Prints on stretched canvas

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
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In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the £40 cost, I’d be interested to hear it.

Seems there’s a reason they cost so much…

Voivod wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
scribbled:

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
wrote:

I wanted to get a few prints put onto stretched framed canvas, as it’s very much the in-thing nowadays.
I checked around for prices, and it seems like I’m looking at about £40 each for the size I want.
Well, I thought to myself, That’s a lot of money which I can’t really justify spending just now.
So this got me to thinking, and I came up with a (not very good) plan.
I went into town to our local ats and crafts shop and bought a couple of artists canvases. You know the sort, already stretched onto a frame, all ready for someone to paint on with oils or acrylics. About £2 each, so nicely cheap and affordable
I also bought some inkjet printer tee-shirt transfer paper.
Are you starting to see my train of thought here?
All sounds perfectly logical and sensible at this stage, right?
So I came home and prepared my first image, flipped it so it was a mirror image of itself, and printed it out at the highest quality onto the inkjet paper.
I then left it for 30 mins, as per the instructions to ensure the inks had set properly.

While it was setting, I started to prepare the canvas.
I ensured it was spotlessly clean, and packed the hollow back part between the wooden struts with a folded towel to ensure it didn’t sag away during the transfer process.

So, once everything was ready, I placed the transfer paper face down onto the canvas, and ensured it was aligned correctly, put a thin cloth over it to prevent scorching, and then spent the next few minutes with a warm iron pressing the transfer onto the canvas, following the instructions on the packet exactly to the letter.
Once done, I let it stand to cool, again as per the instructions.
Then came the moment of truth.
It was time to peel off the transfer paper.
I peeled it back, and it came away easily enough, but the scene I saw underneath can only be described as a complete disaster. It turns out these transfers work by turning your image into a thin rubber film which gets transferred onto the fabric.
However, this rubber film doesn’t seem to want to stick to primed painting canvases.
It stuck in some areas and not in others. And as it continued to cool right down to room temperature, it began to shrink, which caused it to crack and then great swathes of it started to peel off.

To say I was disappointed is an understatement.
I thought I had figured out a way of getting a £40 stretched canvas print for about £3. But alas, it wasn’t to be.

I’ve been reading on other techniques that might work however. You can get water slide decal transfer paper for inkjet printers which will probably take better on these primed artists canvases.
Of course, it will always look like a transfer on the surface, but from what I’ve read onlne, you can fix that quite easily.
You simply paint real turpentine over it and the image melts into the surface of whatever you applied the transfer to, making it a part of that surface.
And best of all, it shouldn’t cost much more than about £3 – £5 to do.
So I’m gonna give that a go and see what happens. I’ll report back here with my findings.

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the £40 cost, I’d be interested to hear it.

Regards,
Sam.

Seems there’s a reason they cost so much…

It would seem so, but I’m determined to find an affordable way of doing one with an inkjet printer, LOL.
I’ll probably end up spending more than £40 in the process, but it’s no longer about the money now. There’s a principle at stake now, and I won’t sleep at night if I let it drop.

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"Fat Sam" wrote in message

I wanted to get a few prints put onto stretched framed canvas, as it’s very much the in-thing nowadays.
I checked around for prices, and it seems like I’m looking at about

"Fat Sam" wrote in message

I wanted to get a few prints put onto stretched framed canvas, as it’s very much the in-thing nowadays.

[snip fun experiment]

The temperature and time are critical, as is the contact between the iron and the transfer. I sounds like your temperature was too low.

Another thought would be to print directly to the canvas and then mount or re-mount it – use a scrap from your earlier disaster and see if you can run it through your inkjet. It may take two passes to get the colors saturated enough.
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Fat Sam wrote:

Voivod wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
scribbled:

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the £40 cost, I’d be interested to hear it.

Seems there’s a reason they cost so much…

It would seem so, but I’m determined to find an affordable way of doing one with an inkjet printer, LOL.
I’ll probably end up spending more than £40 in the process, but it’s no longer about the money now. There’s a principle at stake now, and I won’t sleep at night if I let it drop.

