how much memory for using Photoshop ?

"Bernard Cordier" wrote in message

Hi,
My daughter uses Photoshop CS2 with a A5 Wacom pen tablet. She draws large images like 6000 * 6000 px or more. Her PC is a Dell Dimension 5150 with a
2.4 GHZ processor and 2 GO RAM, which sounds comfortable enough to me.
However, working in that conditions turns out to be very slow. What would be the necessary power to work with comfort on a very large image with Photoshop?
Thanks.

—
Bernard Cordier
Ressources STG : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/bernard.cordier Pyrrha Naja : http://cordier.juliette.free.fr/

before spending on a new comp

have you tried adding some extra drives??
and making sure the primary scratch drive is not set to the C drive??

look under options to set that
PS is more dependent on having drive space unless she is doing filters or other mathematical processes that require chip speed

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:13:39 +0200, Bernard Cordier wrote:

My daughter uses Photoshop CS2 with a A5 Wacom pen tablet. She draws large images like 6000 * 6000 px or more.

Not totally unreasonable, though memory use can escalate rapidly if she uses layers and masks. I would try to talk her into a tiny 3K x 3K image, followed by a resize up to her final desired dimensions.

Her PC is a Dell Dimension 5150 with a
2.4 GHZ processor and 2 GO RAM, which sounds comfortable enough to me. However, working in that conditions turns out to be very slow. What would be the necessary power to work with comfort on a very large image with Photoshop?

Odds are the disk light is flashing during this sluggishness, so the first place to start is memory. Start by adjusting Photoshop’s memory slider to 70 percent or more. I wouldn’t be surprised if your unit came with four 512 MB sticks, which will all need to be replaced (sell them on eBay). Upgrade to 4 GB. At current memory prices, four 1GB sticks is between $150 and $210 at www.satech.com . You’ll get some benefit going to 3GB, but you won’t directly use all four gigs of memory unless you go to XP pro (and use the /3GB boot.ini switch, or Vista.

A faster drive will help with startup time, but it is not a replacement for more memory. An internal SATA drive for swap and images, or a USB2 or firewire external will help in this regard. For even more performance, go to RAID with multiple internal drives. Keep in mind this is mainly starup, not so much performance during a draw operation.

It’s conceivable, but unlikely, that a faster video card will help. Maybe someone else will chime in on that one.
—
Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:26:20 -0700, Mike Russell
scribbled:

Upgrade to 4 GB

Don’t. Unless you’re running a 64bit version of Windows you won’t see the full four gigs, upgrade to three and save the money you’d waste on bad advice.

"Bernard Cordier" wrote:

Hi,
My daughter uses Photoshop CS2 with a A5 Wacom pen tablet. She draws large images like 6000 * 6000 px or more. Her PC is a Dell Dimension 5150 with a
2.4 GHZ processor and 2 GO RAM, which sounds comfortable enough to me.
However, working in that conditions turns out to be very slow. What would be the necessary power to work with comfort on a very large image with Photoshop?
Thanks.

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI). Both my laptop and desktop have 4GB and the desktop doing fine with 12MP image (I don’t have CS3 installed on laptop).

My grand-daughter uses CS3 on her Laptop, Vista with 2GB memory and she thinks it’s ok (she upgraded from 1GB cuz she said it was too slow).

And for your daughter, here is few things you may try.

– 2GB should be ok, but you can upgrade to 3-4GB to speed thing up a little. The memory is so cheap these days.

– Make sure to have plenty of Disk Space for swapping.

Mike Russell wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:13:39 +0200, Bernard Cordier wrote:

My daughter uses Photoshop CS2 with a A5 Wacom pen tablet. She draws large images like 6000 * 6000 px or more.

Not totally unreasonable, though memory use can escalate rapidly if she uses layers and masks. I would try to talk her into a tiny 3K x 3K image, followed by a resize up to her final desired dimensions.

Her PC is a Dell Dimension 5150 with a
2.4 GHZ processor and 2 GO RAM, which sounds comfortable enough to me. However, working in that conditions turns out to be very slow. What would be the necessary power to work with comfort on a very large image with Photoshop?

