What am I missing in this?

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A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.

Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg

I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.

I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

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Fred
Mar 29, 2008
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

The easiest way I can think of is to write the text, put an image on top, hold down Option/Alt and click between the layers in the layers-palette. Or go to Layer > Create clipping mask, it does the same thing. That is in CS3, if I remember well, it’s the same in CS2.
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samandjanet
Mar 29, 2008
Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…


http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village
C
Carrie
Mar 29, 2008
"Fred" wrote in message
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

The easiest way I can think of is to write the text, put an image on top, hold down Option/Alt and click between the layers in the layers-palette. Or go to Layer > Create clipping mask, it does the same thing. That is in CS3, if I remember well, it’s the same in CS2.

Okay, I’ll try it
It was sort of one of those… "why can’t I REMEMBER it?" things. Maybe I try and learn too much at once, sometimes I can’t remember which program does what.
Maybe I’m just getting old (LOL)
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Carrie
Mar 29, 2008
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it up.

I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing, and probably easier.

Thanks!


http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village
S
samandjanet
Mar 29, 2008
Carrie wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it. Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it up.
I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing, and probably easier.

Thanks!

You’ve got me intrigued now.
I tried applying the fill image after creating the text mask, but I lost the mask every time I tried it.
I can see an evening of experimentation unfolding ahead of me 😉


http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village
C
Carrie
Mar 29, 2008
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it. Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it up.
I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing, and probably easier.

Thanks!

You’ve got me intrigued now.
I tried applying the fill image after creating the text mask, but I lost the mask every time I tried it.
I can see an evening of experimentation unfolding ahead of me 😉

I know what you mean.
I’ve spent many hours trying to figure something out, the last time was yesterday, someone in a Publisher Group asked about filling Word Art text (several lines) with a picture, and then moving the words/lines closer together (to have more of the picture under it show in the text) You can click and drag to make the text bigger, wider, higher, but can’t move the separate lines closer (more compact). If you create each line separatly in Word Art you can, but when it fills each lines has a separate version of the picture in it.

Before yesterday, I don’t even remember knowing you could fill word art with a graphic.

I ended up deciding it’s the font that matters, some fonts aren’t as spaced (apart) as others. The person thought (and was asking) you could adjust the spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

This is what got me to thinking about how I did it in PS, thinking if it was set up (big font, with picture fill, closer together like the person wanted) it could than be copy/pasted, or inserted (as a jpg) into Publisher (if it had to be finished there)

The person asking, ended up saying he was going to create each line of filled text with part of the picture (guessing where top, middle and bottom would be) and then paste it together.

Which seems like a complicated way.

I wish I could find where I saw the way I learned to do it, and I’m pretty sure it had the "group layer" at the end, bcause I had never noticed or used that before.

http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village
C
Carrie
Mar 29, 2008
I think I have the answer (and that was mainly what I wanted, to have it make sense (LOL)

I still have PS 7 in and openned that and tried it. This has "group with previous" and works (after doing it, there’s also SELECT and INVERT, as someone mentioned here)

I tried it in PS CS2 and it has "group layers". It wouldn’t work till I used merge group (after inverting it) and then deleting and the background went away.

That must have been it, I was using PS 7 and the tool was "group with previous" which doesn’ seem to be there on CS2

I’m new to these newsgroups (I also found an Illustrator one, I keep trying to learn that and give up!) and it’s nice that people are understanding about newbies and some still learning themselves. I’ve joined groups (years ago) like yahoo groups, where everyone seems so advanced and impatient with anyone who isn’t.

I’m an older woman (family grown and gone) who discovered computers and programs a few years ago, and mainly teaching myself. I know, I’m not the only one doing this, it seems to be the new "retirement" (LOL)

"Carrie" wrote in message
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks
K
KatWoman
Mar 29, 2008
"Carrie" wrote in message
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it. Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group
layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it up.
I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing, and probably easier.

Thanks!

You’ve got me intrigued now.
I tried applying the fill image after creating the text mask, but I lost the mask every time I tried it.
I can see an evening of experimentation unfolding ahead of me 😉

I know what you mean.
I’ve spent many hours trying to figure something out, the last time was yesterday, someone in a Publisher Group asked about filling Word Art text (several lines) with a picture, and then moving the words/lines closer together (to have more of the picture under it show in the text) You can click and drag to make the text bigger, wider, higher, but can’t move the separate lines closer (more compact). If you create each line separatly in Word Art you can, but when it fills each lines has a separate version of the picture in it.

