What printer do you use for Photo Quality??

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Jan 5, 2008
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My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

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Hergy
Jan 5, 2008
if you can get hold of a canon pixma ip8500 buy it.

you won’t regret it

Hergy

"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.
What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood
JM
Jim Mitchell
Jan 5, 2008
Ihave both an Hp 7660 and an epsonR300 and both are 6 cartidge printers although there are only 2 slots on the hp- the cartriges hold 3 inks each.
HP have 75 lb paper which with the 57 and 58 cartridges I use give me a 76 year life on the prints- something aI value quite highly

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:57:00 GMT, "Not4wood"
wrote:

My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.
What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??
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a
Jan 5, 2008
"Jim Mitchell" wrote in message
HP have 75 lb paper which with the 57 and 58 cartridges I use give me a 76 year life on the prints- something aI value quite highly

Pity you won’t be around in another 76 years to see if it’s true. 🙂
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Not4wood
Jan 5, 2008
I just got off the phone with a friend who had purchased a Multi-All In One printer about 6 months ago and offered my her HP 5740 Ink Jet that has been sitting there doing nothing for a small fee.

I just looked at it on the net and I can buy Photo Quality Inks for it if there still available. It is Photo Quality, looks like it can take the heavier art paper and can print borderless up to 8.5X24. I have no idea about the 24 paper LOL but it looks good so far.

Not4wood

"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.
What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood
TC
twisty creek
Jan 5, 2008
<a> wrote in message
"Jim Mitchell" wrote in message

HP have 75 lb paper which with the 57 and 58 cartridges I use give me a 76 year life on the prints- something aI value quite highly

Pity you won’t be around in another 76 years to see if it’s true. 🙂

HP won’t be either around either!! I hate everything HP. I stay away from ther exploitive and manuplitive marketing tactic. Here we have another sucker to their bullshit marketing strategy…

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KatWoman
Jan 6, 2008
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.
What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography

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Scubabix
Jan 6, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality. Rob
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Waterspider
Jan 6, 2008
"Scubabix" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality. Rob
I’ve got the 9000 too, and am totally happy with it. I’ve recently been printing on canvas (a good test for any printer because of the texture) and the results are superb. I don’t really know if I’m a sucker for paying too much, or if I’m getting better colour because of it, but I always use Canon inks.
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Not4wood
Jan 6, 2008
I’ve been starting to see some problems that people are having with the Canon larger printers. One comment had a color band across the page and the Canon techie couldn’t figure it out. The other one was a blotchy heavy blue ink in one spot of the print and the techie couldn’t figure this out either. Only two complaints, and I’ve always used Canon Printers ever since my old impact Panasonic days. LOL

Katwoman; Funny that you should mention the Epson, but I was just looking at the Stylus R1400 and R1800. The R1800 looks like its a lot better quality and can also handle B&W with a Grey Ink Cartridge. I also do like the Roll Paper option, its a lot cheaper. How long do you have it, and have you had any problems with this Epson? I’ve never had an Epson Printer before, and it looks like it has very good quality for the price as well as being very fast. A lot faster then I’m used to with the Canon products.

This old HP DeskJet that I now have is so fast its worth keeping just for text documents. My wife is a teacher and she does need to print things on occasion as well as my playing around.

Mark G
Not4wood

"Waterspider" wrote in message
"Scubabix" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??

Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality. Rob
I’ve got the 9000 too, and am totally happy with it. I’ve recently been printing on canvas (a good test for any printer because of the texture) and the results are superb. I don’t really know if I’m a sucker for paying too much, or if I’m getting better colour because of it, but I always use Canon inks.
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jaSPAMc
Jan 6, 2008
"Waterspider" found these unused words:

"Scubabix" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality. Rob
I’ve got the 9000 too, and am totally happy with it. I’ve recently been printing on canvas (a good test for any printer because of the texture) and the results are superb. I don’t really know if I’m a sucker for paying too much, or if I’m getting better colour because of it, but I always use Canon inks.
OK for quickies or approvals. My ‘finished’ photos are Walmart pinted on -=real=- photgraphic process. I worked out, that with inks, printer and paper (including 10% ‘bad’ prints) getting real photographs was about $0.30 more in the 8×10 or 8×12 sizes.

