Boo hiss Photoshop

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Nov 24, 2007
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I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for washing the dishes.


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jaSPAMc
Nov 24, 2007
"Craigie" found these unused words:

I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for washing the dishes.

I’ve found FireFox to be a bit clumsy, often dropping glassware …

OTOH, Thunderbird is an excellent Crow Scare tool!
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Telemanr
Nov 24, 2007
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

"Craigie" found these unused words:

I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for washing the dishes.

I’ve found FireFox to be a bit clumsy, often dropping glassware …

You need to put it on "gentle" cycle. You probably didn’t notice it because it’s under the "Tools you thought you’d never use" menu which has a transparency setting of 100%. Easy to miss.

OTOH, Thunderbird is an excellent Crow Scare tool!
FA
Frank Arthur
Nov 25, 2007
"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop software you find!


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Scubabix
Nov 25, 2007
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message
"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me

Rob
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toby
Nov 25, 2007
On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me
Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

Try my free Photoshop plugins, http://telegraphics.com.au/sw/
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toby
Nov 25, 2007
On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me
Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

Try my free Photoshop plugins, http://telegraphics.com.au/sw/
FA
Frank Arthur
Nov 26, 2007
"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me
Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.
FA
Frank Arthur
Nov 26, 2007
"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me
Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.
T
toby
Nov 26, 2007
On Nov 26, 6:06 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message


"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me

Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.

I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.
T
toby
Nov 26, 2007
On Nov 26, 6:06 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message


"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me

Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.

I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.
FA
Frank Arthur
Nov 26, 2007
"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 26, 6:06 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message


"Craigie" wrote in
message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use
mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of
Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me

Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and
slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the
former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.

I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

1. Wrong again. I never owned CS2
2. Wrong again. It was chickenbones not fishbones.
3. Wrong again. You don’t have me where they want me.
I could have stayed with Photoshop3- or even my chalk & slate.
4. Are you ever right?
FA
Frank Arthur
Nov 26, 2007
"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 26, 6:06 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message


"Craigie" wrote in
message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use
mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of
Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me

Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and
slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the
former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.

I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

1. Wrong again. I never owned CS2
2. Wrong again. It was chickenbones not fishbones.
3. Wrong again. You don’t have me where they want me.
I could have stayed with Photoshop3- or even my chalk & slate.
4. Are you ever right?
S
Scubabix
Nov 27, 2007
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’ whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others, but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

Rob
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Scubabix
Nov 27, 2007
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’ whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others, but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

Rob
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toby
Nov 27, 2007
On Nov 26, 9:56 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 26, 6:06 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message


On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message


"Craigie" wrote in
message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use
mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of
Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me

Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and
slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the
former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.

I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

1. Wrong again. I never owned CS2
2. Wrong again. It was chickenbones not fishbones.
3. Wrong again. You don’t have me where they want me.
I could have stayed with Photoshop3- or even my chalk & slate.
4. Are you ever right?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

🙂
T
toby
Nov 27, 2007
On Nov 26, 9:56 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 26, 6:06 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message


On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message


"Craigie" wrote in
message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters,
Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use
mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of
Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me

Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without
grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion
of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied
cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and
slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the
former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

On the other hand you would have to wrest my copy of Photoshop CS3 from my
cold dead fingers.

I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

1. Wrong again. I never owned CS2
2. Wrong again. It was chickenbones not fishbones.
3. Wrong again. You don’t have me where they want me.
I could have stayed with Photoshop3- or even my chalk & slate.
4. Are you ever right?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

🙂
T
toby
Nov 27, 2007
On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’ whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others, but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

Rob
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toby
Nov 27, 2007
On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’ whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others, but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

Rob
FA
Frank Arthur
Nov 27, 2007
"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they
want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t
upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’
whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others,
but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the
software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust
upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.
A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed. The miracle is that there are such long delays
between software upgrades when "new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs" occur
immediately after the cut off period.
FA
Frank Arthur
Nov 27, 2007
"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they
want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t
upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’
whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others,
but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the
software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust
upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.
A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed. The miracle is that there are such long delays
between software upgrades when "new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs" occur
immediately after the cut off period.
T
Telemanr
Nov 27, 2007
"Frank Arthur" wrote:

