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Tue, 11 December 2007 17:20 Go to next message
Penelope Baker (Photoshop begginer)
I'm sure this is easy and I'm a dunce...but... I am working on a logo and I
wish to use a hyphenated circle as an element of it. A circle with equal
and equidistant parts cut out around the entire circumference to let the
background show through.

Can anyone point me at a tutorial?

Thank you so much,
Pen
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Forgive quickly.
Love truly.
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Kiss slowly.
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Tue, 11 December 2007 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tacit[1] (Photoshop expert)
In article <475f0d42$0$5169$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm sure this is easy and I'm a dunce...but... I am working on a logo...

Wrong tool for the job.

What you're trying to do is a five-second pice of cake in Illustrator,
which is the right tool for logo design.

Logos designed in Illustrator are "vector" and can be used at any size,
billboard to postage stamp, with no loss of quality. Logos done in
Photoshop can't be resized without loss. Your job will be easier and
less frustrating if you use the right tool.

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Tue, 11 December 2007 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mesa (Advanced Photoshop user)
tacit wrote:

> In article <475f0d42$0$5169$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm sure this is easy and I'm a dunce...but... I am working on a logo...
>
>
> Wrong tool for the job.
>
> What you're trying to do is a five-second pice of cake in Illustrator,
> which is the right tool for logo design.
>
> Logos designed in Illustrator are "vector" and can be used at any size,
> billboard to postage stamp, with no loss of quality. Logos done in
> Photoshop can't be resized without loss. Your job will be easier and
> less frustrating if you use the right tool.
>

Yep I would have said that as well. I was using Flash to draw in, which
also makes vector images.
Wed, 12 December 2007 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Penelope Baker (Photoshop begginer)
"Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> wrote in message
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> tacit wrote:
>
>> In article <475f0d42$0$5169$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm sure this is easy and I'm a dunce...but... I am working on a logo...
>>
>>
>> Wrong tool for the job.
>>
>> What you're trying to do is a five-second pice of cake in Illustrator,
>> which is the right tool for logo design. Logos designed in Illustrator
>> are "vector" and can be used at any size, billboard to postage stamp,
>> with no loss of quality. Logos done in Photoshop can't be resized without
>> loss. Your job will be easier and less frustrating if you use the right
>> tool.
>>
>
> Yep I would have said that as well. I was using Flash to draw in, which
> also makes vector images.

It was just for a placeholder onna website.

I figured out a super simple way to do it in PS, and got what I needed done.
It's all good.

I do appreciate the time you took to answer my question, and I would have
appreciated instructions for either tool you've mentioned, since I was
apparently using the wrong one, but thank you for pointing out my error and
offering absolutely no help whatsoever! :P

Peace,
Pen
---
Life is short.
Break the rules.
Run towards your fears.
Forgive quickly.
Love truly.
Laugh uncontrollably.
Kiss slowly.
Above all, never regret anything that made you smile.
Wed, 12 December 2007 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joel (Photoshop expert)
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
> I figured out a super simple way to do it in PS, and got what I needed done.
> It's all good.

Would you be kind to share what simple way you have figured out? Thanks.
Wed, 12 December 2007 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Penelope Baker (Photoshop begginer)
"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> I figured out a super simple way to do it in PS, and got what I needed
>> done.
>> It's all good.
>
> Would you be kind to share what simple way you have figured out? Thanks.

Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all the
wrong things!!!

First I created my doc with a 5px wide circle, about 180 pixels in
width/height.

I have a 'lens flare' dingbat font, and specifically looked for one that had
evenly spaced 'arms', you know spiky glare protrusions from the center?

http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/fontco_flares.html - is the one I used.

I used the one on the bottom, 4th from left.

Sized and placed that over my circle to attain my desired circle 'break'
pattern, and knocked it out.