Small prints are cheaper by a long shot!
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Waterspider
Jan 6, 2008
"Sir F. A. Rien" wrote in message
"Waterspider" found these unused words:

"Scubabix" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the
same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like
Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for
another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality.
Rob
I’ve got the 9000 too, and am totally happy with it. I’ve recently been printing on canvas (a good test for any printer because of the texture) and
the results are superb. I don’t really know if I’m a sucker for paying too much, or if I’m getting better colour because of it, but I always use Canon
inks.
OK for quickies or approvals. My ‘finished’ photos are Walmart pinted on -=real=- photgraphic process. I worked out, that with inks, printer and paper (including 10% ‘bad’ prints) getting real photographs was about $0.30
more in the 8×10 or 8×12 sizes.
Small prints are cheaper by a long shot!
You have a Walmart? How so very cosmopolitan.
Here in the wilds of British Columbia, I’m stuck with mailorder so I don’t do anything over 11×17 and yes, on standard sizes, home-printing is more expensive but time is money. At the London Drugs down the road, an 11×17 canvas print is $60 (I’ve not had the courage to get quotes on larger sizes) and that would involve writing off half a day. I also question the quality of their paper and inks.
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Joel
Jan 6, 2008
"Waterspider" wrote:

<snip>
You have a Walmart? How so very cosmopolitan.
Here in the wilds of British Columbia, I’m stuck with mailorder so I don’t do anything over 11×17 and yes, on standard sizes, home-printing is more expensive but time is money. At the London Drugs down the road, an 11×17 canvas print is $60 (I’ve not had the courage to get quotes on larger sizes) and that would involve writing off half a day. I also question the quality of their paper and inks.

It is either you don’t do shopping or because digital isn’t as popular as it’s here in USA, because with $60 (especially UK$) you can have a thick stack of 11×17" print (not on canvas but regular phjoto paper). Or you may be looking at 20×30" print for around 20 US$ (or probably less by now or some place?).

I don’t often print larger than 8×10" or 8×12", but sometime I can get 8×10" print for less than 2US$ (around $1.40 – $1.50?).
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KatWoman
Jan 6, 2008
"Not4wood" wrote in message
I’ve been starting to see some problems that people are having with the Canon larger printers. One comment had a color band across the page and the Canon techie couldn’t figure it out. The other one was a blotchy heavy blue ink in one spot of the print and the techie couldn’t figure this out either. Only two complaints, and I’ve always used Canon Printers ever since my old impact Panasonic days. LOL

Katwoman; Funny that you should mention the Epson, but I was just looking at the Stylus R1400 and R1800. The R1800 looks like its a lot better quality and can also handle B&W with a Grey Ink Cartridge. I also do like the Roll Paper option, its a lot cheaper. How long do you have it, and have you had any problems with this Epson? I’ve never had an Epson Printer before, and it looks like it has very good quality for the price as well as being very fast. A lot faster then I’m used to with the Canon products.

This old HP DeskJet that I now have is so fast its worth keeping just for text documents. My wife is a teacher and she does need to print things on occasion as well as my playing around.

Mark G
Not4wood

"Waterspider" wrote in message
"Scubabix" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.
I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??
What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??

Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality.
Rob
I’ve got the 9000 too, and am totally happy with it. I’ve recently been printing on canvas (a good test for any printer because of the texture) and the results are superb. I don’t really know if I’m a sucker for paying too much, or if I’m getting better colour because of it, but I always use Canon inks.

I have only used EPSON
so really have no comparison
but my recent one died due to a bad switch or some electric short (under warranty less than 5 months)
just would not power on
they replaced via FedEx very fast (3 days)
customer service is decent

I love the prints from it
I am used to the interfaces
never got good results from PS drivers
and used Epson drivers on defaults and get good matches to comp screen the software shows the ink levels so you know when it will run out

this model is not the one for BW I am told the 2400 I think has more BW options on ink choices
FWIW when I print BW I use full color settings, the blacks seem warmer less bluish purple

but I have made very decent BW prints using it
before I had a 1270 that made decent bw too
it died-never a problem had it 5 years
my first printer was Epson and it died from cat hair clogs before I knew to cover it when not in use (recommend this)
there was a local repair exchange and b/c I purchased it on AMEX it had extra time warranty
that model was not repairable and they gave me a newer upgraded model instead

inks are not cheap>>> so just charge a lot for a print! I found a good source for Epson brand at a discount here www.atlex.com

