How can I remove all white pixels?

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

On Jan 13, 8:06 am, ""
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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

On Jan 13, 8:06 am, ""
wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Yes, this is quite simple, bt the key isn’t in the use of the magic wand as you might expect.
First open your image in photoshop.
Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option. Now when the colour range window opens, click on a white area in your image, and you’ll see a small scale monochrome thumbnail preview giving you an idea of the selection.
Click okay, and you’ll find that in your image, all the white pixels in your image have now been selected.
Hope that helps.

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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Yes, this is quite simple, bt the key isn’t in the use of the magic wand as you might expect.
First open your image in photoshop.
Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option. Now when the colour range window opens, click on a white area in your image, and you’ll see a small scale monochrome thumbnail preview giving you an idea of the selection.
Click okay, and you’ll find that in your image, all the white pixels in your image have now been selected.
Hope that helps.

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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Yes, this is quite simple, bt the key isn’t in the use of the magic wand as you might expect.
First open your image in photoshop.
Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option. Now when the colour range window opens, click on a white area in your image, and you’ll see a small scale monochrome thumbnail preview giving you an idea of the selection.
Click okay, and you’ll find that in your image, all the white pixels in your image have now been selected.
Hope that helps.

"Fat Sam" wrote:

Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option.

Scott W wrote:

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

"Fat Sam" wrote:

Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option.

Scott W wrote:

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

I use photoshop 6, I use the Remove Background button (hidden in the eraser dropdown). I first resize the brush so big it covers everything, then I just click on the color I want removed. You will have to do some tweaking to get it to remove all the colors continously (1st: noncontinuous, then other set to continuous). Not the exact answer, but this is what I basically do to remove colors…

http://www.fototrix.com (mashup your photos online, add special effects, frames and fun templates)
http://www.txt2pic.com

I use photoshop 6, I use the Remove Background button (hidden in the eraser dropdown). I first resize the brush so big it covers everything, then I just click on the color I want removed. You will have to do some tweaking to get it to remove all the colors continously (1st: noncontinuous, then other set to continuous). Not the exact answer, but this is what I basically do to remove colors…

http://www.fototrix.com (mashup your photos online, add special effects, frames and fun templates)
http://www.txt2pic.com

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"Fat Sam" wrote:

Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option.

Scott W wrote:

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

Aaah. I’m working from CS2….Sorry.
I’m not sure what tools you have avaliable in version 5 to be honest. I did have it on my system running alongside CS2, but I got rid of it a few weeks ago.

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"Fat Sam" wrote:

Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option.

Scott W wrote:

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

Aaah. I’m working from CS2….Sorry.
I’m not sure what tools you have avaliable in version 5 to be honest. I did have it on my system running alongside CS2, but I got rid of it a few weeks ago.

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"Fat Sam" wrote:

Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option.

Scott W wrote:

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

Aaah. I’m working from CS2….Sorry.
I’m not sure what tools you have avaliable in version 5 to be honest. I did have it on my system running alongside CS2, but I got rid of it a few weeks ago.

On Jan 13, 12:06 pm, ""
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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Hi,
One possibility is to:
Create a new layer of white with as much white as you want to remove. For example, rgb=252,252,252 to get ride of the top three. Place this layer above the image you want the white removed from and set the blend mode to difference. The do ctrl+alt+shft+e to make a stamp of that image. The use that stamp as a mask for the image.

Good luck,
Ron

On Jan 13, 12:06 pm, ""
wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Hi,
One possibility is to:
Create a new layer of white with as much white as you want to remove. For example, rgb=252,252,252 to get ride of the top three. Place this layer above the image you want the white removed from and set the blend mode to difference. The do ctrl+alt+shft+e to make a stamp of that image. The use that stamp as a mask for the image.

Good luck,
Ron

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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Here’s one way to select all the white pixels in Photoshop 5 LE. First copy the image to the clipboard, then go into QuickMask mode, and paste the image to the mask.