Poof, perfect broken circle. :-)

Took all of about 2 minutes once I figured out how to do it. :P

Peace,
Pen
Wed, 12 December 2007 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KatWoman (Photoshop expert)
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47601a2b$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:h600m3t08c8c66cg2cjqokuo7l4rs64sbl@4ax.com...
>> "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>> I figured out a super simple way to do it in PS, and got what I needed
>>> done.
>>> It's all good.
>>
>> Would you be kind to share what simple way you have figured out? Thanks.
>
> Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all the
> wrong things!!!
>
> First I created my doc with a 5px wide circle, about 180 pixels in
> width/height.
>
> I have a 'lens flare' dingbat font, and specifically looked for one that
> had evenly spaced 'arms', you know spiky glare protrusions from the
> center?
>
> http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/fontco_flares.html - is the one I
> used.
>
> I used the one on the bottom, 4th from left.
>
> Sized and placed that over my circle to attain my desired circle 'break'
> pattern, and knocked it out.
>
> Poof, perfect broken circle. :-)
>
> Took all of about 2 minutes once I figured out how to do it. :P
>
> Peace,
> Pen
>

interesting but unorthodox method

simpler method and can be done in PS
yes vectors blah blah many logos are just for internet and do not need
vector art
just to cover your ass work in hi res and decent size
resize art later for web

draw circle with marquee tool (oval, hold down shift)
path palette
at bottom
choose ""stroke selection""

you can set the brush tip shape to anything
for dashes choose the square tip brush
and change the spacing

brush tool is very versatile and many are uniformed of it's various options
I find path and channels palette are underused but powerful tools
Wed, 12 December 2007 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Penelope Baker (Photoshop begginer)
"KatWoman" <spamfree@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47601a2b$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:h600m3t08c8c66cg2cjqokuo7l4rs64sbl@4ax.com...
>>> "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>> I figured out a super simple way to do it in PS, and got what I needed
>>>> done.
>>>> It's all good.
>>>
>>> Would you be kind to share what simple way you have figured out? Thanks.
>>
>> Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all
>> the wrong things!!!
>>
>> First I created my doc with a 5px wide circle, about 180 pixels in
>> width/height.
>>
>> I have a 'lens flare' dingbat font, and specifically looked for one that
>> had evenly spaced 'arms', you know spiky glare protrusions from the
>> center?
>>
>> http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/fontco_flares.html - is the one I
>> used.
>>
>> I used the one on the bottom, 4th from left.
>>
>> Sized and placed that over my circle to attain my desired circle 'break'
>> pattern, and knocked it out.
>>
>> Poof, perfect broken circle. :-)
>>
>> Took all of about 2 minutes once I figured out how to do it. :P
>>
>> Peace,
>> Pen
>>
>
> interesting but unorthodox method

Yeah, well, that's me. :P

Thank you for the tips! Awesomeness!

Peace,
Pen
Wed, 12 December 2007 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OpinionMan (Photoshop begginer)
Penelope Baker wrote:

> Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all the
> wrong things!!!

You were only using the "wrong tool". Nothing more. Nothing less. Ever
try frying an egg on a grill?

Pull your panties out of their wad and take professional advice for
exactly what it is.

HTH.

Drew
Wed, 12 December 2007 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joel (Photoshop expert)
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:h600m3t08c8c66cg2cjqokuo7l4rs64sbl@4ax.com...
> > "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >> I figured out a super simple way to do it in PS, and got what I needed
> >> done.
> >> It's all good.
> >
> > Would you be kind to share what simple way you have figured out? Thanks.
>
> Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all the
> wrong things!!!
>
> First I created my doc with a 5px wide circle, about 180 pixels in
> width/height.
>
> I have a 'lens flare' dingbat font, and specifically looked for one that had
> evenly spaced 'arms', you know spiky glare protrusions from the center?
>
> http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/fontco_flares.html - is the one I used.
>
> I used the one on the bottom, 4th from left.
>
> Sized and placed that over my circle to attain my desired circle 'break'
> pattern, and knocked it out.
>
> Poof, perfect broken circle. :-)
>
> Took all of about 2 minutes once I figured out how to do it. :P

By re-reading the original message and the FONT I now can see what you try
to do, and the word "LOGO" can confuse other. Cuz when people read the word
"LOGO" they may think of professional logo with sharpest detail that
Photoshop isn't designed for it.

But it seems like you just need some very simple Logo for displaying, or
not professional Logo.

