Reddish grayscale result

It sounds like a display issue, Sherkan. What kind of monitor do you have? I would think that a redish tint like you’re describing shows up somewhere else.

I would love to find out what this is — I definitely believe it when people say stuff is happening 🙂 Just because "I" never had it happen is meaningless.

So tell us more.

Machine, monitor, color management (if any) software, color model for the original image (grayscale images usually start out as color somewhere in a digital workflow); and have you tried fixing the appearance adjusting levels (or curves) on a single channel??

And red tints don’t mean there’s too much red, necessarily — it can be too little blue or yellow. There are lots of issues at play in color, and something like you’re experiencing is happening for some specific environmental reason — it’s not something that just happens.

If it was, people on this forum would already have told you how to fix it.

🙂

Gary in tampa, florida

On 8/2/07 8:06 PM, in article ,
"Sherkan" wrote:

Hi:

I’m having reddish grayscale results with images opened with Photoshop and only with it, with other applications I have no problems, they look as they are in greyscale. And when I print them they are in greyscale, but on the screen Photoshop display it reddish.

Whatever I open an image already in greyscale or I convert an RGB image to greyscale, the result is the same.

Look at this example. In this case I opened the image with MS Paint, but it happens with any application or sample image. Only in Photoshop looks reddish:

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapcc1.png

and my color managements have this configuration (in spanish but you can understand if you already use PS 🙂 )

http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ajusteswe9.png

Any idea of what it’s wrong?

Thank you.

I forgot to ask you what you have the "image interpolation" values set to. They’re available in a pop-up menu under Preferences>General.

Try a few different ones. I just went to look at the images and the one showing in Photoshop looks like a 16 bit image — but I see how you would think it looked pink. The color range you’re getting off your monitor is much higher than the press can, and what it looks like is happening is that Photoshop is showing the true color, and Painter is showing what the printed piece is.

The range you see is what’s really in the image, though. I took that image you showed us on your site and copied into Photoshop, where it came in as (naturally, for a screen image) an RGB file.

When I converted that image to pure grayscale. The bottom (painter) image still looked flat, and (arguably) "gray-er" than the top image.

I think it’s just showing you true color. If it’s printing OK, Claudia, try to "appreciate" it and just know that you see more accurate, deeper, and visually accurate pixels in PS — particularly in the CS3 and future versions.

That’s only IF it’s printing OK. We look forward to hearing back from you, and thanks for participating in the forums 🙂

Mucho gusto, tambien 🙂

On 8/2/07 8:06 PM, in article ,
"Sherkan" wrote:

Hi:

I’m having reddish grayscale results with images opened with Photoshop and only with it, with other applications I have no problems, they look as they are in greyscale. And when I print them they are in greyscale, but on the screen Photoshop display it reddish.

Whatever I open an image already in greyscale or I convert an RGB image to greyscale, the result is the same.

Look at this example. In this case I opened the image with MS Paint, but it happens with any application or sample image. Only in Photoshop looks reddish:

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapcc1.png

and my color managements have this configuration (in spanish but you can understand if you already use PS 🙂 )

http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ajusteswe9.png

Any idea of what it’s wrong?

Thank you.

Gary wrote in
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I forgot to ask you what you have the "image interpolation" values set to. They’re available in a pop-up menu under Preferences>General.
Try a few different ones. I just went to look at the images and the one showing in Photoshop looks like a 16 bit image — but I see how you would think it looked pink. The color range you’re getting off your monitor is much higher than the press can, and what it looks like is happening is that Photoshop is showing the true color, and Painter is showing what the printed piece is.

The range you see is what’s really in the image, though. I took that image you showed us on your site and copied into Photoshop, where it came in as (naturally, for a screen image) an RGB file.

When I converted that image to pure grayscale. The bottom (painter) image still looked flat, and (arguably) "gray-er" than the top image.
I think it’s just showing you true color. If it’s printing OK, Claudia, try to "appreciate" it and just know that you see more accurate, deeper, and visually accurate pixels in PS — particularly in the CS3 and future versions.