Use levels to set everything below 255 to zero, and everything above it to 255. Because of the way Levels is implemented, you will need to do two repetitions of this in order to get absolutely every white pixel. Switch from QuickMask back to normal mode, and pure white pixels will be selected. You may use your favorite method is to get rid of them.

More than likely there are easier and better ways to do what you are trying to do. Full Photoshop has the dust and scratches filter that will do this quickly and easily. Polaroid supplies an excellent plugin and stand alone utility that does this, and it’s free:
http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/poladsr/poladsr.htm l

Both of these filters use what is called an "Impulse Filter", which removes noise from an image by replacing the noise with averaged values from nearby pixels. When using these filters, I find myself using the lasso tool to select dust specks from the shadows, followed by a dose of dust and scratches. This avoids degradation of detail in the lighter areas of the image. If this is what you want to do, Polaroid’s Dust and Scratches could save some work.
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Mike Russell – www.curvemeister.com

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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Here’s one way to select all the white pixels in Photoshop 5 LE. First copy the image to the clipboard, then go into QuickMask mode, and paste the image to the mask.

Use levels to set everything below 255 to zero, and everything above it to 255. Because of the way Levels is implemented, you will need to do two repetitions of this in order to get absolutely every white pixel. Switch from QuickMask back to normal mode, and pure white pixels will be selected. You may use your favorite method is to get rid of them.

More than likely there are easier and better ways to do what you are trying to do. Full Photoshop has the dust and scratches filter that will do this quickly and easily. Polaroid supplies an excellent plugin and stand alone utility that does this, and it’s free:
http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/poladsr/poladsr.htm l

Both of these filters use what is called an "Impulse Filter", which removes noise from an image by replacing the noise with averaged values from nearby pixels. When using these filters, I find myself using the lasso tool to select dust specks from the shadows, followed by a dose of dust and scratches. This avoids degradation of detail in the lighter areas of the image. If this is what you want to do, Polaroid’s Dust and Scratches could save some work.
—
Mike Russell – www.curvemeister.com

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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Here’s one way to select all the white pixels in Photoshop 5 LE. First copy the image to the clipboard, then go into QuickMask mode, and paste the image to the mask.

Use levels to set everything below 255 to zero, and everything above it to 255. Because of the way Levels is implemented, you will need to do two repetitions of this in order to get absolutely every white pixel. Switch from QuickMask back to normal mode, and pure white pixels will be selected. You may use your favorite method is to get rid of them.

More than likely there are easier and better ways to do what you are trying to do. Full Photoshop has the dust and scratches filter that will do this quickly and easily. Polaroid supplies an excellent plugin and stand alone utility that does this, and it’s free:
http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/poladsr/poladsr.htm l

Both of these filters use what is called an "Impulse Filter", which removes noise from an image by replacing the noise with averaged values from nearby pixels. When using these filters, I find myself using the lasso tool to select dust specks from the shadows, followed by a dose of dust and scratches. This avoids degradation of detail in the lighter areas of the image. If this is what you want to do, Polaroid’s Dust and Scratches could save some work.
—
Mike Russell – www.curvemeister.com

On Jan 13, 12:06 pm, ""
wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Turn off your monitor? ;>)

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YOP…

On Jan 13, 12:06 pm, ""
wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

Turn off your monitor? ;>)

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YOP…

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

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I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

You’ve had some good methods suggested. Like most things PhotoShop, there are many ways to do most things. Here’s how I would do it.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

All white areas should be selected.

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Bob in Central California

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"" wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

You’ve had some good methods suggested. Like most things PhotoShop, there are many ways to do most things. Here’s how I would do it.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

All white areas should be selected.

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

In article
,
"" wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

You’ve had some good methods suggested. Like most things PhotoShop, there are many ways to do most things. Here’s how I would do it.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

All white areas should be selected.