I considered Canon as well b/c we use their cameras
and I like the brand, it’s for photos etc
I decided by reading reviews and looking at the features I wanted
K
KatWoman
Jan 6, 2008
"Sir F. A. Rien" wrote in message
"Waterspider" found these unused words:

"Scubabix" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the
same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like
Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for
another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality.
Rob
I’ve got the 9000 too, and am totally happy with it. I’ve recently been printing on canvas (a good test for any printer because of the texture) and
the results are superb. I don’t really know if I’m a sucker for paying too much, or if I’m getting better colour because of it, but I always use Canon
inks.
OK for quickies or approvals. My ‘finished’ photos are Walmart pinted on -=real=- photgraphic process. I worked out, that with inks, printer and paper (including 10% ‘bad’ prints) getting real photographs was about $0.30
more in the 8×10 or 8×12 sizes.

Small prints are cheaper by a long shot!

I fnd Walgreen’s (snapfish) paper is decent but not a custom print a machine reads your colors
cheap yes
good? not necessarily
I prefer to have control on a final display or portfolio print and do not mind making 2-3 tries to get a great image

for very large format
I live in a big city
not a proiblem to find
custom labs for pros that make huge prints
in all type of quality
giclee, canvas, color matched proofed etc
and on the net so many services for that

for OK not perfect or exact colors family snaps proof prints KINKO, Publix, Eckred’s and Wagtreens is fine
and as RON pointed out>>>>>way cheaper
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Waterspider
Jan 6, 2008
"Joel" wrote in message
"Waterspider" wrote:

<snip>
You have a Walmart? How so very cosmopolitan.
Here in the wilds of British Columbia, I’m stuck with mailorder so I don’t
do anything over 11×17 and yes, on standard sizes, home-printing is more expensive but time is money. At the London Drugs down the road, an 11×17 canvas print is $60 (I’ve not had the courage to get quotes on larger sizes)
and that would involve writing off half a day. I also question the quality
of their paper and inks.

It is either you don’t do shopping

Yes, I do shopping. However, I live in a rural area and haven’t got easy access to professional labs and big-box chain stores with high-volume, inhouse labs.

or because digital isn’t as popular as
it’s here in USA,

Yes, digital is as popular here as in the US.

because with $60 (especially UK$)

I meant $60 Cdn; we have our own currency in Canada.

you can have a thick
stack of 11×17" print (not on canvas but regular phjoto paper).

Yes, but I was talking about canvas.

Or you may
be looking at 20×30" print for around 20 US$ (or probably less by now or some place?).

No, I meant an 11×17 canvas print.
I don’t often print larger than 8×10" or 8×12", but sometime I can get 8×10" print for less than 2US$ (around $1.40 – $1.50?).

It’s about the same price here.
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Waterspider
Jan 6, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote in message
<snip>
I fnd Walgreen’s (snapfish) paper is decent but not a custom print a machine reads your colors
cheap yes
good? not necessarily
I prefer to have control on a final display or portfolio print and do not mind making 2-3 tries to get a great image
Thanks, KatWoman, this answers my question about quality of paper and inks at, most likely, my "local" London Drugs photo dept. Another thing I like about doing my own printing is the freedom to do it at 3 a.m.
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Waterspider
Jan 6, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote in message
<snip>
prints
in all type of quality
giclee…

I still don’t have a handle on giclee. Going back a century or so when I was in college, it meant an accurate reproduction of an original piece of art,
i.e. a painting, done with the highest quality technology of the day. Now a
photograph, whether it be from a negative or a digital file, does not have an original from which to reproduce copies; every photograph or print, is a copy, so I’m wondering how to define "giclee" (in my own drug-addled brain) to apply it to printing photographs without totally destroying its original meaning.
K
KatWoman
Jan 6, 2008
"Waterspider" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
<snip>
prints
in all type of quality
giclee…

I still don’t have a handle on giclee. Going back a century or so when I was in college, it meant an accurate reproduction of an original piece of art, i.e. a painting, done with the highest quality technology of the day. Now a photograph, whether it be from a negative or a digital file, does not have an original from which to reproduce copies; every photograph or print, is a copy, so I’m wondering how to define "giclee" (in my own drug-addled brain) to apply it to printing photographs without totally destroying its original meaning.

