How to fill a font with a specific pattern ?

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Tue, 28 December 2004 15:25 Go to next message
Rodo (Photoshop begginer)
Hi all,

If I have the word "Hello" on a document (a scanned document with big
letters). How can I type something (like "Gina") and have just the outline
of the font so that I can fill it with the pattern of the "Hello" word ? I
tried all the fonts in PS7 but I can't find how to make it just the outline.
Do I need a special "outline" font ? Then it would be a matter of copy/paste
from the word "Hello" right ?

Thanks
Tue, 28 December 2004 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeremy Drake (Photoshop begginer)
You'll pretty much need to install some Type I fonts to access the outline
mode. Many Adobe products come with a few of these fonts that you can
install easily in Windows 2k/XP/ME. If you're running Win 98 then you might
want to download and install the Adobe Type Manager to install these fonts.

You might want to convert the text you type in PS7 to Raster mode then
select the white area in the text and clear it so you can mask the "Hello"
scan in behind that layer.


"Rodo" <dsp1024@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CijAd.18917$_62.10435@trnddc01...
> Hi all,
>
> If I have the word "Hello" on a document (a scanned document with big
> letters). How can I type something (like "Gina") and have just the outline
> of the font so that I can fill it with the pattern of the "Hello" word ? I
> tried all the fonts in PS7 but I can't find how to make it just the
> outline. Do I need a special "outline" font ? Then it would be a matter of
> copy/paste from the word "Hello" right ?
>
> Thanks
>
Tue, 28 December 2004 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill G (Photoshop begginer)
snip
>How can I type something (like "Gina") and have just the outline of the
>font so that I can fill it with the pattern
end snip

Here is a perhaps inelegant, but quick way.

1. If you do not already have the desired pattern, create it from
an existing image by selecting a "cell" for the pattern, then
Edit/Define pattern, give it a name and save.

2. On a blank image of appropriate size, use the Type tool
to print the desired word or phrase in the font and size of your
choosing.

3. Select the type with the magic wand with Contiguous deselected.
All the type should now be selected. Rasterize the type. You now
have an area of bitmap selected.

4. Fill it with the selected pattern: Edit/Fill, choose Pattern and select
your previously saved pattern.

5. The filled area is already selected. Just copy it and apply it to the
image of your choosing.

Just tried it. It works.

Bill
Tue, 28 December 2004 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corey (Photoshop expert)
Make the graphic of what you want to be inside the text in one layer and
then select all (CTRL+A) and copy (CTRL+C). Go to your text layer and use
the magic Wand tool with contiguous unchecked in the options bar just below
the menu at the top of your screen. Then go to Edit > Paste Into
(SHFT+CTRL+V). This will paste the graphic into the text by use of a. You
can then add a layer style of stroke to the text, perhaps selecting "inside"
to maintain the definition of the font, to give the text outline. You might
want to use a big thick font like Impact or Elephant. You might want to do
this at a high resolution to avoid jagged edges around the text. Initially
the layer mask will not be linked to the graphic pasted inside, so you can
drag the graphic around to position it to your liking. The graphic and mask
can be linked by clicking between the two images in the layers palette.

Another idea that will avoid the jagged edges is to use a vector mask.
Select the Type layer and go to Layer > Type >Convert to Shape. This will
create a vector mask around the type. Select the graphic in the layers
palette and then drag only the vector mask for the type layer down the layer
mask icon at the bottom of the layers palette. This must be done while the
graphic layer is selected (blue background in the layers palette). This will
duplicate the layer mask for the graphic and will result in much smoother
edges. Stroke as well as drop shadow, bevel/emboss or other layer styles
can still be applied to give the edges more definition.

