Any Suggestions

i guess the bottom could match the top, as long as it is consistant.

thanks again!

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.
Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.
Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

make an adjutment layer with curves
use it to make the top part of the photo as the bottom, try to match contrast

for a minute just ignore the bottom looks too dark
then click mask on the adjustment layer
it should be all white
make a selection of the bottom part up to the area of difference then feather the selection to soften it
use edit fill >choose black
you may have to adjust the mask position and./or the opacity of the curves layer

you can use a paintbrush on the mask also if you find it easier

"KatWoman" wrote in message

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.

Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

make an adjutment layer with curves
use it to make the top part of the photo as the bottom, try to match contrast

for a minute just ignore the bottom looks too dark
then click mask on the adjustment layer
it should be all white
make a selection of the bottom part up to the area of difference then feather the selection to soften it
use edit fill >choose black
you may have to adjust the mask position and./or the opacity of the curves layer

you can use a paintbrush on the mask also if you find it easier

scratch that idea
if you use it make the selection first easier

after actually trying to fix it:

new layer above orig
fill with 50% gray
put on overlay
use burn tool on top half
it will take a color shift
make a hue sat layer above
on colorize to even all

PS CS screenshot here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/2285171718/sizes/o/

thanks for your suggestions. I will try them. BTW i can’t look at your example, it says i do not have permission. I have a flickr account, but can’t look at what you did.

Thanks so much for your advice
"KatWoman" wrote in message

"KatWoman" wrote in message

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.

Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

make an adjutment layer with curves
use it to make the top part of the photo as the bottom, try to match contrast

for a minute just ignore the bottom looks too dark
then click mask on the adjustment layer
it should be all white
make a selection of the bottom part up to the area of difference then feather the selection to soften it
use edit fill >choose black
you may have to adjust the mask position and./or the opacity of the curves layer

you can use a paintbrush on the mask also if you find it easier

scratch that idea
if you use it make the selection first easier

after actually trying to fix it:

new layer above orig
fill with 50% gray
put on overlay
use burn tool on top half
it will take a color shift
make a hue sat layer above
on colorize to even all

PS CS screenshot here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/2285171718/sizes/o/

bolo wrote:

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.
Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

Scan it in color, then choose the blue channel (ctrl-3) to look at the image. Yellowed or faded b/w images render much better under blue light, to which yellow looks dark.

If you like it, Edit/Mode/Greyscale will convert the image to mono . If you want to tone the image, say sepia, use Edit/Mode/RGB to turn the image into color mode – it will still look grey – and then you can color it or whatever you want.

Colin D.

Ctrl-1 = red channel, ctrl-2 = green channel, ctrl-3 = blue channel, and ctrl-~ = full color.

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"bolo" wrote in message

thanks for your suggestions. I will try them. BTW i can’t look at your example, it says i do not have permission. I have a flickr account, but can’t look at what you did.

Thanks so much for your advice
"KatWoman" wrote in message

"KatWoman" wrote in message

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.

Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

make an adjutment layer with curves
use it to make the top part of the photo as the bottom, try to match contrast

for a minute just ignore the bottom looks too dark
then click mask on the adjustment layer
it should be all white
make a selection of the bottom part up to the area of difference then feather the selection to soften it
use edit fill >choose black
you may have to adjust the mask position and./or the opacity of the curves layer

you can use a paintbrush on the mask also if you find it easier

scratch that idea
if you use it make the selection first easier

after actually trying to fix it:

new layer above orig
fill with 50% gray
put on overlay
use burn tool on top half
it will take a color shift
make a hue sat layer above
on colorize to even all

PS CS screenshot here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/2285171718/sizes/o/

????

Katwoman

I hate to ask you this, you have done so much. I looked at your screenshot, but I am old and don’t see too well – it happens to us all. I can’t quite tell what you have done.

could/would you please email the screenshot?

please remove the no-spam.

I do appreciate what your telling me. I printed off your instructions and am not having the same results.

Thanks again
"KatWoman" wrote in message

"bolo" wrote in message

thanks for your suggestions. I will try them. BTW i can’t look at your example, it says i do not have permission. I have a flickr account, but can’t look at what you did.

Thanks so much for your advice
"KatWoman" wrote in message

"KatWoman" wrote in message

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.

Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

make an adjutment layer with curves
use it to make the top part of the photo as the bottom, try to match contrast

for a minute just ignore the bottom looks too dark
then click mask on the adjustment layer
it should be all white
make a selection of the bottom part up to the area of difference then feather the selection to soften it
use edit fill >choose black
you may have to adjust the mask position and./or the opacity of the curves layer

you can use a paintbrush on the mask also if you find it easier

scratch that idea
if you use it make the selection first easier

after actually trying to fix it:

new layer above orig
fill with 50% gray
put on overlay
use burn tool on top half
it will take a color shift
make a hue sat layer above
on colorize to even all

PS CS screenshot here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/2285171718/sizes/o/

????

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.

Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

I haven’t been on here much so sorry for the late response.. It seems as if you already have a couple of excellent working methods from KatWoman and Colin D.. So I will contribute my 2 cents worth only because my name was mentioned..