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

In article
,
"" wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

You’ve had some good methods suggested. Like most things PhotoShop, there are many ways to do most things. Here’s how I would do it.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

All white areas should be selected. Now what are you going to do?

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

In article
,
"" wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

You’ve had some good methods suggested. Like most things PhotoShop, there are many ways to do most things. Here’s how I would do it.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

All white areas should be selected. Now what are you going to do?

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

In article
,
"" wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

You’ve had some good methods suggested. Like most things PhotoShop, there are many ways to do most things. Here’s how I would do it.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

All white areas should be selected. Now what are you going to do?

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

On Jan 13, 4:18 pm, ""
wrote:

"Fat Sam" wrote:

Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option.

Scott W wrote:

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

As an alternate method, can you magnify the image till you can see the pixels clearly and use the clone tool to select an adjacent pixel and clone it to the white one?

On Jan 13, 4:18 pm, ""
wrote:

"Fat Sam" wrote:

Now open the "select" menu and choose the "colour range" option.

Scott W wrote:

There is a check box with the magic wand that turn on and off the contiguous part of the operation.

Scott

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

As an alternate method, can you magnify the image till you can see the pixels clearly and use the clone tool to select an adjacent pixel and clone it to the white one?

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

Possibly – it’s certainly not clear to me.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

Possibly – it’s certainly not clear to me.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

Possibly – it’s certainly not clear to me.

ray found these unused words:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

Possibly – it’s certainly not clear to me.

The reason isn’t important, the OP wants to remove -=all=- white pixels for some purpose. He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

ray found these unused words:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

Possibly – it’s certainly not clear to me.

The reason isn’t important, the OP wants to remove -=all=- white pixels for some purpose. He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

ray found these unused words:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

ray found these unused words:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:39 -0800, wrote:

I am trying to remove all white pixels from a monochrome (black and black) picture imported into Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. The magic wand does not work because it removes contiguous pixels only. Is there any way to remove all white pixels?

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace them with after you remove them?

Possibly transparency …

Answer: "Select => Similar

Possibly – it’s certainly not clear to me.

The reason isn’t important, the OP wants to remove -=all=- white pixels for some purpose. He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Bobert wrote:

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

Thanks. It worked, but it took some experimenting. My first experiments were in the Indexed Color mode. The magic wand always crashed the Photoshop. Then I tried Grayscale mode – it worked much better. I could select all the white pixels, but I could not remove them, so I selected all the black pixels and I pasted them into a new layer. This worked much better although I had to spend a minute aligning the pasted pixels with the rest of the image.
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ray wrote:

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace
them with after you remove them?

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.
________________________

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

The Bobert wrote:

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

Thanks. It worked, but it took some experimenting. My first experiments were in the Indexed Color mode. The magic wand always crashed the Photoshop. Then I tried Grayscale mode – it worked much better. I could select all the white pixels, but I could not remove them, so I selected all the black pixels and I pasted them into a new layer. This worked much better although I had to spend a minute aligning the pasted pixels with the rest of the image.
________________________

ray wrote:

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace
them with after you remove them?

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.
________________________

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:57:57 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
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The reason isn’t important, the OP wants to remove -=all=- white pixels for some purpose. He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

A well-known bug in PSE6 is that pressing F1 *doesn’t* work!

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:57:57 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

The reason isn’t important, the OP wants to remove -=all=- white pixels for some purpose. He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

A well-known bug in PSE6 is that pressing F1 *doesn’t* work!

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:57:57 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

The reason isn’t important, the OP wants to remove -=all=- white pixels for some purpose. He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

A well-known bug in PSE6 is that pressing F1 *doesn’t* work!

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

I typed Special instead of Select.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Select Menu choose Similar
All white areas should be selected.

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

I typed Special instead of Select.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Select Menu choose Similar
All white areas should be selected.

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

I typed Special instead of Select.

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Select Menu choose Similar
All white areas should be selected.