Peadge :-)

"Rodo" <dsp1024@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CijAd.18917$_62.10435@trnddc01...
> Hi all,
>
> If I have the word "Hello" on a document (a scanned document with big
> letters). How can I type something (like "Gina") and have just the outline
> of the font so that I can fill it with the pattern of the "Hello" word ? I
> tried all the fonts in PS7 but I can't find how to make it just the
outline.
> Do I need a special "outline" font ? Then it would be a matter of copy/pas
te
> from the word "Hello" right ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
Wed, 29 December 2004 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpaceGirl (Photoshop expert)
Peadge wrote:
> Make the graphic of what you want to be inside the text in one layer and
> then select all (CTRL+A) and copy (CTRL+C). Go to your text layer and use
> the magic Wand tool with contiguous unchecked in the options bar just below
> the menu at the top of your screen. Then go to Edit > Paste Into
> (SHFT+CTRL+V). This will paste the graphic into the text by use of a. You
> can then add a layer style of stroke to the text, perhaps selecting "inside"
> to maintain the definition of the font, to give the text outline. You might
> want to use a big thick font like Impact or Elephant. You might want to do
> this at a high resolution to avoid jagged edges around the text. Initially
> the layer mask will not be linked to the graphic pasted inside, so you can
> drag the graphic around to position it to your liking. The graphic and mask
> can be linked by clicking between the two images in the layers palette.
>
> Another idea that will avoid the jagged edges is to use a vector mask.
> Select the Type layer and go to Layer > Type >Convert to Shape. This will
> create a vector mask around the type. Select the graphic in the layers
> palette and then drag only the vector mask for the type layer down the layer
> mask icon at the bottom of the layers palette. This must be done while the
> graphic layer is selected (blue background in the layers palette). This will
> duplicate the layer mask for the graphic and will result in much smoother
> edges. Stroke as well as drop shadow, bevel/emboss or other layer styles
> can still be applied to give the edges more definition.
>
> Peadge :-)
>
> "Rodo" <dsp1024@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:CijAd.18917$_62.10435@trnddc01...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>If I have the word "Hello" on a document (a scanned document with big
>>letters). How can I type something (like "Gina") and have just the outline
>>of the font so that I can fill it with the pattern of the "Hello" word ? I
>>tried all the fonts in PS7 but I can't find how to make it just the
>
> outline.
>
>>Do I need a special "outline" font ? Then it would be a matter of copy/pas
>
> te
>
>>from the word "Hello" right ?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>
>
>

Cant you just go into QuickMask (q), type the text you want, come out of
QuickMask (q again) and fill with your pattern (g)? You can fill any
typeface with anything. Seems a lot simpler than all the other solutions
here.

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Wed, 29 December 2004 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corey (Photoshop expert)
"SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote in message
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>
> Cant you just go into QuickMask (q), type the text you want, come out of
> QuickMask (q again) and fill with your pattern (g)? You can fill any
> typeface with anything. Seems a lot simpler than all the other solutions
> here.


QuickMask automatically offers a Bitmap Mask, not Vector. Would he not
still have to save his "Gina text" as a pattern first and apply a layer
style using it? Your method also seems to fill the background, not the text
area.

With a mask, the background can be moved independently from the mask itself,
offering greater positioning options, and using a Vector Mask offers even
greater quality. But I suppose if it eventually for the Web, it may be
overkill. But if it's for a card or something printed at a higher
resolution, a vector mask may be the way to go. It takes way longer to read
my method than to actually do it. :-)

Peadge :-)
Wed, 29 December 2004 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpaceGirl (Photoshop expert)
Peadge wrote:
> "SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote in message
> news:33fk0cF3vgrjmU1@individual.net...
>
>>Cant you just go into QuickMask (q), type the text you want, come out of
>>QuickMask (q again) and fill with your pattern (g)? You can fill any
>>typeface with anything. Seems a lot simpler than all the other solutions
>>here.
>
>
>
> QuickMask automatically offers a Bitmap Mask, not Vector. Would he not
> still have to save his "Gina text" as a pattern first and apply a layer
> style using it? Your method also seems to fill the background, not the text
> area.
>
> With a mask, the background can be moved independently from the mask itself,
> offering greater positioning options, and using a Vector Mask offers even
> greater quality. But I suppose if it eventually for the Web, it may be
> overkill. But if it's for a card or something printed at a higher
> resolution, a vector mask may be the way to go. It takes way longer to read
> my method than to actually do it. :-)
>
> Peadge :-)
>
>

