Paper for Photo 1200

"bernardlyall" wrote in message

If anyone’s using an Epson Stylus Photo 1200, I’d be grateful to know what papers work well with it. I use Photoshop for mainly darkroom-type activity on b&w scanned negs, but different papers seem to have colour biases – there’s some Canon paper I’ve tried that came up rather brown, some other Epson stuff that comes up greenish – with genuine Epson ink or not, greyscaled images or rgb, different neg stock… all the same result.
All help much appreciated. Fairly new to this game.

Cheers,

Bernard

Hi.

The only paper recommended for a Stylus Photo 1200 is the older Epson Photo Paper Glossy, 194Gm/SqM.

Epson Premium Glossy, and all the other newer papers will not give accurate colours, they were introduced after these printers were replaced.

UNLESS you get a Media Specific ICC Profile made for the Paper, and or Inks you intend to use, and learn enough about Colour Management to use that Profile.

It is not all that difficult or expensive, (provided you do not use the Epson service), and will allow these sturdy printers to work with the modern media.

The Photo 700, 1200 and 1200EX Drivers only install one Printer Profile, and that is a generic one, which only seems to be accurate with that thinnish and none too glossy paper.

Roy G

Thanks Roy, that’s great.

To avoid confusion – I seem to be able to find 194g Epson photo paper still available. They don’t seem to make any 194g paper currently, so can I assume that if I buy at that weight I’m getting the right stuff?

I’ll scale the ICC profile mountain at some point – any idea where I can learn what I need to know?

Cheers,

Bernard

"Roy G" wrote in message

"bernardlyall" wrote in message

If anyone’s using an Epson Stylus Photo 1200, I’d be grateful to know what papers work well with it. I use Photoshop for mainly darkroom-type activity on b&w scanned negs, but different papers seem to have colour biases – there’s some Canon paper I’ve tried that came up rather brown, some other Epson stuff that comes up greenish – with genuine Epson ink or not, greyscaled images or rgb, different neg stock… all the same result.

All help much appreciated. Fairly new to this game.

Cheers,

Bernard

Hi.

The only paper recommended for a Stylus Photo 1200 is the older Epson Photo Paper Glossy, 194Gm/SqM.

Epson Premium Glossy, and all the other newer papers will not give accurate colours, they were introduced after these printers were replaced.
UNLESS you get a Media Specific ICC Profile made for the Paper, and or Inks you intend to use, and learn enough about Colour Management to use that Profile.

It is not all that difficult or expensive, (provided you do not use the Epson service), and will allow these sturdy printers to work with the modern media.

The Photo 700, 1200 and 1200EX Drivers only install one Printer Profile, and that is a generic one, which only seems to be accurate with that thinnish and none too glossy paper.

Roy G

"bernardlyall" wrote in message

If anyone’s using an Epson Stylus Photo 1200, I’d be grateful to know what papers work well with it. I use Photoshop for mainly darkroom-type activity on b&w scanned negs, but different papers seem to have colour biases – there’s some Canon paper I’ve tried that came up rather brown, some other Epson stuff that comes up greenish – with genuine Epson ink or not, greyscaled images or rgb, different neg stock… all the same result.
All help much appreciated. Fairly new to this game.

Cheers,

Bernard

Hi

The paper I mentioned is still listed on the Epson Uk site, but only in A3 size. The product code is C13 SO 41142. Go to Printing Papers and it will show up on page 4 of the 5 pages.

The secret is to ensure that your printer model, or its bigger / smaller brother, appears on the packaging, or as compatible in the list on the product page. The other printers in your range are the Photo 700, 1200 and 1200EX.

Another paper which I found to give accurate colour on a 1200 was Tetenal Spectra Jet High Gloss, (264gm/m), which is very glossy, but might be even harder to find than the Epson.

There are a number of firms who make Profiles at a moderate cost. Cathysprofiles com get a good name, but they are in USA, Google will get you a list for other locations. You really only need one Profile if you always use the same Ink and Paper in your Printer.