—
Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff

Bob in Central California

wrote:

The Bobert wrote:

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

Here is a list of the service packs from AutoCad LT from 1999:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=1231 12&id=2334435&linkID=9240818#section9

I assume that’s the version you’re using. Is that correct – AutoCad LT from 1999?

wrote:

The Bobert wrote:

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

Here is a list of the service packs from AutoCad LT from 1999:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=1231 12&id=2334435&linkID=9240818#section9

I assume that’s the version you’re using. Is that correct – AutoCad LT from 1999?

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:22:39 -0800 (PST), ""
wrote in
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I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

Why not just convert the image to grayscale, and adjust Levels Output to eliminate pure white? What am I missing? Where are these white pixels coming from? Do you have any before and after examples?

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Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:22:39 -0800 (PST), ""
wrote in
:

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

Why not just convert the image to grayscale, and adjust Levels Output to eliminate pure white? What am I missing? Where are these white pixels coming from? Do you have any before and after examples?

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:22:39 -0800 (PST), ""
wrote in
:

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

Why not just convert the image to grayscale, and adjust Levels Output to eliminate pure white? What am I missing? Where are these white pixels coming from? Do you have any before and after examples?

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

That’s not you do it in Photoshop. You make the layers
as black and white, most easily by using "threshold" in Photoshop. Then you just set the layer conversion to "multiply" and opacity to 100%. Finally, flatten layers.

Doug McDonald

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

That’s not you do it in Photoshop. You make the layers
as black and white, most easily by using "threshold" in Photoshop. Then you just set the layer conversion to "multiply" and opacity to 100%. Finally, flatten layers.

Doug McDonald

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

That’s not you do it in Photoshop. You make the layers
as black and white, most easily by using "threshold" in Photoshop. Then you just set the layer conversion to "multiply" and opacity to 100%. Finally, flatten layers.

Doug McDonald

wrote:

The Bobert wrote:

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

Thanks. It worked, but it took some experimenting. My first experiments were in the Indexed Color mode. The magic wand always crashed the Photoshop. Then I tried Grayscale mode – it worked much better. I could select all the white pixels, but I could not remove them, so I selected all the black pixels and I pasted them into a new layer. This worked much better although I had to spend a minute aligning the pasted pixels with the rest of the image.
________________________

ray wrote:

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace
them with after you remove them?

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

Ah, OK that’s what you’re doing, filling in colors on a monochrome bitmap. In photoshop the paintbucket might do what you need here… or not. For future reference, the better tool for this is something like Illustrator which can import the vector linework from ACAD & apply gradients & line weights, etc. Also it’s going to look better with anti-aliased edges rather than jaggy forced bitmap edges. Zoom way in on some text in photoshop & you will see gray pixels softening the edges. Without those gray pixels it gets ugly.

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

Photoshop is hard to learn and the help files are indeed a cruel joke. Video tutorials are a nice way to go, or looking over someone’s shoulder. Simply tinkering will not get you far. I picked it up gradually over about 15 years time working with people who know the tricks. ACAD I mostly taught myself, they are *very* different.

Crashing isn’t normal: something else must be going on. If the file size is extremely large and/or too many undo levels are left in memory, that could bring things to a near standstill but PS almost never crashes in my experience.

wrote:

The Bobert wrote:

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

Thanks. It worked, but it took some experimenting. My first experiments were in the Indexed Color mode. The magic wand always crashed the Photoshop. Then I tried Grayscale mode – it worked much better. I could select all the white pixels, but I could not remove them, so I selected all the black pixels and I pasted them into a new layer. This worked much better although I had to spend a minute aligning the pasted pixels with the rest of the image.
________________________

ray wrote:

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace
them with after you remove them?