"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they
want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t
upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’
whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others,
but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the
software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust
upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.
A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed. The miracle is that there are such long delays
between software upgrades when "new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs" occur
immediately after the cut off period.
Well the long delays ought to be even longer if the new printing software which went into CS3 is any example of "new ideas".
T
Telemanr
Nov 27, 2007
"Frank Arthur" wrote:

"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they
want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t
upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’
whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others,
but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the
software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust
upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.
A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed. The miracle is that there are such long delays
between software upgrades when "new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs" occur
immediately after the cut off period.
Well the long delays ought to be even longer if the new printing software which went into CS3 is any example of "new ideas".
G
Gary
Nov 27, 2007
I know Adobe since it was 11 people, and they really haven’t changed all that much. They’re surprisingly run by engineers and not suits.

That having been said, engineers are junkies. There are more than a dozen teams in Adobe, all responsible — to us AND the board — for their own apps and making their apps (increasingly) talk to each other in a sensible way.

I personally pay the rent — cause that’s how we look at it — rent to use Adobe products. I have to pay it 12 months or 18 months at a time, but we rent their skill in developing software that’s literally changed the way people communicate. Adobe engineers have provided tools that let us talk to each other and display our individual creativity (or, in my case lack thereof) in ways impossible before now.

Add to that the fact that one half — one half, man — of the people that bought CS are still using it globally. Want the numbers? They’re out there. Adobe grows on new users — or people that do not upgrade every version. Because you do — or somebody in your company pays for our seat and the software near it — doesn’t mean that everybody does, or that adobe is some kind of evil entity out there to destroy us. That’s silly and meaningless. If it bothers you — don’t upgrade.

So people do not — repeat do not — have to upgrade anymore than they have to trade in a new car every two or three years. In some cases client demands require it — like in the case of a printer or prepress house that has to process files coming in from new versions of old and proven apps — but artists used to use friggin paint, remember?

I sense a whine, but who am I to judge? I’m a user who rents a car that lets me make a living without ink on my hands or poured into the river near my house. And their software rocks.

Gary in tampa

On 11/27/07 12:45 PM, in article
, "toby"
wrote:

On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’ whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others, but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

Rob
G
garypoyssick
Nov 27, 2007
I know Adobe since it was 11 people, and they really haven’t changed all that much. They’re surprisingly run by engineers and not suits.

That having been said, engineers are junkies. There are more than a dozen teams in Adobe, all responsible — to us AND the board — for their own apps and making their apps (increasingly) talk to each other in a sensible way.

I personally pay the rent — cause that’s how we look at it — rent to use Adobe products. I have to pay it 12 months or 18 months at a time, but we rent their skill in developing software that’s literally changed the way people communicate. Adobe engineers have provided tools that let us talk to each other and display our individual creativity (or, in my case lack thereof) in ways impossible before now.

Add to that the fact that one half — one half, man — of the people that bought CS are still using it globally. Want the numbers? They’re out there. Adobe grows on new users — or people that do not upgrade every version. Because you do — or somebody in your company pays for our seat and the software near it — doesn’t mean that everybody does, or that adobe is some kind of evil entity out there to destroy us. That’s silly and meaningless. If it bothers you — don’t upgrade.

So people do not — repeat do not — have to upgrade anymore than they have to trade in a new car every two or three years. In some cases client demands require it — like in the case of a printer or prepress house that has to process files coming in from new versions of old and proven apps — but artists used to use friggin paint, remember?

I sense a whine, but who am I to judge? I’m a user who rents a car that lets me make a living without ink on my hands or poured into the river near my house. And their software rocks.

Gary in tampa

On 11/27/07 12:45 PM, in article
, "toby"
wrote:

On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’ whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others, but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

Rob
C
Christina
Nov 27, 2007
Everyone software is good for something. I also believe in open source, and always have a machine dedicated to software for the budget user.