Well you can inverse the selection with CTRL+ALT+S before filling. But
you're right. It is a bitmap mask. I'll have to try your method, never
thought of doing it like that. Thanks! :)

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Wed, 29 December 2004 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpaceGirl (Photoshop expert)
SpaceGirl wrote:
> Peadge wrote:
>
>> "SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote in message
>> news:33fk0cF3vgrjmU1@individual.net...
>>
>>> Cant you just go into QuickMask (q), type the text you want, come out of
>>> QuickMask (q again) and fill with your pattern (g)? You can fill any
>>> typeface with anything. Seems a lot simpler than all the other solutions
>>> here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> QuickMask automatically offers a Bitmap Mask, not Vector. Would he not
>> still have to save his "Gina text" as a pattern first and apply a layer
>> style using it? Your method also seems to fill the background, not
>> the text
>> area.
>>
>> With a mask, the background can be moved independently from the mask
>> itself,
>> offering greater positioning options, and using a Vector Mask offers even
>> greater quality. But I suppose if it eventually for the Web, it may be
>> overkill. But if it's for a card or something printed at a higher
>> resolution, a vector mask may be the way to go. It takes way longer
>> to read
>> my method than to actually do it. :-)
>>
>> Peadge :-)
>>
>>
>
> Well you can inverse the selection with CTRL+ALT+S before filling. But
> you're right. It is a bitmap mask. I'll have to try your method, never
> thought of doing it like that. Thanks! :)
>

DUH... I'm tired Peadge, sorry. I meant SHIFT+CTRL+I (for 'inverse').

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Wed, 29 December 2004 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corey (Photoshop expert)
"SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote in message
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> SpaceGirl wrote:

> >
> > Well you can inverse the selection with CTRL+ALT+S before filling. But
> > you're right. It is a bitmap mask. I'll have to try your method, never
> > thought of doing it like that. Thanks! :)
> >
>
> DUH... I'm tired Peadge, sorry. I meant SHIFT+CTRL+I (for 'inverse').
>

No problem. I've done the same thing.

There should be an automatic choice for a vector or bitmap mask...especially
with type.

Have a great New Year, Space Girl!

Peadge :-)
Thu, 30 December 2004 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lex vd Oudeweetering (Photoshop begginer)
Peadge wrote:
> "SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote in message
> news:33h3heF413hemU4@individual.net...
>
>>SpaceGirl wrote:
>
>
>>>Well you can inverse the selection with CTRL+ALT+S before filling. But
>>>you're right. It is a bitmap mask. I'll have to try your method, never
>>>thought of doing it like that. Thanks! :)
>>>
>>
>>DUH... I'm tired Peadge, sorry. I meant SHIFT+CTRL+I (for 'inverse').
>>
>
>
> No problem. I've done the same thing.
>
> There should be an automatic choice for a vector or bitmap mask...especially
> with type.
>
> Have a great New Year, Space Girl!
>
> Peadge :-)
>
>
Why not use the Mask Type Tool?
Thu, 30 December 2004 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corey (Photoshop expert)
"Lex vd Oudeweetering" <info@lex-illustrator.nl> wrote in message
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> Peadge wrote:
> > "SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote in message
> > news:33h3heF413hemU4@individual.net...
> >
> >>SpaceGirl wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Well you can inverse the selection with CTRL+ALT+S before filling. But
> >>>you're right. It is a bitmap mask. I'll have to try your method, never
> >>>thought of doing it like that. Thanks! :)
> >>>
> >>
> >>DUH... I'm tired Peadge, sorry. I meant SHIFT+CTRL+I (for 'inverse').
> >>
> >
> >
> > No problem. I've done the same thing.
> >
> > There should be an automatic choice for a vector or bitmap
mask...especially
> > with type.
> >
> > Have a great New Year, Space Girl!
> >
> > Peadge :-)
> >
> >
> Why not use the Mask Type Tool?