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

Ah, OK that’s what you’re doing, filling in colors on a monochrome bitmap. In photoshop the paintbucket might do what you need here… or not. For future reference, the better tool for this is something like Illustrator which can import the vector linework from ACAD & apply gradients & line weights, etc. Also it’s going to look better with anti-aliased edges rather than jaggy forced bitmap edges. Zoom way in on some text in photoshop & you will see gray pixels softening the edges. Without those gray pixels it gets ugly.

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

Photoshop is hard to learn and the help files are indeed a cruel joke. Video tutorials are a nice way to go, or looking over someone’s shoulder. Simply tinkering will not get you far. I picked it up gradually over about 15 years time working with people who know the tricks. ACAD I mostly taught myself, they are *very* different.

Crashing isn’t normal: something else must be going on. If the file size is extremely large and/or too many undo levels are left in memory, that could bring things to a near standstill but PS almost never crashes in my experience.

wrote:

The Bobert wrote:

Open Image
Select Magic Wand
Click on a white area.
Under Special Menu choose Similar

Thanks. It worked, but it took some experimenting. My first experiments were in the Indexed Color mode. The magic wand always crashed the Photoshop. Then I tried Grayscale mode – it worked much better. I could select all the white pixels, but I could not remove them, so I selected all the black pixels and I pasted them into a new layer. This worked much better although I had to spend a minute aligning the pasted pixels with the rest of the image.
________________________

ray wrote:

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace
them with after you remove them?

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

Ah, OK that’s what you’re doing, filling in colors on a monochrome bitmap. In photoshop the paintbucket might do what you need here… or not. For future reference, the better tool for this is something like Illustrator which can import the vector linework from ACAD & apply gradients & line weights, etc. Also it’s going to look better with anti-aliased edges rather than jaggy forced bitmap edges. Zoom way in on some text in photoshop & you will see gray pixels softening the edges. Without those gray pixels it gets ugly.

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

Photoshop is hard to learn and the help files are indeed a cruel joke. Video tutorials are a nice way to go, or looking over someone’s shoulder. Simply tinkering will not get you far. I picked it up gradually over about 15 years time working with people who know the tricks. ACAD I mostly taught myself, they are *very* different.

Crashing isn’t normal: something else must be going on. If the file size is extremely large and/or too many undo levels are left in memory, that could bring things to a near standstill but PS almost never crashes in my experience.

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:27:41 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

My own take is that AutoCAD has a much more logical menu system, and that Photoshop has become less stable with each major release. Case in point is Photoshop Elements 6, which has way too many painful glitches, and a black user interface that’s downright painful to use.

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:27:41 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

My own take is that AutoCAD has a much more logical menu system, and that Photoshop has become less stable with each major release. Case in point is Photoshop Elements 6, which has way too many painful glitches, and a black user interface that’s downright painful to use.

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:27:41 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

My own take is that AutoCAD has a much more logical menu system, and that Photoshop has become less stable with each major release. Case in point is Photoshop Elements 6, which has way too many painful glitches, and a black user interface that’s downright painful to use.

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for 99 cents.

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for 99 cents.

In article , Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

no doubt it was. photoshop is extremely stable, but when run on flaky hardware, crashes can occur.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

i’ve used every version of photoshop since before 1.0 was released and the only times it crashed that i can recall was in version 4 (i think — it’s been way too long) when saving a jpeg could occasionally crash if there was not enough memory, or a buggy third party plug-in, which is not adobe’s fault.

In article , Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

no doubt it was. photoshop is extremely stable, but when run on flaky hardware, crashes can occur.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

i’ve used every version of photoshop since before 1.0 was released and the only times it crashed that i can recall was in version 4 (i think — it’s been way too long) when saving a jpeg could occasionally crash if there was not enough memory, or a buggy third party plug-in, which is not adobe’s fault.

In article , Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

no doubt it was. photoshop is extremely stable, but when run on flaky hardware, crashes can occur.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

i’ve used every version of photoshop since before 1.0 was released and the only times it crashed that i can recall was in version 4 (i think — it’s been way too long) when saving a jpeg could occasionally crash if there was not enough memory, or a buggy third party plug-in, which is not adobe’s fault.