Before yesterday, I don’t even remember knowing you could fill word art with a graphic.

I ended up deciding it’s the font that matters, some fonts aren’t as spaced (apart) as others. The person thought (and was asking) you could adjust the spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

This is what got me to thinking about how I did it in PS, thinking if it was set up (big font, with picture fill, closer together like the person wanted) it could than be copy/pasted, or inserted (as a jpg) into Publisher (if it had to be finished there)

The person asking, ended up saying he was going to create each line of filled text with part of the picture (guessing where top, middle and bottom would be) and then paste it together.

Which seems like a complicated way.

I wish I could find where I saw the way I learned to do it, and I’m pretty sure it had the "group layer" at the end, bcause I had never noticed or used that before.

http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village

you could adjust the
spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

yes you can
FORMAT>paragraph
line spacing or right click and choose text paragraph

select the text first by highlight

never use word art so not sure about the options in it
B
bolo
Mar 29, 2008
Sop post an example of what your finished product was. I am interested in seeing what was going on.

Thanks.
"Carrie" wrote in message
I think I have the answer (and that was mainly what I wanted, to have it make sense (LOL)

I still have PS 7 in and openned that and tried it. This has "group with previous" and works (after doing it, there’s also SELECT and INVERT, as someone mentioned here)

I tried it in PS CS2 and it has "group layers". It wouldn’t work till I used merge group (after inverting it) and then deleting and the background went away.

That must have been it, I was using PS 7 and the tool was "group with previous" which doesn’ seem to be there on CS2

I’m new to these newsgroups (I also found an Illustrator one, I keep trying to learn that and give up!) and it’s nice that people are understanding about newbies and some still learning themselves. I’ve joined groups (years ago) like yahoo groups, where everyone seems so advanced and impatient with anyone who isn’t.

I’m an older woman (family grown and gone) who discovered computers and programs a few years ago, and mainly teaching myself. I know, I’m not the only one doing this, it seems to be the new "retirement" (LOL)

"Carrie" wrote in message
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

C
Carrie
Mar 29, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Carrie" wrote in message
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it. Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group
layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it up.
I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing, and probably easier.

Thanks!

You’ve got me intrigued now.
I tried applying the fill image after creating the text mask, but I lost the mask every time I tried it.
I can see an evening of experimentation unfolding ahead of me 😉

I know what you mean.
I’ve spent many hours trying to figure something out, the last time was yesterday, someone in a Publisher Group asked about filling Word Art text (several lines) with a picture, and then moving the words/lines closer together (to have more of the picture under it show in the text) You can click and drag to make the text bigger, wider, higher, but can’t move the separate lines closer (more compact). If you create each line separatly in Word Art you can, but when it fills each lines has a separate version of the picture in it.

Before yesterday, I don’t even remember knowing you could fill word art with a graphic.

I ended up deciding it’s the font that matters, some fonts aren’t as spaced (apart) as others. The person thought (and was asking) you could adjust the spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

This is what got me to thinking about how I did it in PS, thinking if it was set up (big font, with picture fill, closer together like the person wanted) it could than be copy/pasted, or inserted (as a jpg) into Publisher (if it had to be finished there)

The person asking, ended up saying he was going to create each line of filled text with part of the picture (guessing where top, middle and bottom would be) and then paste it together.

Which seems like a complicated way.

I wish I could find where I saw the way I learned to do it, and I’m pretty sure it had the "group layer" at the end, bcause I had never noticed or used that before.

http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village

you could adjust the
spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

yes you can
FORMAT>paragraph
line spacing or right click and choose text paragraph

select the text first by highlight

never use word art so not sure about the options in it
I’ll have to go and try it. People on the Publisher group didn’t seem to have any answers, which is one reason I got into it (trying things out to see)
I hadn’t really used Word Art either till yesterday. I like the way you can use fat font and fill it with an image, though of course, we can do that with PS too.
And, I like a challenge. At least on the computer.
C
Carrie
Mar 29, 2008
It doesn’t work with Word Art, at least in Pub 2007.
The option FORMAT>paragraph is greyed out.
It works in regular text/font but you can’t fill that font with a picture. Inserting it with regular just puts it in back of the text. The person wanted several lines of words (fat font) with the picture he was using IN the font. Not in the background.
Fill options and use a picture (in the text itself)

This is the example given:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/jjb-6/Picture2.jpg

He wanted the two lines closer together, with the picture in them. If you set it up with two separate lines, the picutre repeats in each line, instead of showing overall.