‘Ray Gimp!

christina

"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me
Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

Try my free Photoshop plugins, http://telegraphics.com.au/sw/
C
Christina
Nov 27, 2007
Everyone software is good for something. I also believe in open source, and always have a machine dedicated to software for the budget user.

‘Ray Gimp!

christina

"toby" wrote in message
On Nov 25, 5:13 pm, "Scubabix" wrote:
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

"Craigie" wrote in message
I am staggered that Photoshop cannot help me create fantastic music on my
BBC Micro. It can do everything else. I use Cubase to write letters, Microsoft Word is my primary CAD / 3D program and Firefox I use mainly for
washing the dishes.

Well, the only reasonable thing to do is to destroy every bit of Photoshop
software you find!

Or even better, if you have CS3, send the entire package to me
Rob

Without doubt Photoshop is no longer an interesting product. It staggers forward like a syphilitic, gout-riddled bourgeois… without grace, athleticism, or original spark. It is the overpriced excretion of a monopoly past its use-by date. Exactly like Vista, the un-emptied cat litter of operating systems.

Just as the nimble hyena preys knowingly upon the old, infirm, and slow of the herd – so competitors will spring up as naturally as desert grass after rain, and they will succeed in bringing down the former kings of the jungle – who shall fall, be eaten, and whose remains will rot forgotten to fertilise the new.

Try my free Photoshop plugins, http://telegraphics.com.au/sw/
T
toby
Nov 27, 2007
On Nov 27, 4:37 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they
want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t
upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’
whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others,
but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the
software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust
upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.

If only they were breakthroughs, instead of increasingly meagre attempts to annex 3rd party, non-core features for the sake of keeping that wheel turning. Yes, Photoshop was once an invention (I think I first picked it up at 0.88 beta or somesuch). But that was nearly 20 years ago.

A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed. The miracle is that there are such long delays
between software upgrades when "new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs" occur
immediately after the cut off period.
T
toby
Nov 27, 2007
On Nov 27, 4:37 pm, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
"toby" wrote in message

On Nov 27, 12:35 am, "Scubabix" wrote:
I’m sure you said the same thing about CS2. They have you where they
want you: on the upgrade treadmill. When the next bright shiny is marketed… you’ll drop CS3 like last night’s fishbones.

And you’re driving a 1906 Ford and use an IBM 8088-clone because you don’t
upgrade? Everyone that uses technology is on the "upgrade treadmill’
whether we like it or not. Some take the steps a little slower than others,
but we all still take the steps. Of course, you could always create the
software that is so good it will never be upgraded.

It’s never too late to wake up to the real reason upgrades are thrust
upon us. (Quarterly *cough* reports *cough* of public *cough* companies.)

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.

If only they were breakthroughs, instead of increasingly meagre attempts to annex 3rd party, non-core features for the sake of keeping that wheel turning. Yes, Photoshop was once an invention (I think I first picked it up at 0.88 beta or somesuch). But that was nearly 20 years ago.

A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed. The miracle is that there are such long delays
between software upgrades when "new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs" occur
immediately after the cut off period.
P
pico
Nov 28, 2007
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.
A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed.

Ah, that is the truth. I suspect many people here do not ‘need’ the latest and greatest but whine anyway.

Me? I always have the latest suite. But I drive a 1958 Volkswagen Beetle when I need to drive, maybe once a week, and use a bicycle otherwise. THAT is how I can afford ‘the latest and greatest’. It’s about managing a lifestyle. 🙂
P
pico
Nov 28, 2007
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message

In the real world every day new ideas, inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs occur.
A number of these are organized into "next generation" software and a cut off time is mandatory
in order to get into production and distributed.

Ah, that is the truth. I suspect many people here do not ‘need’ the latest and greatest but whine anyway.

Me? I always have the latest suite. But I drive a 1958 Volkswagen Beetle when I need to drive, maybe once a week, and use a bicycle otherwise. THAT is how I can afford ‘the latest and greatest’. It’s about managing a lifestyle. 🙂

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