John Navas found these unused words:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:27:41 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

My own take is that AutoCAD has a much more logical menu system, and that Photoshop has become less stable with each major release. Case in point is Photoshop Elements 6, which has way too many painful glitches, and a black user interface that’s downright painful to use.

Of course, that which is most used and familiar, especially first learned is the more’ logical’.

I won’t go back into the (minimum of two) ACAD releases that were near disasters. IIRC, you didn’t get the ‘fixes’ free either – they fought tooth and nail for every ‘adjustment’ – mostly adjusting your wallet!

John Navas found these unused words:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:27:41 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

My own take is that AutoCAD has a much more logical menu system, and that Photoshop has become less stable with each major release. Case in point is Photoshop Elements 6, which has way too many painful glitches, and a black user interface that’s downright painful to use.

Of course, that which is most used and familiar, especially first learned is the more’ logical’.

I won’t go back into the (minimum of two) ACAD releases that were near disasters. IIRC, you didn’t get the ‘fixes’ free either – they fought tooth and nail for every ‘adjustment’ – mostly adjusting your wallet!

John Navas found these unused words:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:27:41 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote in
:

"" found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

He/she/it just hasn’t learned PS or know about pressing F1.

The Photoshop is very unstable, it lacks elementary features that one expects in a professional program, and its help file is a bad joke. I am used to AutoCAD, so I curse the Photoshop makers and I wonder why the professional computer programmers have not driven the Photoshop makers to the unemployment line.

More likely your system is unstable.

NEVER in more than 12 years of using PS from Version 3 up has the Magic wand EVER crashed the program!

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

My own take is that AutoCAD has a much more logical menu system, and that Photoshop has become less stable with each major release. Case in point is Photoshop Elements 6, which has way too many painful glitches, and a black user interface that’s downright painful to use.

Of course, that which is most used and familiar, especially first learned is the more’ logical’.

I won’t go back into the (minimum of two) ACAD releases that were near disasters. IIRC, you didn’t get the ‘fixes’ free either – they fought tooth and nail for every ‘adjustment’ – mostly adjusting your wallet!

On Jan 15, 3:22 am, ""
wrote:

ray wrote:

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace
them with after you remove them?

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

If your drawings are bitmap-based (bmp, jpg, etc.), there’s a simple way to do what you want with MS Paint –

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

On Jan 15, 3:22 am, ""
wrote:

ray wrote:

I don’t understand – what are you going to replace
them with after you remove them?

I am trying to make a shading for a patent drawing. The U.S. patent office does not accept computer renderings of 3D CAD drawings. The drawings must have only two colors (black and white) and they must be either hand-made, or they must look like hand-made drawings. This means that the only way to make relatively nice 3D patent drawings is to combine 3 layers (lines, shading, text) in the Photoshop or a similar program. The two top layers must be transparent, so all the white pixels must be removed.

If your drawings are bitmap-based (bmp, jpg, etc.), there’s a simple way to do what you want with MS Paint –

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

wrote:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for 99 cents.

Photoshop is a very advanced professional tool. I’m constantly amazed how many tricks await my discovery, though I’m probably equally amazed how anyone ever discovers them 🙂

wrote:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for 99 cents.

Photoshop is a very advanced professional tool. I’m constantly amazed how many tricks await my discovery, though I’m probably equally amazed how anyone ever discovers them 🙂

wrote:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for 99 cents.