I think it can be done in PS with the methods discussed in this thread..Don’t know if he has that. It could be done and copy/pasted.

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Carrie wrote:
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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it. Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group
layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it up.
I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing, and probably easier.

Thanks!

You’ve got me intrigued now.
I tried applying the fill image after creating the text mask, but I lost the mask every time I tried it.
I can see an evening of experimentation unfolding ahead of me 😉

I know what you mean.
I’ve spent many hours trying to figure something out, the last time was yesterday, someone in a Publisher Group asked about filling Word Art text (several lines) with a picture, and then moving the words/lines closer together (to have more of the picture under it show in the text) You can click and drag to make the text bigger, wider, higher, but can’t move the separate lines closer (more compact). If you create each line separatly in Word Art you can, but when it fills each lines has a separate version of the picture in it.

Before yesterday, I don’t even remember knowing you could fill word art with a graphic.

I ended up deciding it’s the font that matters, some fonts aren’t as spaced (apart) as others. The person thought (and was asking) you could adjust the spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

This is what got me to thinking about how I did it in PS, thinking if it was set up (big font, with picture fill, closer together like the person wanted) it could than be copy/pasted, or inserted (as a jpg) into Publisher (if it had to be finished there)

The person asking, ended up saying he was going to create each line of filled text with part of the picture (guessing where top, middle and bottom would be) and then paste it together.

Which seems like a complicated way.

I wish I could find where I saw the way I learned to do it, and I’m pretty sure it had the "group layer" at the end, bcause I had never noticed or used that before.

http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village

you could adjust the
spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher
and Word Art.

yes you can
FORMAT>paragraph
line spacing or right click and choose text paragraph

select the text first by highlight

never use word art so not sure about the options in it
I’ll have to go and try it. People on the Publisher group didn’t seem to have any answers, which is one reason I got into it (trying things out to see)
I hadn’t really used Word Art either till yesterday. I like the way you can use fat font and fill it with an image, though of course, we can do that with PS too.
And, I like a challenge. At least on the computer.

K
KatWoman
Mar 30, 2008
"Carrie" wrote in message
It doesn’t work with Word Art, at least in Pub 2007.
The option FORMAT>paragraph is greyed out.
It works in regular text/font but you can’t fill that font with a picture. Inserting it with regular just puts it in back of the text. The person wanted several lines of words (fat font) with the picture he was using IN the font. Not in the background.
Fill options and use a picture (in the text itself)

This is the example given:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/jjb-6/Picture2.jpg
He wanted the two lines closer together, with the picture in them. If you set it up with two separate lines, the picutre repeats in each line, instead of showing overall.

I think it can be done in PS with the methods discussed in this thread..Don’t know if he has that. It could be done and copy/pasted.

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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it. Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group
layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it up.
I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing, and probably easier.

Thanks!

You’ve got me intrigued now.
I tried applying the fill image after creating the text mask, but I lost the mask every time I tried it.
I can see an evening of experimentation unfolding ahead of me 😉

I know what you mean.
I’ve spent many hours trying to figure something out, the last time was yesterday, someone in a Publisher Group asked about filling Word Art text (several lines) with a picture, and then moving the words/lines closer together (to have more of the picture under it show in the text) You can click and drag to make the text bigger, wider, higher, but can’t move the separate lines closer (more compact). If you create each line separatly in Word Art you can, but when it fills each lines has a separate version of the picture in it.

Before yesterday, I don’t even remember knowing you could fill word art with a graphic.

I ended up deciding it’s the font that matters, some fonts aren’t as spaced (apart) as others. The person thought (and was asking) you could adjust the spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

This is what got me to thinking about how I did it in PS, thinking if it was set up (big font, with picture fill, closer together like the person wanted) it could than be copy/pasted, or inserted (as a jpg) into Publisher (if it had to be finished there)

The person asking, ended up saying he was going to create each line of filled text with part of the picture (guessing where top, middle and bottom would be) and then paste it together.

