PNG Not Transparent in IE

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Jul 1, 2008
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Building a web page with some .PNG images so I can have irregular border images.

They look fine in the page editor and in Firefox but opening them with IE 6.0 and the transparent rectangular border shows up as white?

Any ideas?

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Grinder
Jul 1, 2008
Chris Darwin wrote:
Building a web page with some .PNG images so I can have irregular border images.

They look fine in the page editor and in Firefox but opening them with IE 6.0 and the transparent rectangular border shows up as white?
Any ideas?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1645331,00.asp
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Tacit
Jul 1, 2008
In article ,
Chris Darwin wrote:

They look fine in the page editor and in Firefox but opening them with IE 6.0 and the transparent rectangular border shows up as white?

Correct.

Internet Explorer’s support for PNG sucks. It’s part of the reason PNG never took off as a file format.


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OM
Jul 2, 2008
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:32:12 -0700, Chris Darwin
wrote:

Building a web page with some .PNG images so I can have irregular border images.

They look fine in the page editor and in Firefox but opening them with IE 6.0 and the transparent rectangular border shows up as white?
Any ideas?

….Micro$oft Internet Explorer has always had a problem with supporting transparency in .PNG files. M$ promised full support for the format, but when they released the first version of IE to support it – 5.5, IIRC – transparency wasn’t supported. Since then, there’s been a lot of screaming and yelling at M$ to get them to fix this, but it seems the louder we scream, the deafer they get. The closest they’ve gotten was to issue a couple of tech bulletins, one advises to reduce the color pallet to 256 colors, the second uses some XML call to Direct-X to force Alpha Channel support:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;265221

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms532969.aspx

….Since then, there’s been a couple of ubergeeks who’ve developed their own workarounds in HTML and Javascript:

Drew McLellan:
http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6

Bob Osola:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/

….I’ve tried Bob’s before, but I’ve had some users on one of my pro websites complain about their browsers locking up when they actually try to move the .PNG around – not that I want them to, but the fix allows for it. And since I don’t want *or* need the images to be movable by the user, I simply resort to the OM fix:

OM:
Just use JPGs and GIFs, knowing full well that any company that tries to claim they own either standard *and* want -any- $$$ now, after all this time, can not only cram their extortion demands up their collective corporate asses, anyone who uses the Web will probably be glad to donate jars of Vasoline or tubes of K-Y to help with the insertion process.

….Anyway, hope this helps, but again keep in mind that since the majority of internet users use IE, although PNG might be a better format, if it’s a flag raised that IE won’t salute, it’s probably better that you stick with a format that it will, such as JPG or GIF, and address whether or not you really need transparent backgrounds for the image.

OM

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John J
Jul 2, 2008
How typical of Micro$oft to buy PowerPoint which exports PNGs for web rendering and uses IE to view them. It’s like wearing a sign that says, "Gotcha, Sucker!"
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Voivod
Jul 2, 2008
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:07:27 -0500, John scribbled:

How typical of Micro$oft to buy PowerPoint which exports PNGs for web rendering and uses IE to view them. It’s like wearing a sign that says, "Gotcha, Sucker!"

No, it’s more like strapping an industrial sized tube of lube to your back while dancing naked in a gay pride parade and wondering why your ass hurts the next morning…

If you don’t want to get fucked in the ass (by Microsoft) don’t lube up: Don’t use IE, there’s alternatives
Don’t run Windows. Try Linux or;
Buy a Mac or;
Don’t use PNGs (dear fucking god the world won’t end)
PNGs suck anyhow
Get fucking over it.
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KatWoman
Jul 2, 2008
"OM" wrote in message
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:32:12 -0700, Chris Darwin
wrote:

Building a web page with some .PNG images so I can have irregular border images.

They look fine in the page editor and in Firefox but opening them with IE 6.0 and the transparent rectangular border shows up as white?
Any ideas?

…Micro$oft Internet Explorer has always had a problem with supporting transparency in .PNG files. M$ promised full support for the format, but when they released the first version of IE to support it – 5.5, IIRC – transparency wasn’t supported. Since then, there’s been a lot of screaming and yelling at M$ to get them to fix this, but it seems the louder we scream, the deafer they get. The closest they’ve gotten was to issue a couple of tech bulletins, one advises to reduce the color pallet to 256 colors, the second uses some XML call to Direct-X to force Alpha Channel support:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;265221

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms532969.aspx

…Since then, there’s been a couple of ubergeeks who’ve developed their own workarounds in HTML and Javascript:

Drew McLellan:
http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6
Bob Osola:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/

…I’ve tried Bob’s before, but I’ve had some users on one of my pro websites complain about their browsers locking up when they actually try to move the .PNG around – not that I want them to, but the fix allows for it. And since I don’t want *or* need the images to be movable by the user, I simply resort to the OM fix:

OM:
Just use JPGs and GIFs, knowing full well that any company that tries to claim they own either standard *and* want -any- $$$ now, after all this time, can not only cram their extortion demands up their collective corporate asses, anyone who uses the Web will probably be glad to donate jars of Vasoline or tubes of K-Y to help with the insertion process.

…Anyway, hope this helps, but again keep in mind that since the majority of internet users use IE, although PNG might be a better format, if it’s a flag raised that IE won’t salute, it’s probably better that you stick with a format that it will, such as JPG or GIF, and address whether or not you really need transparent backgrounds for the image.

OM
the latest version of IE (7) does view png with alpha preserved cause I am using it and I see them correctly
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OM
Jul 3, 2008
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:04:13 -0400, Voivod wrote:

Get fucking over it.

<PLONK>

OM

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Voivod
Jul 3, 2008
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:48:04 -0500, OM
scribbled:

On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:04:13 -0400, Voivod wrote:

Get fucking over it.

<PLONK>

OH NO! My life as I knew it is OVER!

Some fucktard typed "<PLONK>"!

Whatever shall I do?! I cannot go on without your… wait, am I supposed to give a rats ass? Sorry…

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