That’s only IF it’s printing OK. We look forward to hearing back from you, and thanks for participating in the forums 🙂

Mucho gusto, tambien 🙂

Answering first the previous post and part of this one, no, is not the monitor. If my monitor (by its controls) is bad color adjusted… why I can take an screenshot like that??? Is not the monitor, is Photoshop. Is the displayed image by software.

My graphics related hardware is a 7600GT and a Samtron (Samsung) 78DF.

When you say in this post that PS is showing the real color, the true color, it’s impossible, I mean, is PS the only one that reads a non- existing tint on the image? Whatever program I use to see the image, it’s just greyscale, without tints. 😕

Again with the true color, you say that if the printing is OK, the thing is that PS is showing all its scale of colors, but, if it’s an image of greyscale… how can have red tints?

4 hours after I posted here and after I searched again, I did what I don’t want to do, create and use another color profile for windows.

What I see is one thing: the color profile from [the manufacturer] and for my monitor is or may be not standard color profile.

I mean that when is set the own monitor color profile, greyscale is showed, ONLY by PS, reddish. The other programs show the image in greyscale.

(NOTE: the color set for windows and PS, ever is the same on both as in PS is configured to use the used for the monitor at that moment)

When I set, let’s say sRGB, as the color profile for windows, PS shows the greyscale image as a greyscale image. The other programs still show the image the same way. Great…. or no. I found a difference.

I reprinted again to have all the proofs and I discovered that the print and the display of the image on the screen by other programs have darker greyscale, but, if I display the image with PS, the image is brighter and not corresponding with other programs displays neither the printing. Why? Why PS shows a brighter image than the print and other programs?

What do you think all about this?

Finally I followed this tutorial to calibrate the monitor (use a translator if needed as is in spanish):

http://www.hugorodriguez.com/calibracion/calibracion_v2_01.h tm

But, if indeed is a solution I don’t feel it could because you finally are using a color profile that is not really prepared for your monitor. It’s only created by your perception and is not ever the same.

(Sorry my english)

P.S.: When I say "other programs" I mean ACDSee, browsers, MS Paint, another image editors, etc.

Another programs I use is TestScreens that use screens like this (not this) to set color on screen:

http://www.nies.ch/pic/monitor-1280×1024.png

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Oh, another thing.

Is normal to see white a little warm not really white at 6500

"Sherkan" wrote in message

Oh, another thing.

Is normal to see white a little warm not really white at 6500

"KatWoman" wrote in
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"Sherkan" wrote in message

Oh, another thing.

Is normal to see white a little warm not really white at 6500

Sherkan wrote:

Hi:

I’m having reddish grayscale results with images opened with Photoshop and only with it, with other applications I have no problems, they look as they are in greyscale. And when I print them they are in greyscale, but on the screen Photoshop display it reddish.

Whatever I open an image already in greyscale or I convert an RGB image to greyscale, the result is the same.

Look at this example. In this case I opened the image with MS Paint, but it happens with any application or sample image. Only in Photoshop looks reddish:

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapcc1.png

and my color managements have this configuration (in spanish but you can understand if you already use PS 🙂 )

http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ajusteswe9.png

Any idea of what it’s wrong?

I don’t know about other but to me there is so many thing wrong.

1. First, Photoshop (or any graphic program) would take lifetime to master, messing around with more than one is a very seriously wrong. You may know more than one but never be able to master any, so you probably end up with none.

2. If gray-scale (B&W) image has some color then it must not be B&W. Either

– Something wrong with one of the 2 programs.

– The image may look B&W but actually COLOR

– Try to save as true B&W mode/format *not* the LOOK see if it helps (it should).

Again, I would suggest to drop dead one program to have more time to master one. I don’t care if you use Photoshop, PSP, GIMP or whatever, but it isn’t a good idea to mess with more than one when you don’t even know one.

Thank you.