The Epson the canvas "paper" is about $66US a roll 13" x 20ft and my guess is its about $6 in ink to print a A3

Total of about $10 for an A3 that’s what something 5UK pounds

This does get stretched over a frame.

Rob wrote:

Fat Sam wrote:

Voivod wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
scribbled:

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the

Fat Sam wrote:

Rob wrote:

Fat Sam wrote:

Voivod wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
scribbled:

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the £40 cost, I’d be interested to hear it.

Seems there’s a reason they cost so much…

It would seem so, but I’m determined to find an affordable way of doing one with an inkjet printer, LOL.
I’ll probably end up spending more than £40 in the process, but it’s no longer about the money now. There’s a principle at stake now, and I won’t sleep at night if I let it drop.

The Epson the canvas "paper" is about $66US a roll 13" x 20ft and my guess is its about $6 in ink to print a A3

Total of about $10 for an A3 that’s what something 5UK pounds
This does get stretched over a frame.

I had considered printing direct onto canvas and stretching it myself, but I’d need to invest in an A3 printer then, as my A4 just isn’t big enough for the job.

The print shop does have to invest in a printer as well then make a profit – there not a charity, so the 40 quid is not all that much to get a print done. On the assumption its an A3 print.

Ok then how much is it going to cost you to produce a print then offer it for resale?? were not talking about intellectual property.

So

Materials –
paper
inks

Equipment
printer (capital expenditure, depreciation)
computer (capital expenditure, depreciation)
software (capital expenditure, depreciation)

Labor
Shop front

Add all these then add your profit margin then what does that come to??

I will not go any further your 2 quid print is looking good even if its only A4 size.

Rob wrote:

Fat Sam wrote:

Rob wrote:

Fat Sam wrote:

Voivod wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
scribbled:

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the

Rob wrote:

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I had considered printing direct onto canvas and stretching it myself, but I’d need to invest in an A3 printer then, as my A4 just isn’t big enough for the job.

The print shop does have to invest in a printer as well then make a profit – there not a charity, so the 40 quid is not all that much to get a print done. On the assumption its an A3 print.

Ok then how much is it going to cost you to produce a print then offer it for resale?? were not talking about intellectual property.
So

I think he is talking about the problem printing T-Shirt Transfer to canvas texture. The Iron On T-Shirt Transfer Paper

No doubt I will end up going to a photo-lab and spending the

Joel wrote:

Rob wrote:

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I had considered printing direct onto canvas and stretching it myself, but I’d need to invest in an A3 printer then, as my A4 just isn’t big enough for the job.

The print shop does have to invest in a printer as well then make a profit – there not a charity, so the 40 quid is not all that much to get a print done. On the assumption its an A3 print.

Ok then how much is it going to cost you to produce a print then offer it for resale?? were not talking about intellectual property.
So

I think he is talking about the problem printing T-Shirt Transfer to canvas texture. The Iron On T-Shirt Transfer Paper

Yes, but he could not justify the cost of getting a print done commercially, resorting to the iron on transfer method, which I can’t see being successful.

Rob wrote:

Joel wrote:

Rob wrote:

<snip>

I had considered printing direct onto canvas and stretching it myself, but I’d need to invest in an A3 printer then, as my A4 just isn’t big enough for the job.

The print shop does have to invest in a printer as well then make a profit – there not a charity, so the 40 quid is not all that much to get a print done. On the assumption its an A3 print.

Ok then how much is it going to cost you to produce a print then offer it for resale?? were not talking about intellectual property.
So

I think he is talking about the problem printing T-Shirt Transfer to canvas texture. The Iron On T-Shirt Transfer Paper

Yes, but he could not justify the cost of getting a print done commercially, resorting to the iron on transfer method, which I can’t see being successful.

