Need recommendation for 2nd book on Photoshop

Norm Dresner wrote:

I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland and Fuller.

Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories:

1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty well.

2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free painting) — which I’ve just started to do

3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary.
If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather keep expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures.
TIA

Norm
Hi

You could save yourself some cash by going to Russell Brown, Ian Lyons and Clive Haynes via your search engine.

"Sonsdad" wrote in message
| Norm Dresner wrote:
| > I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland
| > and Fuller.
| >
| > Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories: | >
| > 1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty
| > well.
| >
| > 2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free | > painting) — which I’ve just started to do
| >
| > 3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same
| > time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary. | >
| > If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather keep
| > expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape
| > photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing
| > I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures. | >
| > TIA
| >
| > Norm
| > Hi
|
| You could save yourself some cash by going to Russell Brown, Ian Lyons | and Clive Haynes via your search engine.

I asked for books because I like books. Okay, I’m an old fart, but that’s the way I think.

Norm

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| You could save yourself some cash by going to Russell Brown, Ian Lyons | and Clive Haynes via your search engine.

I asked for books because I like books. Okay, I’m an old fart, but that’s the way I think.

Norm

Totally agree with you, Norm. You are an old fart. and stinking. You could have answered a really friendly suggestion like this with a ‘thank you’ and kept on searching without your comments. Not even a thankyou! You stink.
I hope the rest of the commenter’s note this.

To you Sonsdad, thank you.
Of course Russel Brown is well known, and the other names pop us some or another time, but they are not as well known. I searched the names and came to a quite nice tutorial site by Clive Haynes on Raw, and learned some things I did not know. Thanks for the names.

Dave

"Norm Dresner" wrote in message

"Sonsdad" wrote in message
| Norm Dresner wrote:
| > I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland
| > and Fuller.
| >
| > Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories: | >
| > 1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty
| > well.
| >
| > 2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free | > painting) — which I’ve just started to do
| >
| > 3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same
| > time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary. | >
| > If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather
keep
| > expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape
| > photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing
| > I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures. | >
| > TIA
| >
| > Norm
| > Hi
|
| You could save yourself some cash by going to Russell Brown, Ian Lyons | and Clive Haynes via your search engine.

I asked for books because I like books. Okay, I’m an old fart, but that’s the way I think.

Norm

You’re welcome.
—
Mike Russell – www.curvemeister.com

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:59:21 GMT, "Norm Dresner" wrote:

I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland and Fuller.

Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories:

1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty well.

2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free painting) — which I’ve just started to do

3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary.
If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather keep expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures.
TIA

Norm

Try ‘The Creative Digital Darkroom’ by Katrin Eismann. Published by O’Reilly. She also has an earlier book on photo retouching by a different publisher. Katrin is an Adobe consultant and features on PS later video tuts.

Barney J

Barney J wrote:

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:59:21 GMT, "Norm Dresner" wrote:

I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland and Fuller.

Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories:

1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty well.

2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free painting) — which I’ve just started to do

3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary.
If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather keep expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures.
TIA

Norm

Try ‘The Creative Digital Darkroom’ by Katrin Eismann. Published by O’Reilly. She also has an earlier book on photo retouching by a different publisher. Katrin is an Adobe consultant and features on PS later video tuts.

Barney J

I am really sorry that I gave you my lame advice of suggesting a few links to Russell Brown etc. I do have this neat trick of running off pages from the links and binding them into what you are calling a ‘book’…….

If I was to suggest a book it would be one of Scott Kelbys’ The Photoshop CS2 Book For Digital Photographers or anything and everything by Katrin Eismann, Skin by Lee Varis The publisher of Restoration and Retouching By Katrin Eismann is New Riders.

Happy hunting

my next purchase will be the e-book just produced/released at www.radiantvista.com by mark Johnson called
Photographer’s Photoshop CS3 Companion The Complete eBook – CD Version the link page is http://www.radiantvista.com/goodies/books he is a very good teacher, makes things understandable, etc… I think it is a bargain. you can get it on CD as well… check it out… I think there are some sample pages on his home website as well… kk

"Sonsdad" wrote in message

Barney J wrote:

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:59:21 GMT, "Norm Dresner" wrote:

I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland and Fuller.

Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories:

1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty well.

2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free painting) — which I’ve just started to do

3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary.
If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather keep expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures.

TIA

Norm

Try ‘The Creative Digital Darkroom’ by Katrin Eismann. Published by O’Reilly. She also has an earlier book on photo retouching by a different publisher. Katrin is an Adobe consultant and features on PS later video tuts.

Barney J

I am really sorry that I gave you my lame advice of suggesting a few links to Russell Brown etc. I do have this neat trick of running off pages from the links and binding them into what you are calling a ‘book’…….
If I was to suggest a book it would be one of Scott Kelbys’ The Photoshop CS2 Book For Digital Photographers or anything and everything by Katrin Eismann, Skin by Lee Varis The publisher of Restoration and Retouching By Katrin Eismann is New Riders.

Happy hunting

yes, samples here… http://www.msjphotography.com/tips.html kk

"Sonsdad" wrote in message

Barney J wrote:

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:59:21 GMT, "Norm Dresner" wrote:

I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland and Fuller.

Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories:

1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty well.

2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free painting) — which I’ve just started to do

3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary.
If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather keep expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures.

TIA

Norm

Try ‘The Creative Digital Darkroom’ by Katrin Eismann. Published by O’Reilly. She also has an earlier book on photo retouching by a different publisher. Katrin is an Adobe consultant and features on PS later video tuts.

Barney J

I am really sorry that I gave you my lame advice of suggesting a few links to Russell Brown etc. I do have this neat trick of running off pages from the links and binding them into what you are calling a ‘book’…….
If I was to suggest a book it would be one of Scott Kelbys’ The Photoshop CS2 Book For Digital Photographers or anything and everything by Katrin Eismann, Skin by Lee Varis The publisher of Restoration and Retouching By Katrin Eismann is New Riders.

Happy hunting

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:39:29 -0700, "www.kevinkienlein.com" wrote:

yes, samples here… http://www.msjphotography.com/tips.html kk
"Sonsdad" wrote in message

Barney J wrote:

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:59:21 GMT, "Norm Dresner" wrote:

I’ve finished (and mostly digested) the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" by McClelland and Fuller.

Most of my Photoshop usage falls into three categories:

1. Optimizing and printing digital pictures — which I think I know pretty well.

2. Creating special effects to enhance pictures (including free painting) — which I’ve just started to do

3. Retouching portraits and restoring old pictures, usually at the same time — not my favorite activity but it’s becoming more necessary.
If it takes two or three new books, I’d still be interested, but rather keep expenses down if I can. FWIW, I’m a semi-professional nature and landscape photographer whose been taking pictures for over 50 years and the last thing I need is something that tells me how to take digital pictures.

TIA

Thanks for the URL with samples. What a program PS is that there can by so many books, writings, tutorials etc on the same program.

I own hardcover and ebooks both the ‘classroom in a book’ CS2 7 CS3 CS2 in hardcover CS3 in ebook – CS 2 for Photographers – Martin Evening in hardcover and also the same for CS3 in ebook. The Photoshop® Channels Book By Scott Kelby
How to Cheat in Photoshop CS3
More hardcover’s not mentioned.
numerous magazines

and then, OTS but let me mention it, I order books by well known artists via Amazone from England on Corel Painter.
Was it Norman who said he is a ‘book man’ or something to the effect? So am I. And currency wise (re exchange rate Rand vs $ & £) it is a expensive hobby.

Dave