That would work too. It's just that it is a bitmap mask, not a vector mask,
so quality is resolution-dependant. It definitely has it's merits, but not
knowing the final output resolution or destination (Web or print) for the
OP's graphic, I merely offered a choice.
Good idea though. It didn't even enter my mind.

Have a great New Year!

Peadge :-)
Sun, 02 January 2005 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpaceGirl (Photoshop expert)
Lex vd Oudeweetering wrote:
> Peadge wrote:
>
>> "SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote in message
>> news:33h3heF413hemU4@individual.net...
>>
>>> SpaceGirl wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Well you can inverse the selection with CTRL+ALT+S before filling. But
>>>> you're right. It is a bitmap mask. I'll have to try your method, never
>>>> thought of doing it like that. Thanks! :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> DUH... I'm tired Peadge, sorry. I meant SHIFT+CTRL+I (for 'inverse').
>>>
>>
>>
>> No problem. I've done the same thing.
>>
>> There should be an automatic choice for a vector or bitmap
>> mask...especially
>> with type.
>>
>> Have a great New Year, Space Girl!
>>
>> Peadge :-)
>>
>>
> Why not use the Mask Type Tool?

That's effectively what I suggested, but I couldn't remember if that was
in earlier versions of photoshop. meh. I'm sleepy.

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Mon, 10 January 2005 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HongKong (Photoshop begginer)
1) Create a type layer with the word Gina on it.
2) Convert "Gina" layer to shape. Layer>Type>convert to shape
3) Create a layer above "Gina" layer with scan of "hello"
4) Select "hello" layer and "Control G" or menu Layer>create Cliping
mask
5) Viola - Gina is a vector mask that contains scan of "hello"

Hope this explanation is helpful

Peter


<dsp1024@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>If I have the word "Hello" on a document (a scanned document with big
>letters). How can I type something (like "Gina") and have just the outline
>of the font so that I can fill it with the pattern of the "Hello" word ? I
>tried all the fonts in PS7 but I can't find how to make it just the outline.
>Do I need a special "outline" font ? Then it would be a matter of copy/paste
>from the word "Hello" right ?
>
>Thanks
>
Tue, 11 January 2005 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpaceGirl (Photoshop expert)
Dr. Emilo Lizardo wrote:
> 1) Create a type layer with the word Gina on it.
> 2) Convert "Gina" layer to shape. Layer>Type>convert to shape
> 3) Create a layer above "Gina" layer with scan of "hello"
> 4) Select "hello" layer and "Control G" or menu Layer>create Cliping
> mask
> 5) Viola - Gina is a vector mask that contains scan of "hello"
>
> Hope this explanation is helpful
>
> Peter

hey that's cool... I like that way best too :)

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Tue, 11 January 2005 09:13 Go to previous message
Sami (Photoshop begginer)
You can forget the step 2, it's not necessary and your text stays fully
editable.

There is no create Clipping mask -command in Layer menu, it's Group With
Previous. Yes, there is Vector mask, but it's not the same command as
Ctrl-G.

If you need outlines, you can do them with Layer/Layer style.

Sami

Dr. Emilo Lizardo wrote:
> 1) Create a type layer with the word Gina on it.
> 2) Convert "Gina" layer to shape. Layer>Type>convert to shape
> 3) Create a layer above "Gina" layer with scan of "hello"
> 4) Select "hello" layer and "Control G" or menu Layer>create Cliping
> mask
> 5) Viola - Gina is a vector mask that contains scan of "hello"
>
> Hope this explanation is helpful
>
> Peter
>
>
> <dsp1024@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>If I have the word "Hello" on a document (a scanned document with big
>>letters). How can I type something (like "Gina") and have just the outline
>>of the font so that I can fill it with the pattern of the "Hello" word ? I
>>tried all the fonts in PS7 but I can't find how to make it just the outline.
>>Do I need a special "outline" font ? Then it would be a matter of copy/paste
>
>>from the word "Hello" right ?
>
>>Thanks
>>
>
>
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