I forgot to say the newer printer is WAY faster
and so quiet!!!!

giclee now I think refers to a quality hand matched print on real nice paper you can get them painted over with a clear medium that simulates paint

have not tried any so I am not the one to answer it
TC
tony cooper
Jan 6, 2008
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:51:01 -0500, "KatWoman" wrote:

for OK not perfect or exact colors family snaps proof prints KINKO, Publix, Eckred’s and Wagtreens is fine
and as RON pointed out>>>>>way cheaper
There are times when cheap and quick is good. I just made up a photo album of 4" x 6" prints of 64 pictures taken in 2007 of my family, including a 3 and a 4-year old grandson, and sent them to my brother in Europe.

I ordered them online through Walgreens (Snapfish), picked them up the next morning, and paid 10 cents a print on a special. $6.40 for the pix, $4.95 for the album, and $13.60 postage.



Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida
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Joel
Jan 6, 2008
"Waterspider" wrote:

"Joel" wrote in message
"Waterspider" wrote:

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You have a Walmart? How so very cosmopolitan.
Here in the wilds of British Columbia, I’m stuck with mailorder so I don’t
do anything over 11×17 and yes, on standard sizes, home-printing is more expensive but time is money. At the London Drugs down the road, an 11×17 canvas print is $60 (I’ve not had the courage to get quotes on larger sizes)
and that would involve writing off half a day. I also question the quality
of their paper and inks.

It is either you don’t do shopping

Yes, I do shopping. However, I live in a rural area and haven’t got easy access to professional labs and big-box chain stores with high-volume, inhouse labs.

or because digital isn’t as popular as
it’s here in USA,

Yes, digital is as popular here as in the US.

because with $60 (especially UK$)

I meant $60 Cdn; we have our own currency in Canada.

Argg since I saw you mentioned LONDON and I thought you are in UK.
J
jaSPAMc
Jan 7, 2008
"KatWoman" found these unused words:

"Sir F. A. Rien" wrote in message
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"Scubabix" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Not4wood" wrote in message
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the
same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like
Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for
another printer what would you get for photo quality??


Thanks in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood

EPSON 1800>> I need the size up to 13×19
use a printer designed for photos
like stylus series

lot of ink colors
EPSON has good SOFTWARE aka drivers profiles etc
for photography
Canon Pixma Pro9000, 8 ink tanks with up to 13X19 and I love the quality.
Rob
I’ve got the 9000 too, and am totally happy with it. I’ve recently been printing on canvas (a good test for any printer because of the texture) and
the results are superb. I don’t really know if I’m a sucker for paying too much, or if I’m getting better colour because of it, but I always use Canon
inks.
OK for quickies or approvals. My ‘finished’ photos are Walmart pinted on -=real=- photgraphic process. I worked out, that with inks, printer and paper (including 10% ‘bad’ prints) getting real photographs was about $0.30
more in the 8×10 or 8×12 sizes.

Small prints are cheaper by a long shot!

I fnd Walgreen’s (snapfish) paper is decent but not a custom print a machine reads your colors
cheap yes
good? not necessarily
I prefer to have control on a final display or portfolio print and do not mind making 2-3 tries to get a great image
If you take the time and make an effort to examine a couple ‘test’ prints, then you can adjust your system to obtain quality results … PROVIDING you also turn OFF the "auto-correction" on the kiosk!

The prints I get now = my monitor’ display.
E
eclipse9876543210
Jan 7, 2008
Not4wood wrote:
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.
What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??

My HP B9180 does a very good job both with colour and B&W. A3+ is really nice and there are lots of papers to choose from. ICC profiles are loadable.
N
Not4wood
Jan 8, 2008
Yeah, but the HP9180 is very expensive. This is the one they recommend over at the Nikonian site.

KatWoman and anybody else that has the Epson 1400,

A have a few questions to try and help me make my decision: Have you used it with the ICC profile downloads?
Have you used the heavier art papers, and or does it take the heavier papers?
In your manual, what is the heaviest paper that it can take? I couldn’t find this in the specs on the net.