For a Colour Managed workflow have a look at our Camera Club site www.ayrphoto.co.uk go to Info pages then to How to Print for Accurate Colour.

For more on the theory have a look at www.computer-darkroom.com , That site can seem a bit technical, but they do have basic workflows.

Hope this helps

Roy

On Dec 6, 6:08 pm, "bernardlyall" wrote:

If anyone’s using an Epson Stylus Photo 1200, I’d be grateful to know what papers work well with it. I use Photoshop for mainly darkroom-type activity on b&w scanned negs, but different papers seem to have colour biases – there’s some Canon paper I’ve tried that came up rather brown, some other Epson stuff that comes up greenish – with genuine Epson ink or not, greyscaled images or rgb, different neg stock… all the same result.
All help much appreciated. Fairly new to this game.

Cheers,

Bernard

The 1200 is an 8+ year old printer, I have had 2 that both died, carriage mechanism developed a severe drag on both. Papers you want to look at are papers with swellable polymer base. The Ilford Classic series is one, the Epson paper recommendec for their 1400 printer is another. This printer had the same dye inks as the 1270 which caused a furor over chemical degradation 6or7 years ago. This is one printer I would recommend 3rd party inks for some of the 3rd party ink sellers also have profiles for their ink, printing from profiles is highly recommended, much easier than hunting for the proper paper settings. The paper that Epson recommended for this printer is long out of production, Epson changes paper structure quite often. Check Ilford they may have a profile for their paper, also call www.inkjetart.com as they may have profiles for their papers for this printer. Also do a head check, even with dye inks this printer would clog.
Good luck, you may need it.

Tom

"tomm42" wrote in message

On Dec 6, 6:08 pm, "bernardlyall" wrote:

If anyone’s using an Epson Stylus Photo 1200, I’d be grateful to know what
papers work well with it. I use Photoshop for mainly darkroom-type activity
on b&w scanned negs, but different papers seem to have colour biases – there’s some Canon paper I’ve tried that came up rather brown, some other Epson stuff that comes up greenish – with genuine Epson ink or not, greyscaled images or rgb, different neg stock… all the same result.
All help much appreciated. Fairly new to this game.

Cheers,

Bernard

The 1200 is an 8+ year old printer, I have had 2 that both died, carriage mechanism developed a severe drag on both. Papers you want to look at are papers with swellable polymer base. The Ilford Classic series is one, the Epson paper recommendec for their 1400 printer is another. This printer had the same dye inks as the 1270 which caused a furor over chemical degradation 6or7 years ago. This is one printer I would recommend 3rd party inks for some of the 3rd party ink sellers also have profiles for their ink, printing from profiles is highly recommended, much easier than hunting for the proper paper settings. The paper that Epson recommended for this printer is long out of production, Epson changes paper structure quite often. Check Ilford they may have a profile for their paper, also call www.inkjetart.com as they may have profiles for their papers for this printer. Also do a head check, even with dye inks this printer would clog.
Good luck, you may need it.

Tom

Hi.

The 1200 Printer was discontinued around 8 or 9 years ago. From my, (rapidly failing), memory it only used 3 colour ink.

It was superceded by the 1270, which was quickly superceded itself by the 1280 (1290). These are quite different machines, and they do install a set of Media Specific Profiles along with the Driver. Lots of 3rd Party sites also supply Profiles for these machines

No Profiles, other than the generic one seem to be available anywhere for the 1200, 1200EX or the smaller 700. So the OP will have to stick with the old, thin, fairly low gloss Epson Photo Paper, or have a Profile written for Premium Glossy.

I know, because very recently I have been asked to help a friend who uses a 1200 to get correct colours. Once she gets towards the end of her supply of that old Epson Paper, I have arranged to Calibrate and Profile it for Epson Premium Glossy.

Should the OP want, I will quite happily Email him a copy of the Profile, but it will not be as accurate as one written for his specific machine.

From my memory, (again), I don’t think they suffered near as much clogging as the 1270,1280 & 1290.

Roy G