– Can I transform font layers to vector outlines in Photoshop?

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nothanks
Nov 26, 2004
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Using Photoshop 7…

Is there any way for me to save a logo done in Photoshop 7 and made up entirely of fonts (all vector) but not require those fonts when re-opening at the other end, while retaining the vector qualities of the file? Something like "create outlines" in Illustrator.

You can’t edit the logo, but the filesize would be light enough, and you could easily resize it to humongous dimensions without losing detail (unlike 4 color process).

I’d like the person at the other end to be prompted for what specs he’d like to open the file in (width, height and resolution) upon opening, like certain EPS files do.

Can I do that? Save the file as an EPS, and have the printer open it and resize it without losing detail (still vector) but without having to install the fonts, or even know which ones were originally used?

And what happens to effects like dark shadow and outer glow, when I do that?

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Corey
Nov 26, 2004
Yes, and this is often what printers prefer so the actual font isn’t required. Select the type layer and go to Layer > Type > Convert to Shape. As long as it is a vector, there should be no quality loss. I’ve never sent just text converted to shape to a printer, but I have done text and Photoshop graphics (pixel based). I’ve had good success saving the file as PDF and check the box by "Include Vector Data." If it’s just text, an EPS would probably work too.

I had bevels and drop shadows on my text converted to lines and they maintained their original quality just fine.

Converting Type to a shape also allows for modification of the shape of the text, which may come in handy sometime in your future.

Peadge 🙂

"Sock Puppet #4" wrote in message
Using Photoshop 7…

Is there any way for me to save a logo done in Photoshop 7 and made up entirely of fonts (all vector) but not require those fonts when re-opening at the other end, while retaining the vector qualities of the file? Something like "create outlines" in Illustrator.
You can’t edit the logo, but the filesize would be light enough, and you could easily resize it to humongous dimensions without losing detail
(unlike
4 color process).

I’d like the person at the other end to be prompted for what specs he’d
like
to open the file in (width, height and resolution) upon opening, like certain EPS files do.

Can I do that? Save the file as an EPS, and have the printer open it and resize it without losing detail (still vector) but without having to
install
the fonts, or even know which ones were originally used?
And what happens to effects like dark shadow and outer glow, when I do
that?
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nothanks
Nov 26, 2004
Awesome.

Now for problem #2 – when the printer resizes this logo, the bevels and drop shadows don’t follow the size change proportionately. A 35 pixel bevel height remains 35 pixels in height even if the logo is reduced to half its size.

How does one tell the effects to follow the various resizings of the layer they’re applied to?

Thanks!

"Peadge" wrote in message
Yes, and this is often what printers prefer so the actual font isn’t required. Select the type layer and go to Layer > Type > Convert to Shape. As long as it is a vector, there should be no quality loss. I’ve never sent
just text converted to shape to a printer, but I have done text and Photoshop graphics (pixel based). I’ve had good success saving the file as PDF and check the box by "Include Vector Data." If it’s just text, an EPS would probably work too.

I had bevels and drop shadows on my text converted to lines and they maintained their original quality just fine.

Converting Type to a shape also allows for modification of the shape of the
text, which may come in handy sometime in your future.

Peadge 🙂
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edjh
Nov 26, 2004
Sock Puppet #4 wrote:
Awesome.

Now for problem #2 – when the printer resizes this logo, the bevels and drop shadows don’t follow the size change proportionately. A 35 pixel bevel height remains 35 pixels in height even if the logo is reduced to half its size.

How does one tell the effects to follow the various resizings of the layer they’re applied to?

Thanks!

"Peadge" wrote in message

Yes, and this is often what printers prefer so the actual font isn’t required. Select the type layer and go to Layer > Type > Convert to Shape. As long as it is a vector, there should be no quality loss. I’ve never sent
just text converted to shape to a printer, but I have done text and Photoshop graphics (pixel based). I’ve had good success saving the file as PDF and check the box by "Include Vector Data." If it’s just text, an EPS would probably work too.

I had bevels and drop shadows on my text converted to lines and they maintained their original quality just fine.

Converting Type to a shape also allows for modification of the shape of the
text, which may come in handy sometime in your future.

Peadge 🙂
Right click on the "f" on the layer and choose Scale Effects from the context menu.


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Kingdom
Nov 28, 2004
"Sock Puppet #4" wrote in
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Using Photoshop 7…

Is there any way for me to save a logo done in Photoshop 7 and made up entirely of fonts (all vector) but not require those fonts when re-opening at the other end, while retaining the vector qualities of the file? Something like "create outlines" in Illustrator.
You can’t edit the logo, but the filesize would be light enough, and you could easily resize it to humongous dimensions without losing detail (unlike 4 color process).

I’d like the person at the other end to be prompted for what specs he’d like to open the file in (width, height and resolution) upon opening, like certain EPS files do.

Can I do that? Save the file as an EPS, and have the printer open it and resize it without losing detail (still vector) but without having to install the fonts, or even know which ones were originally used?
And what happens to effects like dark shadow and outer glow, when I do that?

Hi Sock Puppet

Don’t know the answer to this one but if it were me I think I’d use illustrator rather than PS.

Anyway when you coming back to ABPW?


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WharfRat
Nov 28, 2004
in article iPIpd.5318$, edjh at
wrote on 11/26/04 8:26 AM:

Sock Puppet #4 wrote:
Awesome.

Now for problem #2 – when the printer resizes this logo, the bevels and drop shadows don’t follow the size change proportionately. A 35 pixel bevel height remains 35 pixels in height even if the logo is reduced to half its size.

How does one tell the effects to follow the various resizings of the layer they’re applied to?

Thanks!

"Peadge" wrote in message

Yes, and this is often what printers prefer so the actual font isn’t required. Select the type layer and go to Layer > Type > Convert to Shape. As long as it is a vector, there should be no quality loss. I’ve never sent
just text converted to shape to a printer, but I have done text and Photoshop graphics (pixel based). I’ve had good success saving the file as PDF and check the box by "Include Vector Data." If it’s just text, an EPS would probably work too.

I had bevels and drop shadows on my text converted to lines and they maintained their original quality just fine.

Converting Type to a shape also allows for modification of the shape of the
text, which may come in handy sometime in your future.

Peadge 🙂
Right click on the "f" on the layer and choose Scale Effects from the context menu.
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If you save the file as an .eps file and want the printer to open the file and
save it at a different size –
the file will be rasterized as soon as it is re-opened
and your resizing of all vector objects
will be crappy just like the resized contone items.
(Depending on your file resolution and the enlargement – of course). You would need to save the file as a .pdp file,
to keep the vector items.

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sp4
Nov 30, 2004
"edjh" wrote in message
Right click on the "f" on the layer and choose Scale Effects from the context menu.

Coolness, many thanks! I’ll try that!
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doh
Dec 6, 2004
"Sock Puppet #4" wrote in message
"edjh" wrote in message
Right click on the "f" on the layer and choose Scale Effects from the context menu.

Coolness, many thanks! I’ll try that!

This asks you what to scale the effects to… when you’re free-transforming objects and resizing on the fly, you don’t know if you’re 50% bigger than the original size, 44%, or 79.35%.

Isn’t there a way for the effects to scale automatically when you free-transform a layer?

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