> Peace,
> Pen
Wed, 12 December 2007 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Penelope Baker (Photoshop begginer)
"Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Penelope Baker wrote:
>
>> Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all
>> the wrong things!!!
>
> You were only using the "wrong tool". Nothing more. Nothing less. Ever try
> frying an egg on a grill?
>
> Pull your panties out of their wad and take professional advice for
> exactly what it is.

I would think that people who don't get a little tongue-in-cheek good
natured jibing are the one's who've got a panty-problem....but maybe that's
just me.

The gist of my point was that neither of the posters I was gently poking
actually offered any real solution to my problem, just displayed their
'prowess' and wandered off into the sunset.

'Son, your horse appears to be foundering.' *clop clop clop* 'Gee thanks
Mr. Professional Cowboy, I never would have survived without your sage
council!' Um...no. :P

Last visit to the group though before I unsub again -- A most sincere and
heartfelt thanks to those who have actually offered solutions or guidance
rather than dick-waving. You all rock. Immensely.

Happy holidays all!

Peace,
Pen
Wed, 12 December 2007 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KatWoman (Photoshop expert)
"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:h600m3t08c8c66cg2cjqokuo7l4rs64sbl@4ax.com...
>> > "Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >> I figured out a super simple way to do it in PS, and got what I needed
>> >> done.
>> >> It's all good.
>> >
>> > Would you be kind to share what simple way you have figured out?
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all
>> the
>> wrong things!!!
>>
>> First I created my doc with a 5px wide circle, about 180 pixels in
>> width/height.
>>
>> I have a 'lens flare' dingbat font, and specifically looked for one that
>> had
>> evenly spaced 'arms', you know spiky glare protrusions from the center?
>>
>> http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/fontco_flares.html - is the one I
>> used.
>>
>> I used the one on the bottom, 4th from left.
>>
>> Sized and placed that over my circle to attain my desired circle 'break'
>> pattern, and knocked it out.
>>
>> Poof, perfect broken circle. :-)
>>
>> Took all of about 2 minutes once I figured out how to do it. :P
>
> By re-reading the original message and the FONT I now can see what you try
> to do, and the word "LOGO" can confuse other. Cuz when people read the
> word
> "LOGO" they may think of professional logo with sharpest detail that
> Photoshop isn't designed for it.
>
> But it seems like you just need some very simple Logo for displaying, or
> not professional Logo.
>
>> Peace,
>> Pen



if you want an argument ask a man
if you want to get the job done ask a woman

don't let those dick wavers mess with ya Penny
you asked a very simple question in a HUMBLE way
that I know at least one of them knew the answer to

and instead tried to lecture you on what program makes better logos
not the question you asked
Then generously shared your novel solution with them and still they respond
poorly
You are the kind of poster we need more of, temperate and polite and civil,
literate and obviously capable of figuring out stuff yourself

and you rude assholes scare people like her away
Thu, 13 December 2007 09:45 Go to previous message
Joel (Photoshop expert)
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47606889$0$28817$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Penelope Baker wrote:
> >
> >> Sure! I didn't think anyone would want it considering I was doing all
> >> the wrong things!!!
> >
> > You were only using the "wrong tool". Nothing more. Nothing less. Ever try
> > frying an egg on a grill?
> >
> > Pull your panties out of their wad and take professional advice for
> > exactly what it is.
>
> I would think that people who don't get a little tongue-in-cheek good
> natured jibing are the one's who've got a panty-problem....but maybe that's
> just me.

It's sad, but if you are talking about real LOGO for professional use then
they are right that Photoshop (bitmap program) isn't the right tool for the
job. And you will need vector program for LOGO.

- Vector, you can zoom in thousands of times and it will remain sharpness

- Bitmap, it will lose sharpness and start showing block at 200-300% etc..
(more/less depending on the original)

> The gist of my point was that neither of the posters I was gently poking
> actually offered any real solution to my problem, just displayed their
> 'prowess' and wandered off into the sunset.
>
> 'Son, your horse appears to be foundering.' *clop clop clop* 'Gee thanks
> Mr. Professional Cowboy, I never would have survived without your sage
> council!' Um...no. :P
>
> Last visit to the group though before I unsub again -- A most sincere and
> heartfelt thanks to those who have actually offered solutions or guidance
> rather than dick-waving. You all rock. Immensely.
>
> Happy holidays all!
>
> Peace,
> Pen
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