Depression and Creativity

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wayne
Aug 16, 2007
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Hi All,

I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression: http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068

The other column articles can be viewed here:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/dimw.php

Cheers,

Wayne


Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Photography and Art Forums http://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/

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David Kilpatrick
Aug 16, 2007
Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
Hi All,

I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression: http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068

Hey, you get some great Google ads when you write about depression. You even get Jesus advertising in person. Makes it worth going off topic now and then just to see what Google ads throws up…

David
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wayne
Aug 16, 2007
LOL well I don’t consider creativity off topic.

Cheers,

Wayne

Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Photography and Art Forums http://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/

David Kilpatrick wrote:
Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
Hi All,

I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression: http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068

Hey, you get some great Google ads when you write about depression. You even get Jesus advertising in person. Makes it worth going off topic now and then just to see what Google ads throws up…

David
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Allen
Aug 16, 2007
Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
LOL well I don’t consider creativity off topic.
I wish everyone who posts here had the same view.
Allen
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Matt Clara
Aug 16, 2007
"Allen" wrote in message
Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
LOL well I don’t consider creativity off topic.
I wish everyone who posts here had the same view.
Allen

On-topic spam is still spam.


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dennisgg
Aug 28, 2007
Well, alot of the great art of the history was from depression or some other state of emotional pain. This holds true for paintings, sculptures, music, writing, etc. Nothing like mental anguish to get the creativity juices flowing to express it.

Dennis

"Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote in message
Hi All,

I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression: http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068

The other column articles can be viewed here:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/dimw.php

Cheers,

Wayne


Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Photography and Art Forums http://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
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peter
Aug 28, 2007
Dennis’ Newsgroups wrote:
Well, alot of the great art of the history was from depression or some other state of emotional pain. This holds true for paintings, sculptures, music, writing, etc. Nothing like mental anguish to get the creativity juices flowing to express it.
The artist starving in a garret is certainly still a popular stereotype and, as such, has to be taken seriously.

So, yes, unhappy people have produced wonderful work – most recently, I read a review of a biography of Josef Conrad that seems to confirm that view in spades. He left a happy life as a seaman for an unhappy one as a writer and family man.

I’m not sure that it is necessary, though. It certainly isn’t sufficient – unhappy people also produce crap.
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eam
Aug 29, 2007
Peter H.M.Brooks wrote:
Dennis’ Newsgroups wrote:

Well, alot of the great art of the history was from depression or some other state of emotional pain. This holds true for paintings, sculptures, music, writing, etc. Nothing like mental anguish to get the creativity juices flowing to express it.
The artist starving in a garret is certainly still a popular stereotype and, as such, has to be taken seriously.

So, yes, unhappy people have produced wonderful work – most recently, I read a review of a biography of Josef Conrad that seems to confirm that view in spades. He left a happy life as a seaman for an unhappy one as a writer and family man.

I’m not sure that it is necessary, though. It certainly isn’t sufficient – unhappy people also produce crap.
Yes, but it’s well-known that Conrad had a heart of darkness.
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pico
Aug 29, 2007
The artist starving in a garret is certainly still a popular stereotype and, as such, has to be taken seriously.

A lot of people believe in alien invaders. Does that mean we have to take them seriously?
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peter
Aug 29, 2007
Erik A. Mattila wrote:
Peter H.M.Brooks wrote:
Dennis’ Newsgroups wrote:

Well, alot of the great art of the history was from depression or some other state of emotional pain. This holds true for paintings, sculptures, music, writing, etc. Nothing like mental anguish to get the creativity juices flowing to express it.
The artist starving in a garret is certainly still a popular stereotype and, as such, has to be taken seriously.

So, yes, unhappy people have produced wonderful work – most recently, I read a review of a biography of Josef Conrad that seems to confirm that view in spades. He left a happy life as a seaman for an unhappy one as a writer and family man.

I’m not sure that it is necessary, though. It certainly isn’t sufficient – unhappy people also produce crap.
Yes, but it’s well-known that Conrad had a heart of darkness.
Mmm. Nice enought pun, I suppose, but a little weak.

To have written a work so powerful as to be able to be transmogrified into ‘Apocalypse Now’ with hardly any fundamental artistic modification is quite extraordinarily able. He also wrote many other hugely powerful works.

English wasn’t even his first language.

Strangely he had little confidence himself in his magnificent ouvre.
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peter
Aug 29, 2007
pico wrote:
The artist starving in a garret is certainly still a popular stereotype and, as such, has to be taken seriously.

A lot of people believe in alien invaders. Does that mean we have to take them seriously?
No. Stereotypes are different from mass delusions.

However, the mass delusion of Incubi and Succubi, being identical to that of the mass delusion of alien invaders, is important for different reasons – it is something that people wish to believe in. See ‘Extraordinary Popular Delusions, and the madness of crowds’ to understand the difference.

Stereotypes are popular generalisations and, as such, are always wrong about certain individuals – but at the same time, always right in some way about the general case. Think of the stereotype of undertakers being lugubriously – how many have you encountered who are not?
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eam
Aug 30, 2007
Peter H.M.Brooks wrote:
Erik A. Mattila wrote:

Peter H.M.Brooks wrote:

Dennis’ Newsgroups wrote:

Well, alot of the great art of the history was from depression or some other state of emotional pain. This holds true for paintings, sculptures, music, writing, etc. Nothing like mental anguish to get the creativity juices flowing to express it.
The artist starving in a garret is certainly still a popular stereotype and, as such, has to be taken seriously.

So, yes, unhappy people have produced wonderful work – most recently, I read a review of a biography of Josef Conrad that seems to confirm that view in spades. He left a happy life as a seaman for an unhappy one as a writer and family man.

I’m not sure that it is necessary, though. It certainly isn’t sufficient – unhappy people also produce crap.
Yes, but it’s well-known that Conrad had a heart of darkness.

Mmm. Nice enought pun, I suppose, but a little weak.

To have written a work so powerful as to be able to be transmogrified into ‘Apocalypse Now’ with hardly any fundamental artistic modification is quite extraordinarily able. He also wrote many other hugely powerful works.

English wasn’t even his first language.

Strangely he had little confidence himself in his magnificent ouvre.

But Peter, the pun’s engine cranks out its weary prose, fueled by weakness. How else to elicit groans instead of laughter. How would Conrad describe the pun?

“He was obeyed, yet he inspired neither love nor fear, nor even respect. He inspired uneasiness. That was it!”

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