I have a box of Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl sitting here and its rated as 290gsm, can your printer do this slightly heavier paper and also do you have a separate paper feed for the heavier papers? I’ve read on the net that some of the heavier papers can be fed straight thru the back for a straight feed. It doesn’t include the heavier art papers on the specs on the net?

Thanks for everything. I am now trying to make my decision on whether to get the 1400 or the 1800. I am leaning toward the 1400 since its less and I really wont be making that many B&W but it looks like the 1400 can cover that aspect anyway. What I think is strange is the R800 looks and has almost the exact same features as the 1800 but just not larger results then
8.5X11. The 800 and 1800 are the same price so why would anybody buy the
800??

If I were to go for the R800, for the exact same price I would get the larger model especially since they use the same high quality inks.

Thank you everybody for all your information.

Mark G
Not4wood

"Thommy M." wrote in message
Not4wood wrote:
My Canon Photo Quality printer bit the dust and I’m in the market for another Photo Quality Printer. I’ve seen the HP, Epson and Canon current line and I’m very disappointed on whats available. They all look cheaply made out of thin plastic, some have only 2 ink cartridges and they all advertise very fast printing. I even saw the 13X23 large printers by HP and the cheaper of the two I believe the 9800 only had two ink cartridges.

What do you use for Quality prints?? My old Canon IP6700D had great quality and 6 ink cartridges. I would hopefully like to get either the same high quality or better. The very high quality HP 13X23 with the six or eight cartridges is way out of my price range.

I don’t care if its not the fastest on the block, I want very high quality at least 8.5X11 and able to take the higher quality papers as well. Be able to except the ICC profiles from other manufacturers like Ilford and others. I know that Elements and CS2 and 3 are the ones who actually are working with the ICC Profiles but if Ilford doesn’t make the profile for the printer then why bother??

What do you use, are you happy with it and if you were in the market for another printer what would you get for photo quality??

My HP B9180 does a very good job both with colour and B&W. A3+ is really nice and there are lots of papers to choose from. ICC profiles are loadable.
GZ
Guido Zijlstra
Jan 8, 2008
Hi,

I have a Epson 1400 and also use the Iford papers (with the profiles from ilford i get good results, although still a tad darker then on screen but that has allways been the case with Epson printers and profiles i think).

The thicker Smooth Pearl paper and other 290gsm papers feed using the normal feeder without issues.

Have fun,
Guido

"Not4wood" schreef in bericht
I have a box of Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl sitting here and its rated as 290gsm, can your printer do this slightly heavier paper and also do you have a separate paper feed for the heavier papers? I’ve read on the net that some of the heavier papers can be fed straight thru the back for a straight feed. It doesn’t include the heavier art papers on the specs on the net?
B
Boskey
Jan 8, 2008
"Guido Zijlstra" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a Epson 1400 and also use the Iford papers (with the profiles from ilford i get good results, although still a tad darker then on screen but that has allways been the case with Epson printers and profiles i think).
The thicker Smooth Pearl paper and other 290gsm papers feed using the normal feeder without issues.

Have fun,
Guido

Guido, what color temp for your monitor calibration? Below is from the readme 1st.pdf that comes with the Ilford profiles. If you are view at temps other than 5000K, then you should see some noticeable some variation.

FOR OPTIMUM PRINTING RESULTS CONDITIONS AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THOSE USED TO CREATE THE PROFILES ARE NEEDED

. Room temperature 20-25
N
Not4wood
Jan 8, 2008
Guido,

I first saw Boskey’s post, but I was going to ask you if your Monitor is Calibrated? Bosky is correct, but I think thats taking it a wee bit much about humidity and temperature while your at your puter, but this is exactly what the manufacturers’ recommend for optimal quality.

Thanks, Guido thats the first time I had heard about the 1400 using the higher quality papers. This makes me one notch more to the 1400 then the more expensive 1800. Also, since the R800 is so highly rated and takes the same higher quality inks as the 1800 besides paper size what else is the difference between the two printers? There the same price, so why would anybody buy the 800 if for the same price and quality you can pick up the 1800 13×19 printer instead of the R800 8.5×11 printer??? The 1800 printer is able to take rolls of paper and so does the 800!!! Doesn’t make sense to me…

Not4wood

"Guido Zijlstra" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a Epson 1400 and also use the Iford papers (with the profiles from ilford i get good results, although still a tad darker then on screen but that has allways been the case with Epson printers and profiles i think).
The thicker Smooth Pearl paper and other 290gsm papers feed using the normal feeder without issues.