Which seems like a complicated way.

I wish I could find where I saw the way I learned to do it, and I’m pretty sure it had the "group layer" at the end, bcause I had never noticed or used that before.

http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village

you could adjust the
spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher
and Word Art.

yes you can
FORMAT>paragraph
line spacing or right click and choose text paragraph

select the text first by highlight

never use word art so not sure about the options in it
I’ll have to go and try it. People on the Publisher group didn’t seem to have any answers, which is one reason I got into it (trying things out to see)
I hadn’t really used Word Art either till yesterday. I like the way you can use fat font and fill it with an image, though of course, we can do that with PS too.
And, I like a challenge. At least on the computer.

If you make it in PS you can only import it into PUB as a graphic and it will not be editable as text
but this does seem easier to accomplish in PS
Publisher has very limited art tools
The Word Art function seems to have only best fit, that is, automatic spacing and size, by the entire text box, not line-by-line as the text tools I was unable to find a way to move the image position under the letters either (using version 2003)
C
Carrie
Mar 31, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Carrie" wrote in message
It doesn’t work with Word Art, at least in Pub 2007.
The option FORMAT>paragraph is greyed out.
It works in regular text/font but you can’t fill that font with a picture. Inserting it with regular just puts it in back of the text. The person wanted several lines of words (fat font) with the picture he was using IN the font. Not in the background.
Fill options and use a picture (in the text itself)

This is the example given:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/jjb-6/Picture2.jpg
He wanted the two lines closer together, with the picture in them. If you set it up with two separate lines, the picutre repeats in each line, instead of showing overall.

I think it can be done in PS with the methods discussed in this thread..Don’t know if he has that. It could be done and copy/pasted.

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Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the
new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it. Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group
layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

This is fairly straightforward.
Open the fill image into a new layer.
Expand the text tool by clicking the wee black arrow on the bottom right corner of the button. When you do that, you’ll see various text options, one of which is "horisontal mask text". Select this tool. Type the text. The screen will switch to a red quickmask type overlay with the text being punched out of it.
When done, select any tool other than the text tool and your text will become a marching ants outline.
Now, simply invert the selection if needed, and hit delete…

Okay, that sounds like it. I get to the red quickmask with the marching ants.
Then one step was to drag the image (photo) over the new-with text mask (marching ants) you could sort of see the text enough to line it
up.
I know it had the "group layers" as part of it, I had never heard of this, or used it before till I did this.

I don’t think I dreamed it, I have the pictures I did and saved at the time.

The ways discribed here sound like they’d end up with the same thing,
and probably easier.

Thanks!

You’ve got me intrigued now.
I tried applying the fill image after creating the text mask, but I lost the mask every time I tried it.
I can see an evening of experimentation unfolding ahead of me 😉

I know what you mean.
I’ve spent many hours trying to figure something out, the last time was yesterday, someone in a Publisher Group asked about filling Word Art text (several lines) with a picture, and then moving the words/lines closer together (to have more of the picture under it show in the text) You can click and drag to make the text bigger, wider, higher, but can’t move the separate lines closer (more compact). If you create each line separatly in Word Art you can, but when it fills each lines has a separate version of the picture in it.

Before yesterday, I don’t even remember knowing you could fill word art with a graphic.

I ended up deciding it’s the font that matters, some fonts aren’t as spaced (apart) as others. The person thought (and was asking) you could adjust the spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher and Word Art.

This is what got me to thinking about how I did it in PS, thinking if it was set up (big font, with picture fill, closer together like the person wanted) it could than be copy/pasted, or inserted (as a jpg) into Publisher (if it had to be finished there)

The person asking, ended up saying he was going to create each line of filled text with part of the picture (guessing where top, middle and bottom would be) and then paste it together.

Which seems like a complicated way.

