"jjs" wrote in message

"Dennis Kuhn" wrote in message

Greetings,

[…]
When shopping around, I saw Photoshop CS on the shelf, so I Googled the newsgroups to see what I could see. It looks like CS has a _few_ more features than 7.0, but am I wrong in assuming there’s a Microsoft-like license fee that I’ll have to keep paying? If so, that’ll clinch my decision to go with 7.0 instead.

There is no fee; just the price of the software you purchase. And since

when

did Micro$oft have periodical re-licensing fees for a single product?
I have CS under the free 30-day trial, and you can, too. Just download it from www.adobe.com.
It is a full-functional version. Save, Save As and everything. Try it. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.