To even out the photo I made 3 copies of the background and ran levels on them using individual RGB while holding down the Alt key ( Tutorial here < http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=255 >).. 1st layer observed the little shirt and hat while using the left slider till a bit of color showed then the right slider till a little color showed on each channel(RGB)..
2nd layer same except observed face of little boy..
3rd layer same except observed the face of larger boy.
Then selected all and did a Copy Merged, Paste to bring all the layers together..
converted to B/W using a Russell Brown method found at < http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html > (Just because it was the first thing that popped up in my action pallet to convert to B/W).. Used History brush at multiply at about 45% Opacity to darken hair and top of photo and using screen to bring out larger boys hand and other dark areas that needed lightening..
My workflow to this stage is here <
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=81807_vernon_and_wi lmer_working_cA_122_1070lo.jpg > (or here http://tinyurl.com/27v8nx if the link above is broken)

The retouch tutorial:
http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=255 ..
could be followed from here on to bring this picture to life..

(another method to convert to B/W would be by extracting the channels into layers: simply copy the contents of each channel into a layer. This has a number of advantages over the quick-and-dirty channel mixing or Hue/Saturation methods: for one thing, you can visually control the contribution of each channel to the final image simply by adjusting the opacity of the channels, and by using layer masks, you can select different mixes for different parts of the image.)

Lots of different ways to do things.. have fun with it
—
"Granny"
Old N Slow N Prefer Quick N Easy

"granny" wrote in message

"bolo" wrote in message

I have a work in progress, and have not done too many restorations. I can clean the images up, but on this one I am not sure which way to go. I would appreciate any I could get. I am not looking for anyone to do it, just tell me what I should do. I am concerned about making the top of the image that has faded match or come close to the lower portion of the image.

Something tells me that perhaps Granny has a suggestion…… 🙂 I sure hope so!

Thanks in advance
bolo
http://www.cadotonic.com/photoshop/vernon.html

I haven’t been on here much so sorry for the late response.. It seems as if you already have a couple of excellent working methods from KatWoman and Colin D.. So I will contribute my 2 cents worth only because my name was mentioned..

To even out the photo I made 3 copies of the background and ran levels on them using individual RGB while holding down the Alt key ( Tutorial here < http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=255 >).. 1st layer observed the little shirt and hat while using the left slider till a bit of color showed then the right slider till a little color showed on each channel(RGB)..
2nd layer same except observed face of little boy..
3rd layer same except observed the face of larger boy.
Then selected all and did a Copy Merged, Paste to bring all the layers together..
converted to B/W using a Russell Brown method found at < http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html > (Just because it was the first thing that popped up in my action pallet to convert to B/W).. Used History brush at multiply at about 45% Opacity to darken hair and top of photo and using screen to bring out larger boys hand and other dark areas that needed lightening..
My workflow to this stage is here <
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=81807_vernon_and_wi lmer_working_cA_122_1070lo.jpg > (or here http://tinyurl.com/27v8nx if the link above is broken)
The retouch tutorial:
http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=255 ..
could be followed from here on to bring this picture to life..
(another method to convert to B/W would be by extracting the channels into layers: simply copy the contents of each channel into a layer. This has a number of advantages over the quick-and-dirty channel mixing or Hue/Saturation methods: for one thing, you can visually control the contribution of each channel to the final image simply by adjusting the opacity of the channels, and by using layer masks, you can select different mixes for different parts of the image.)

Lots of different ways to do things.. have fun with it
—
"Granny"
Old N Slow N Prefer Quick N Easy

I tried a levels method first but was not able to dig anything from right (facing viewer) side

"KatWoman" wrote in message

I tried a levels method first but was not able to dig anything from right (facing viewer) side

T’is probably because there is no info there… I think you did great and pulled out all there was to pull out… except, maybe one little thing!~.. did you spot the "KAT"
http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=03394_Kat_122_81l o.jpg —
"Granny"
Old N Slow N Prefer Quick N Easy

"granny" wrote in message

"KatWoman" wrote in message

I tried a levels method first but was not able to dig anything from right (facing viewer) side

T’is probably because there is no info there… I think you did great and pulled out all there was to pull out… except, maybe one little thing!~.. did you spot the "KAT"
http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=03394_Kat_122_81l o.jpg —
"Granny"
Old N Slow N Prefer Quick N Easy

THAT is AMAZING!!
NO never saw it
didn’t attempt to see that area
but I see there was some info there

KNowing my family, even though this was taken in about 1914, I find it amazing that there actually is a cat there. I still don’t see it. Is it like one of those statue of liberty things 🙂
"KatWoman" wrote in message

"granny" wrote in message

"KatWoman" wrote in message

I tried a levels method first but was not able to dig anything from right (facing viewer) side

T’is probably because there is no info there… I think you did great and pulled out all there was to pull out… except, maybe one little thing!~.. did you spot the "KAT"
http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=03394_Kat_122_81l o.jpg —
"Granny"
Old N Slow N Prefer Quick N Easy

THAT is AMAZING!!
NO never saw it
didn’t attempt to see that area
but I see there was some info there