Photoshop is a very advanced professional tool. I’m constantly amazed how many tricks await my discovery, though I’m probably equally amazed how anyone ever discovers them 🙂

wrote:

If your drawings are bitmap-based (bmp, jpg, etc.), there’s a simple way to do what you want with MS Paint –

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

wrote:

If your drawings are bitmap-based (bmp, jpg, etc.), there’s a simple way to do what you want with MS Paint –

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:56:25 -0800 (PST), ""
wrote in
:

wrote:

If your drawings are bitmap-based (bmp, jpg, etc.), there’s a simple way to do what you want with MS Paint –

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:56:25 -0800 (PST), ""
wrote in
:

wrote:

If your drawings are bitmap-based (bmp, jpg, etc.), there’s a simple way to do what you want with MS Paint –

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

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Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:56:25 -0800 (PST), ""
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If your drawings are bitmap-based (bmp, jpg, etc.), there’s a simple way to do what you want with MS Paint –

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

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Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

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Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. > – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for
99 cents.

So let’s review
you are using an ANCIENT version of PS when you should be using ILLUSTRATOR and complaining about PS sucking and then asking a PS group of PS fans to help you by continuing to insult PS
IT DOesN’T CRASH FOR US

not version 4 not version 5 not 6 or 7.01 or CS
all worked fine on all my comps

Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD

SO PROFOUND
OF COURSE NOT OR PS WOULD BE CALLED AUTO CAD DESIGN PROGRAM

PS does EXACTLY what it’s designed for
FIX PHOTOS
AND IT DOES SO MUCH MORE FOR THOSE WILLING TO INVEST THE TIME AND PATIENCE to learn it instead of whine about it people here told you several methods Mike bothered to fully type the 5.0 ANCIENT method
let’s review
RUDE
insulting
does not listen
whines
help this person??
I think NOT

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Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. > – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for
99 cents.

So let’s review
you are using an ANCIENT version of PS when you should be using ILLUSTRATOR and complaining about PS sucking and then asking a PS group of PS fans to help you by continuing to insult PS
IT DOesN’T CRASH FOR US

not version 4 not version 5 not 6 or 7.01 or CS
all worked fine on all my comps

Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD

SO PROFOUND
OF COURSE NOT OR PS WOULD BE CALLED AUTO CAD DESIGN PROGRAM

PS does EXACTLY what it’s designed for
FIX PHOTOS
AND IT DOES SO MUCH MORE FOR THOSE WILLING TO INVEST THE TIME AND PATIENCE to learn it instead of whine about it people here told you several methods Mike bothered to fully type the 5.0 ANCIENT method
let’s review
RUDE
insulting
does not listen
whines
help this person??
I think NOT

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Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

AutoCAD, OTOH … earlier versions, click and pray (or was it prey?).

Between 1984 and 1997 I was a sort of living encyclopedia of AutoCAD. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 annual releases of AutoCAD. For example: 11a, 11b, 11c, 11d. The "a" release was buggy so I always ignored it. The "c" release typically came out half a year later. It was either perfect or almost perfect. When AutoCAD crashes, it automatically saves the drawing file, so it is not a catastrophe, but a nuisance. AutoCAD is a professional tool meant for those who are willing to invest at least a few hundred hours in learning it and customizing (programming) it. > – it looks and feels like a bonus program bundled on CD-ROM sold for
99 cents.

So let’s review
you are using an ANCIENT version of PS when you should be using ILLUSTRATOR and complaining about PS sucking and then asking a PS group of PS fans to help you by continuing to insult PS
IT DOesN’T CRASH FOR US

not version 4 not version 5 not 6 or 7.01 or CS
all worked fine on all my comps

Photoshop cannot be compared to AutoCAD

SO PROFOUND
OF COURSE NOT OR PS WOULD BE CALLED AUTO CAD DESIGN PROGRAM

PS does EXACTLY what it’s designed for
FIX PHOTOS
AND IT DOES SO MUCH MORE FOR THOSE WILLING TO INVEST THE TIME AND PATIENCE to learn it instead of whine about it people here told you several methods Mike bothered to fully type the 5.0 ANCIENT method
let’s review
RUDE
insulting
does not listen
whines
help this person??
I think NOT

Paul Furman wrote:

Photoshop is a very advanced professional tool. I’m constantly amazed how many tricks await my discovery, though I’m probably equally amazed how anyone ever discovers them 🙂

Maybe some university should run a Masters course ‘Getting the most out of Photoshop’. There is far more in it than my poor brain can ever hope to comprehend!