I wish I could find where I saw the way I learned to do it, and I’m pretty sure it had the "group layer" at the end, bcause I had never noticed or used that before.

http://www.SavePentney.co.uk
The online campaign to stop the quarrying of minerals in Pentney village

you could adjust the
spacing between the lines, but apparently you can’t, at least in Publisher
and Word Art.

yes you can
FORMAT>paragraph
line spacing or right click and choose text paragraph

select the text first by highlight

never use word art so not sure about the options in it
I’ll have to go and try it. People on the Publisher group didn’t seem to have any answers, which is one reason I got into it (trying things out to see)
I hadn’t really used Word Art either till yesterday. I like the way you can use fat font and fill it with an image, though of course, we can do that with PS too.
And, I like a challenge. At least on the computer.

If you make it in PS you can only import it into PUB as a graphic and it will not be editable as text
but this does seem easier to accomplish in PS
Publisher has very limited art tools
The Word Art function seems to have only best fit, that is, automatic spacing and size, by the entire text box, not line-by-line as the text tools
I was unable to find a way to move the image position under the letters either (using version 2003)

But, don’t you enjoy a challenge? (LOL)
I like to try things and learn from them
I ended up thinking, if it’s just done in Publisher, it would mean using a font that’s already close (FATBOY was one I found)
I looked all over for font that looks like balloon writing (big round letters) and couldn’t find it. BASIC font is like that but it’s just an outline to start and won’t fill.
I’ve dabbled in learning Flash MX (probablem with this is, every version of Flash seems to be different and you have to find tutorials that go with the version you have. I have MX, and there’s MX2004 and several newer versions, too) Anyway, in Flash with text, you can write something and then get it all broken apart, so each letter is in a box and can be moved, tilted, turned upside down, etc. Not sure if it can be filled with a picture that keeps the picture intact.

I keep thinking of other things to try.

The perso did mention having an art program (photo editing) he could use.

He left it that he would break up the picture, guessing where he thought it should go (overall) and then use each part of it for fill in the Word Art Text in Publisher. Which he had thought of at the start, but asked because he thought there’s be an easier way.

I feel I learned a lot because of this. There are so many ways of doing something, sometimes just a matter of finding out what.
C
Carrie
Mar 31, 2008
It was Photoshop 7 and CS2 apparently doesn’t have the same thing.

I’ve been spending a lot of time on this, trying different ways or doing it. Trying to do it with seval lines and with CS2

I get frustrated trying to do things because I don’t really know enough about enough, but then I get bored and frustrated trying to learn it step by step from scratch, too. And there seems to be so many ways of doing the same thing.

Anyway, this is what I meant when I first asked. I was trying to recreate it the way I remembered it in CS2

http://www.insidegraphics.com

Photoshop. Lessons

Lesson 7 Group with Previous

Let us begin with the 7th lesson.

Group with previous can be used to group the object on upper layer

with the object below. This simple command produced interesting

effects can be exclusively used for titling. We will try one of such

effect in this lesson.

1. Open Photoshop 7.0

2. File > New

3. Take 500 x 500 pixels RGB mode with white background.

4. Select Type Tool, use all CAPS and type "PHOTO" on the

canvas. Take 100 point size.

5. Use thick font to get proper effect. Try Impact font if

possible.

6. The color of the font doesn’t matter in this tutorial.

7. Open C: > Program files > Adobe > Photoshop 7.0 > samples >

peppers.jpg

8. Keep both the canvases open and side by side.

9. Select Move Tool

10. Place the cursor on peppers.jpg and drag the image on Text

(PHOTO) canvas.

11. Using the same Move tool, place the image properly on the

text so that the whole text will be occupied by the image.

12. Select Layers > Group with Previous (Ctrl + G) (cmd + G for

mac)

13. This will fit the image into text.

14. You can use move tool to position the image in the text.

15. All the time, during this tutorial just make sure that the

image layer is always selected.

16. Please do not save an image.

We will try some effects based on Group with Previous command in the

next lesson.

Lesson designed by Atul Thakur

Editor

http://www.insidegraphics.com

"Carrie" wrote in message
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks
J
Joel
Apr 1, 2008
"Carrie" wrote:

<snip>
We will try some effects based on Group with Previous command in the
next lesson.

Lesson designed by Atul Thakur

It seems a little too much for a little thing. Here is few option(s) to pick.

I.

1. Load any photo you wanna use and put in lower layer

2. Type the word LOVE or HATE or whatever, then DELETE the selection and you will have the photo of lower layer popping out.

II.