Have fun,
Guido

"Not4wood" schreef in bericht
I have a box of Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl sitting here and its rated as 290gsm, can your printer do this slightly heavier paper and also do you have a separate paper feed for the heavier papers? I’ve read on the net that some of the heavier papers can be fed straight thru the back for a straight feed. It doesn’t include the heavier art papers on the specs on the net?

GZ
Guido Zijlstra
Jan 9, 2008
I have calibrated my screen with the Colorvision Spyder2, 6500K, 2.2 gamma. I will give the suggestion below a try, although it makes the screen rather yellow.
It might just be down to the fact that the monitor is transmitting light and the paper reflecting it as the colors are fine, just a tad darker. I usually fix it with a ‘print adjustment’ layer on the image to crank it up just before printing.

Tnx.
"Boskey" schreef in bericht
"Guido Zijlstra" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a Epson 1400 and also use the Iford papers (with the profiles from ilford i get good results, although still a tad darker then on screen but that has allways been the case with Epson printers and profiles i think).
The thicker Smooth Pearl paper and other 290gsm papers feed using the normal feeder without issues.

Have fun,
Guido

Guido, what color temp for your monitor calibration? Below is from the readme 1st.pdf that comes with the Ilford profiles. If you are view at temps other than 5000K, then you should see some noticeable some variation.

FOR OPTIMUM PRINTING RESULTS CONDITIONS AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THOSE USED TO CREATE THE PROFILES ARE NEEDED

. Room temperature 20-25
GZ
Guido Zijlstra
Jan 9, 2008
Yup, monitor is calibrated using the Spyder2.

I already own this 1400 for a while, but if i would have to choose now between a 1400 and a 1800 i would go towards the 1800, as that has the new ultra-something pigment inks.
The 1400 uses dye-inks. The 1800 (and also the 2400) with the pigment inks are more suited if you want to use high-end ‘fine art’ papers because of the pigment ink.
And also because of the rolls (1400 does not do rolls). Also, looking at the other high-end paper manufacturers you are more likely to find R1800 profiles, the 1400 is not seen as a ‘professional’ printer.

And indeed, for the price difference, i would not go for the R800 if i was trying to make nice photo prints for display etc. Unfortunately the price difference between a R1800 and R2400 is just a bit to much to justify a R2400, but if i had to replace my 1400 i would make the choise between the 1800 and the 2400.

Tnx.

"Not4wood" schreef in bericht
Guido,

I first saw Boskey’s post, but I was going to ask you if your Monitor is Calibrated? Bosky is correct, but I think thats taking it a wee bit much about humidity and temperature while your at your puter, but this is exactly what the manufacturers’ recommend for optimal quality.
Thanks, Guido thats the first time I had heard about the 1400 using the higher quality papers. This makes me one notch more to the 1400 then the more expensive 1800. Also, since the R800 is so highly rated and takes the same higher quality inks as the 1800 besides paper size what else is the difference between the two printers? There the same price, so why would anybody buy the 800 if for the same price and quality you can pick up the 1800 13×19 printer instead of the R800 8.5×11 printer??? The 1800 printer is able to take rolls of paper and so does the 800!!! Doesn’t make sense to me…

Not4wood

"Guido Zijlstra" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a Epson 1400 and also use the Iford papers (with the profiles from ilford i get good results, although still a tad darker then on screen but that has allways been the case with Epson printers and profiles i think).
The thicker Smooth Pearl paper and other 290gsm papers feed using the normal feeder without issues.

Have fun,
Guido

"Not4wood" schreef in bericht
I have a box of Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl sitting here and its rated as 290gsm, can your printer do this slightly heavier paper and also do you have a separate paper feed for the heavier papers? I’ve read on the net that some of the heavier papers can be fed straight thru the back for a straight feed. It doesn’t include the heavier art papers on the specs on the net?

P
Peter
Jan 23, 2008
"Guido Zijlstra" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a Epson 1400 and also use the Iford papers (with the profiles from ilford i get good results, although still a tad darker then on screen but that has allways been the case with Epson printers and profiles i think).

AFAIK LCD screens show about 1 f stop brighter than the print. Just before printing I add an exposure layer and make the adjustment there.


Peter

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