Vectoring with PS

"nonoe" wrote:

Hello, I want to learn how to vector images, I know you are supposed to use the pen tool, but I need some instructions, anyone knows a nice tutorial for this purpose?

Thanks in advance!

I don’t use Pen Tool, but I have seen several video tutorial found on web and they covered many small detail. I don’t remember the links but you should be able to GOOGLE for several of them.

And I can see that Pen Tool if using correctly which has lot more advantage than Lasso, but because I am so used with Lasso and can get around with other trick so never learned to use Pen Tool. But I may try some day.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:06:04 -0500, Joel wrote:

I don’t use Pen Tool, but I have seen several video tutorial found on web and they covered many small detail. I don’t remember the links but you should be able to GOOGLE for several of them.

And I can see that Pen Tool if using correctly which has lot more advantage than Lasso, but because I am so used with Lasso and can get around with other trick so never learned to use Pen Tool. But I may try some day.

So true. I know photoshop reasonable well, using it since v7, but I also do not use the Pen Tool, because typical PS, there is alternatives for everything. General speaking, the Pen Tool is not very popular:-)

Dave

Dave wrote:

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:06:04 -0500, Joel wrote:

I don’t use Pen Tool, but I have seen several video tutorial found on web and they covered many small detail. I don’t remember the links but you should be able to GOOGLE for several of them.

And I can see that Pen Tool if using correctly which has lot more advantage than Lasso, but because I am so used with Lasso and can get around with other trick so never learned to use Pen Tool. But I may try some day.

So true. I know photoshop reasonable well, using it since v7, but I also do not use the Pen Tool, because typical PS, there is alternatives for everything. General speaking, the Pen Tool is not very popular:-)

But it seems a pretty powerful if someone be able to master it. I didn’t learn it because Lasso was easier than Pen Tool, and now I have mastered the Lasso so I can get around without Pen Tool. Or if I know how powerful it’s then I may start with Pen Tool instead of Lasso.

Dave

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Dave wrote:

So true. I know photoshop reasonable well, using it since v7, but I also do not use the Pen Tool, because typical PS, there is alternatives for everything. General speaking, the Pen Tool is not very popular:-)

However, there are some things, such as creating a clipping path for images intended for professional printing on a printing press, for which no other adequate alternative exists.

People tend to be afraid of the pen tool; it is arguably the most difficult tool in the toolbar to learn. That’s a pity, because it’s also arguably the most powerful, and for some applications gives higher quality results than any other technique.

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So, what to use to create vectors? :p
thanks

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In article <fccsug$mib$>, "nonoe" wrote:

So, what to use to create vectors? :p

The best vector illustration tool out there is Illustrator, not Photoshop. Photoshop has some crude vector capability, in the form of the Pen tool and Shape layers, but it is no substitute for Illustrator.

If you wish to create vector objects in Photoshop, the Pen tool is probably your best bet.

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Hmm… guess I’ll take a look at Illustrator, though I remember I hada lot of troubles before.

thanks!

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nonoe wrote:

Hmm… guess I’ll take a look at Illustrator, though I remember I hada lot of troubles before.

thanks!

Illy has heck of a learning curve, but it’s well worth the effort. There’s really nothing out there that comes close to it these days, although Adobe have successfully made it hard to use even the most basic tools. Hopefully one day they can copy some of the easy vector tools from Flash back into Illy… If you want quick and dirty vectors, it’s FAR easier to sketch in Flash and copy/paste back into Illustrator! (this can only be done with CS3 mind you).

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Hey Space

The Pen engine in AI is exactly the same as the Pen engine in PS. You don’t have to learn AI to vector pieces for your PS imagery. In fact, 99% of what you would ever use AI for (relative to a Photoshop image or project) is in that very pen tool. That and shape layers for things like gradients or special masking are all components of Photoshop. And I’m not talking extended. Bring the animation and measurement tools to play and PS is actually the right tool for the job.

We write educational materials for all the Suite apps — I’m not saying you shouldn’t learn AI; it’s hardcore illustration, believe me. All I’m saying is that on a project basis you don’t need to cross the application fence from one to another. You just don’t.

Gary in tampa

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"SpaceGirl" wrote:

nonoe wrote:

Hmm… guess I’ll take a look at Illustrator, though I remember I hada lot of troubles before.

thanks!

Illy has heck of a learning curve, but it’s well worth the effort. There’s really nothing out there that comes close to it these days, although Adobe have successfully made it hard to use even the most basic tools. Hopefully one day they can copy some of the easy vector tools from Flash back into Illy… If you want quick and dirty vectors, it’s FAR easier to sketch in Flash and copy/paste back into Illustrator! (this can only be done with CS3 mind you).

Gary wrote:

Hey Space

The Pen engine in AI is exactly the same as the Pen engine in PS. You don’t have to learn AI to vector pieces for your PS imagery. In fact, 99% of what you would ever use AI for (relative to a Photoshop image or project) is in that very pen tool. That and shape layers for things like gradients or special masking are all components of Photoshop. And I’m not talking extended. Bring the animation and measurement tools to play and PS is actually the right tool for the job.

We write educational materials for all the Suite apps — I’m not saying you shouldn’t learn AI; it’s hardcore illustration, believe me. All I’m saying is that on a project basis you don’t need to cross the application fence from one to another. You just don’t.

Gary in tampa

Kinda. Pen itself is the same, but convert anchor works differently between PSCS3 and AICS3. Try holding down the Apple key while clicking an anchor point. Try the same again in Flash. All 3 are different, with Flash being the easiest of the 3.

Maybe for your projects you do not need to combine tools, but we mostly build things for Flash. The boolean operations in Illy are really powerful (similar functionality exists in Flash); PS can’t do any of that that.

Personally I find Illy easier for most vector work, and only use the vector pen tool in PS for creating fast masks (when the thing I’m masking has a fairly regular boundary).

But I guess that’s the beauty of CS3… there is no one way of doing things! You can build your own workflow that fits the task at hand best. The suite as a whole is amazing 🙂

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Gary wrote:

The Pen engine in AI is exactly the same as the Pen engine in PS. You don’t have to learn AI to vector pieces for your PS imagery. In fact, 99% of what you would ever use AI for (relative to a Photoshop image or project) is in that very pen tool.

Umm…fill and stroke? 🙂

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