Actually I have no idea about the whole thing like £40 (around 75-80US$?) and it seems like small print (a full page or little larger than 8×10?) etc. they don’t add up.

Me, I just add some canvas texture and print something like 24-30+" or so for around $30 (sometime cheaper when onsale). Also, I haven’t tried large print on iron on T-Shirt transfer yet (thinking about it), but over a decade ago I have printed few dozen iron on T-Shirt and they looked great. And I have been thinking of using some util to print a poster size on multiple sheet of papers (T-Shirt transfer papers) to make a large print.

On Sat, 12 May 2007 23:14:00 +1000, Rob wrote:

Fat Sam wrote:

Rob wrote:

Fat Sam wrote:

Voivod wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:52:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
scribbled:

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any other reliable ways to transfer a print onto an artists canvas without the £40 cost, I’d be interested to hear it.

Seems there’s a reason they cost so much…

It would seem so, but I’m determined to find an affordable way of doing one with an inkjet printer, LOL.
I’ll probably end up spending more than £40 in the process, but it’s no longer about the money now. There’s a principle at stake now, and I won’t sleep at night if I let it drop.

The Epson the canvas "paper" is about $66US a roll 13" x 20ft and my guess is its about $6 in ink to print a A3

Total of about $10 for an A3 that’s what something 5UK pounds
This does get stretched over a frame.

I had considered printing direct onto canvas and stretching it myself, but I’d need to invest in an A3 printer then, as my A4 just isn’t big enough for the job.

The print shop does have to invest in a printer as well then make a profit – there not a charity, so the 40 quid is not all that much to get a print done. On the assumption its an A3 print.

Ok then how much is it going to cost you to produce a print then offer it for resale?? were not talking about intellectual property.
So

Materials –
paper
inks

Equipment
printer (capital expenditure, depreciation)
computer (capital expenditure, depreciation)
software (capital expenditure, depreciation)

Labor
Shop front

Add all these then add your profit margin then what does that come to??
I will not go any further your 2 quid print is looking good even if its only A4 size.

Stop being so damn sensible!

Fat Sam wrote:

I wanted to get a few prints put onto stretched framed canvas, as it’s very much the in-thing nowadays.
I checked around for prices, and it seems like I’m looking at about £40 each for the size I want.
Well, I thought to myself, That’s a lot of money which I can’t really justify spending just now.
So this got me to thinking, and I came up with a (not very good) plan.
I went into town to our local ats and crafts shop and bought a couple of artists canvases. You know the sort, already stretched onto a frame, all ready for someone to paint on with oils or acrylics. About £2 each, so nicely cheap and affordable
I also bought some inkjet printer tee-shirt transfer paper.

http://www.canson.fr/Distributeurs/Pro.php?lng=en&IDGamm e=4&technique=11

Papers for printers > Textures and leisure > Coated Canvas

they also have t shirt transfers.

You may wish to read the other stuff.

You should be able to locate a source in the UK which does supply this stuff as its Made in France or duck over for an hour or so and pick some up.

If you’re looking for serious quality on canvas, here’s an idea; have a Chinese artist paint it in oil for you.

These guys sent me some polite spam email; I considered having them do a promotional item for me, so got some estimates. As I recall, prices went from about twenty bucks for a 5×7 (landscape, quantity 20) to about $200 for a single 20×30. They won’t price til they see exactly what they’re painting.

So I’ve never used them, but from their web site, it looks like they do beautiful work.

Email of the guy I talked to (Li) was

http://oilpaintingstudio.com/

P.S. A quick search shows there’s actually a lot of Chinese oil painting factories out there. Who knew?

Talk about a high-quality print; I think this would be hard to beat.

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Art wrote:

If you’re looking for serious quality on canvas, here’s an idea; have a Chinese artist paint it in oil for you.

These guys sent me some polite spam email; I considered having them do a promotional item for me, so got some estimates.

So you are one of those morons who keeps spamming worthwhile because you react to it? Thanks very much…