1. Load the photo

2. Type the word LOVE in another layer, then turn into MASK then you have it.

You can also use Pattern, and with layer you can move, adjust etc. to whatever you want.
S
SpaceGirl
Apr 1, 2008
Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask

You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done…



x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

http://www.northleithmill.com

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Kammy has a new home: http://www.bitesizedjapan.com
C
Carrie
Apr 1, 2008
"Joel" wrote in message
"Carrie" wrote:

<snip>
We will try some effects based on Group with Previous command in the
next lesson.

Lesson designed by Atul Thakur

It seems a little too much for a little thing. Here is few option(s) to pick.

I.

1. Load any photo you wanna use and put in lower layer

2. Type the word LOVE or HATE or whatever, then DELETE the selection and you
will have the photo of lower layer popping out.

II.

1. Load the photo

2. Type the word LOVE in another layer, then turn into MASK then you have it.

You can also use Pattern, and with layer you can move, adjust etc. to whatever you want.

Thanks!
D
dvus
Apr 1, 2008
SpaceGirl wrote:

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask
You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done..

Bleah, frustrating, I never get anything other than a black screen out of these types of excercises. Of course, the earlier instructions don’t tell you which layer to keep selected until the end, and I’m not quite sure what "Click the pointer" means either. Nor does any of these tell you if you should rasterize the text at any point, or if the original image should be converted into a layer or not or…

Frustrating…


dvus
C
Carrie
Apr 2, 2008
"SpaceGirl" wrote in message
Carrie wrote:
A few years ago, not sure if it was when I still has PS 7 (I have CS2 now) I read something, in a book, or a tutorial, and played around with it for awhile. If I took notes I can’t find them and can’t find where I read it.

The way I remember it, you open a photo (graphic) make a new box (any color) use the TEXT took set in MASK and type something on the new box. It’s selected (ants running around the letters). I’ve tried this (now) also with inverting the selection, so that’s not it.
Then the picture is dragged over the text, and at some point "group layers" is clicked and the text comes out with the picture/graphic in it.

This is one I made when I was practicing it at the time (I copy/ pasted the word on a black background several times)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/bloss om_love.jpg
I think what I’m forgetting is something to set up in the layers pallette, I’ve tried dragging them in different places first.
I’ve found other ways of doing this, ended up with letters filled with the picture, but trying to remember this one way.

Thanks

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask
You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done…

Sounds good, can you move the text around at any point to get it where you want it on the graphic?
I’ve been learning Photoshop (and other programs) in my own way and time, sort of the learn as I go (come to something, want to do something, etc) way.
I haven’t done much with layers and masks. I’ve done some tutorials but when I go to remember, I forget or get confused.
There’s so darn much one can do! And, usually several ways of doing it. I’ve got so I keep notes.
Now I have to go and try this.
Thanks!



x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

http://www.northleithmill.com

-.-

Kammy has a new home: http://www.bitesizedjapan.com
C
Carrie
Apr 2, 2008
"dvus" wrote in message
SpaceGirl wrote:

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask
You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done..

Bleah, frustrating, I never get anything other than a black screen out of these types of excercises. Of course, the earlier instructions don’t tell you which layer to keep selected until the end, and I’m not quite sure what
"Click the pointer" means either. Nor does any of these tell you if you should rasterize the text at any point, or if the original image should be converted into a layer or not or…

Frustrating…

Well, I have come across some of these things, too, so at least we’re not alone.
I haven’t tried this one yet.
Seems like if something has to be rastersized a box tells you/asks you if you want to when you try and do it.

If you want to have PS seem easy try and learn Illustrator (LOL) Ive been doing that off and on for several years. I love the results of it, and maybe it’s not as complicated as it seems once you KNOW it. With PS now (after years and several versions)I almost think I know what I’m doing with some of it .

The layers and masks still can be confusing. And when something you want to do is greyed out (sometimes selecting something changes it)

dvus
C
Carrie
Apr 2, 2008
"SpaceGirl" wrote in message

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask
You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done…

I did it, got it to work (I like how you can move around the TEXT on the picture with this way) got to the ants, and hit delete and nothing happened.

I tried inverting it, and copy/paste (it pasted but with BLACK letters not the picture)

I tried putting the layers together at the end too.

LIke dvus wrote in this thread, it doesn’t always work the way it sounds.