James McNangle

On Jan 15, 11:59 pm, John Navas wrote:

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

It works, but this is a crude method because it is nearly impossible to make the corrections after the images have been combined. It is much more convenient to separate the image into transparent layers.

On Jan 15, 11:59 pm, John Navas wrote:

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

It works, but this is a crude method because it is nearly impossible to make the corrections after the images have been combined. It is much more convenient to separate the image into transparent layers.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:34:36 -0800 (PST), ""
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On Jan 15, 11:59 pm, John Navas wrote:

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

It works, but this is a crude method because it is nearly impossible to make the corrections after the images have been combined. It is much more convenient to separate the image into transparent layers.

Agreed. I only use MS Paint for certain trivial tasks.

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Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:34:36 -0800 (PST), ""
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On Jan 15, 11:59 pm, John Navas wrote:

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

It works, but this is a crude method because it is nearly impossible to make the corrections after the images have been combined. It is much more convenient to separate the image into transparent layers.

Agreed. I only use MS Paint for certain trivial tasks.

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:34:36 -0800 (PST), ""
wrote in
:

On Jan 15, 11:59 pm, John Navas wrote:

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

It works, but this is a crude method because it is nearly impossible to make the corrections after the images have been combined. It is much more convenient to separate the image into transparent layers.

Agreed. I only use MS Paint for certain trivial tasks.

—
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)

On Jan 16, 1:34 pm, ""
wrote:

On Jan 15, 11:59 pm, John Navas wrote:

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

It works, but this is a crude method because it is nearly impossible to make the corrections after the images have been combined. It is much more convenient to separate the image into transparent layers.

No one is claiming that MS Paint is a sophisticated image processing software. Everyone knows that it’s a very basic drawing tool. But it does exactly what you said you wanted to do in your OP and in your later statement that I quoted. Perhaps I missed an earlier post where you said that you wanted to be able to alter the combined image.

My apologies for suggesting such a simple solution. Maybe it’s because I’m not the type to take my Rolls Royce to pick up a few items from the Mom & Dad store next door.

On Jan 16, 1:34 pm, ""
wrote:

On Jan 15, 11:59 pm, John Navas wrote:

1. Save each layer as a separate picture
2. Open the bottom layer in MS Paint
3. Choose White as the background color (default)
4. Select "Paste from" from the Edit menu
5. Paste one of the other layers, choosing the transparent    background option (bottom of the tool bar)
6. Paste the third image

There are no layers in MS Paint, version 5.1.

See step 1.

It works, but this is a crude method because it is nearly impossible to make the corrections after the images have been combined. It is much more convenient to separate the image into transparent layers.

No one is claiming that MS Paint is a sophisticated image processing software. Everyone knows that it’s a very basic drawing tool. But it does exactly what you said you wanted to do in your OP and in your later statement that I quoted. Perhaps I missed an earlier post where you said that you wanted to be able to alter the combined image.

My apologies for suggesting such a simple solution. Maybe it’s because I’m not the type to take my Rolls Royce to pick up a few items from the Mom & Dad store next door.

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"Fat Sam" wrote:

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

I think you should be able to select one of the white pixels and then under the SELECT menu click on "Select Similar".

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dvus

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"Fat Sam" wrote:

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

I think you should be able to select one of the white pixels and then under the SELECT menu click on "Select Similar".

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dvus

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"Fat Sam" wrote:

These options do not exist in my version of the Photoshop. (5.0 LE.) I guess I should upgrade it.

I think you should be able to select one of the white pixels and then under the SELECT menu click on "Select Similar".

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dvus