Also, when I hit F (fill) it kind of openned the screen up but I didn’t see any black. Is it suposed to go over the picture? Once when I tried it it changed the screen in BACK of the picture black.

In the layer palette it had the new layer on top and the photo one under it.

Everything else worked like you said.



x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

http://www.northleithmill.com

-.-

Kammy has a new home: http://www.bitesizedjapan.com
J
Joel
Apr 2, 2008
"Carrie" wrote:

<snip>
Well, I have come across some of these things, too, so at least we’re not alone.
I haven’t tried this one yet.
Seems like if something has to be rastersized a box tells you/asks you if you want to when you try and do it.

If you want to have PS seem easy try and learn Illustrator (LOL) Ive been doing that off and on for several years. I love the results of it, and maybe it’s not as complicated as it seems once you KNOW it. With PS now (after years and several versions)I almost think I know what I’m doing with some of it .

The layers and masks still can be confusing. And when something you want to do is greyed out (sometimes selecting something changes it)

I would suggest all Photoshop users to spend few weeks/months on layer and masking as they are the tools you may not want to go without. Or I use layers and mask on 90-98+% on my photoshoping.
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dvus
Apr 2, 2008
Carrie wrote:
"SpaceGirl" wrote in message

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask
You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done…

I did it, got it to work (I like how you can move around the TEXT on the picture with this way) got to the ants, and hit delete and nothing happened.

I tried inverting it, and copy/paste (it pasted but with BLACK letters not the picture)

I tried putting the layers together at the end too.

LIke dvus wrote in this thread, it doesn’t always work the way it sounds.

<sigh…>, yet I’ll bet it works fine for most of the folks in here. I think I must have a mental block.

Also, when I hit F (fill) it kind of openned the screen up but I didn’t see any black. Is it suposed to go over the picture? Once when I tried it it changed the screen in BACK of the picture black.

Yeah, "f" toggles through the screen formats, <SHIFT+F5> performs the EDIT>FILL command.

In the layer palette it had the new layer on top and the photo one under it.

Everything else worked like you said.

I believe what’s being attempted is creation of a "clipping" path which performs sort of a cookie-cutter operation on an image based on another, overlaid image selection. I was able to do it by reading an old Photoshop Wow! book years ago, but the proper steps elude my ancient brain today. I’m sure most of the pros in here can do it in their sleep, but it’s one of the (many) operations I can’t seem to force my mind to wrap itself around.

I think part of the problem stems from some instructions having steps written for those already knowing how an operation is done. One misleading direction can screw up everything that follows, and even if you experiment and finally are successful you can forget how you arrived at the end.

Tell you what, I’m gonna search through my dusty archives (the big pile of stuff in the corner) and find that Wow! book and the explanation for this operation. Then, if no one has beaten me to it, I’ll write out the steps in a way I guarantee you’ll grasp easily. You can return the favor on the next mystery, if you like.


dvus
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KatWoman
Apr 2, 2008
"Carrie" wrote in message
"dvus" wrote in message
SpaceGirl wrote:

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask
You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done..

Bleah, frustrating, I never get anything other than a black screen out of these types of excercises. Of course, the earlier instructions don’t tell you which layer to keep selected until the end, and I’m not quite sure what
"Click the pointer" means either. Nor does any of these tell you if you should rasterize the text at any point, or if the original image should be
converted into a layer or not or…

Frustrating…

Well, I have come across some of these things, too, so at least we’re not alone.
I haven’t tried this one yet.
Seems like if something has to be rastersized a box tells you/asks you if you want to when you try and do it.

If you want to have PS seem easy try and learn Illustrator (LOL) Ive been doing that off and on for several years. I love the results of it, and maybe it’s not as complicated as it seems once you KNOW it. With PS now (after years and several versions)I almost think I know what I’m doing with some of it .

The layers and masks still can be confusing. And when something you want to do is greyed out (sometimes selecting something changes it)

dvus

Carrie Carrie
OK the reason your method is obsolete is that newer BETTER tools have been created to do the type thing since version 7
no grouping needed, no convoluted ways to make this
what is confusing is trying to do things the old way that are no longer necessary

SO

everyone please use the flyout on your TEXT TOOL
it has a STYLE that creates the selection as you type
to manipulate spacing, kerning, size, proportions of the letters etc click the palette for the text tool

there is a whole LOAD of options for type styles if you click f at bottom of layer palette (drop shadows, bevel, etc)

any selection can be made into a mask by clicking the little icon at the bottom of layer palette, (or inverse selection and then make the mask) the image under the type layer is on it’s own layer can be modified as you choose, transformed, moved etc

or as stated previously
the text selection can be filled with any fill option (EDIT>FILL) gradient, solid color, pattern, paste into, etc

not sure if warp text will work on selection text without rasterizing but worth trying
if you rasterize type you can use any filter to distort it
C
Carrie
Apr 4, 2008
"Joel" wrote in message
"Carrie" wrote:

<snip>
Well, I have come across some of these things, too, so at least we’re not
alone.
I haven’t tried this one yet.
Seems like if something has to be rastersized a box tells you/asks you if
you want to when you try and do it.

If you want to have PS seem easy try and learn Illustrator (LOL) Ive been
doing that off and on for several years. I love the results of it, and maybe
it’s not as complicated as it seems once you KNOW it. With PS now (after years and several versions)I almost think I know what I’m doing with some of
it .

The layers and masks still can be confusing. And when something you want
to do is greyed out (sometimes selecting something changes it)

I would suggest all Photoshop users to spend few weeks/months on layer and masking as they are the tools you may not want to go without. Or I use layers and mask on 90-98+% on my photoshoping.

That’s a good idea.
I got kind of sidetracked from this newsgroup for a day or so, for one thing the posts I’d write wouldn’t send (I’m using a free ng server I can’t complain) I know there’s a google version of it somewhere, too. I need to stop and clean off my computer table and get all my notes in one place, too.
C
Carrie
Apr 4, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Carrie" wrote in message
"dvus" wrote in message
SpaceGirl wrote:

Quickest way, takes about 5 seconds end to end:

Load picture.

Add new layer over the top. Fill (f) that black.

Press Q to get into quick mask.

Press T to get the text tool.

Write your text.

Click the pointer and then press Q to get out of quick mask
You now have the outline of the text in marching ants.

Press backspace (or delete)

Done..

Bleah, frustrating, I never get anything other than a black screen out of
these types of excercises. Of course, the earlier instructions don’t tell
you which layer to keep selected until the end, and I’m not quite sure what
"Click the pointer" means either. Nor does any of these tell you if you should rasterize the text at any point, or if the original image should be
converted into a layer or not or…

Frustrating…

Well, I have come across some of these things, too, so at least we’re not alone.
I haven’t tried this one yet.
Seems like if something has to be rastersized a box tells you/asks you if you want to when you try and do it.

If you want to have PS seem easy try and learn Illustrator (LOL) Ive been doing that off and on for several years. I love the results of it, and maybe it’s not as complicated as it seems once you KNOW it. With PS now (after years and several versions)I almost think I know what I’m doing with some of it .

The layers and masks still can be confusing. And when something you want to do is greyed out (sometimes selecting something changes it)

dvus

Carrie Carrie
OK the reason your method is obsolete is that newer BETTER tools have been created to do the type thing since version 7
no grouping needed, no convoluted ways to make this
what is confusing is trying to do things the old way that are no longer necessary

Yes, I agree. Part of the reason I wanted to know how to do it was because I kind of remembered it, but couldn’t quite. It was one of those "the idea of it" things, it’s was bugging me. (LOL)
SO

everyone please use the flyout on your TEXT TOOL
it has a STYLE that creates the selection as you type
to manipulate spacing, kerning, size, proportions of the letters etc click the palette for the text tool

there is a whole LOAD of options for type styles if you click f at bottom of layer palette (drop shadows, bevel, etc)

any selection can be made into a mask by clicking the little icon at the bottom of layer palette, (or inverse selection and then make the mask) the image under the type layer is on it’s own layer can be modified as you choose, transformed, moved etc

or as stated previously
the text selection can be filled with any fill option (EDIT>FILL) gradient, solid color, pattern, paste into, etc

not sure if warp text will work on selection text without rasterizing but worth trying
if you rasterize type you can use any filter to distort it

More notes, I need to get all this organized.
Hopefully the posts will send tonight, I found a bunch just sitting in my in box.

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