Odds are the disk light is flashing during this sluggishness, so the first place to start is memory. Start by adjusting Photoshop’s memory slider to 70 percent or more. I wouldn’t be surprised if your unit came with four 512 MB sticks, which will all need to be replaced (sell them on eBay). Upgrade to 4 GB. At current memory prices, four 1GB sticks is between $150 and $210 at www.satech.com . You’ll get some benefit going to 3GB, but you won’t directly use all four gigs of memory unless you go to XP pro (and use the /3GB boot.ini switch, or Vista.

Hmmm what kind of memory are you talking about?

Desktop DDR
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=147 &name=Desktop-Memory

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=17&na me=Memory

A faster drive will help with startup time, but it is not a replacement for more memory. An internal SATA drive for swap and images, or a USB2 or firewire external will help in this regard. For even more performance, go to RAID with multiple internal drives. Keep in mind this is mainly starup, not so much performance during a draw operation.

It’s conceivable, but unlikely, that a faster video card will help. Maybe someone else will chime in on that one.

In article ,
Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Sure it does. A 6000×6000 image is 103 MB if it’s RGB, and 137 MB if it’s CMYK. PPI makes no difference.

2 GB of RAM is OK, if a little tight, for comfortably working on images that size. The biggest bottleneck, though, is likely to be hard drive speed.

More RAM and a faster hard drive will help.

—
Photography, kink, polyamory, shareware, and more: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

Thanks to all.

Bernard

Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Uh oh. You are gonna get spanked for that.

My computer has 1.10 gigabites of memory how ever it does not longer work with image ready from Photoshop or as a stand alone application. It freezes up or call it the application is not responding.
Kurt Knoll.

"John" wrote in message

Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Uh oh. You are gonna get spanked for that.

tacit wrote:

In article ,
Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Sure it does. A 6000×6000 image is 103 MB if it’s RGB, and 137 MB if it’s CMYK. PPI makes no difference.

No it isn’t! and Yes, PPI makes the BIG difference.

2 GB of RAM is OK, if a little tight, for comfortably working on images that size. The biggest bottleneck, though, is likely to be hard drive speed.

More RAM and a faster hard drive will help.

John wrote:

Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Uh oh. You are gonna get spanked for that.

Yup! I already spranked lot of people on this before.

Joel wrote:

tacit wrote:

In article ,
Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Sure it does. A 6000×6000 image is 103 MB if it’s RGB, and 137 MB if it’s CMYK. PPI makes no difference.

No it isn’t! and Yes, PPI makes the BIG difference.

Oh grasshopper, you have much to learn.

Joel wrote:

John wrote:

Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Uh oh. You are gonna get spanked for that.

Yup! I already spranked lot of people on this before.

And you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Sad that after all these years some choose to be willfuly ignorant.

John wrote:

Joel wrote:

tacit wrote:

In article ,
Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Sure it does. A 6000×6000 image is 103 MB if it’s RGB, and 137 MB if it’s CMYK. PPI makes no difference.

No it isn’t! and Yes, PPI makes the BIG difference.

Oh grasshopper, you have much to learn.

Thanks and that’s what I have been doing. And I hjope you will start your first lesson soon <bg>

John wrote:

Joel wrote:

John wrote:

Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Uh oh. You are gonna get spanked for that.

Yup! I already spranked lot of people on this before.

And you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Sad that after all these years some choose to be willfuly ignorant.

You haven’t learned your first lesson yet <bg>

"tacit" wrote in message

In article ,
Joel wrote:

6000×6000 isn’t that big (and doesn’t mean much without the PPI).

Sure it does. A 6000×6000 image is 103 MB if it’s RGB, and 137 MB if it’s CMYK. PPI makes no difference.

2 GB of RAM is OK, if a little tight, for comfortably working on images that size. The biggest bottleneck, though, is likely to be hard drive speed.

More RAM and a faster hard drive will help.

—
Photography, kink, polyamory, shareware, and more: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

tacit
did you see the work she does??
would not a vector prog like Illy be a better choice for that type work??

Joel wrote:

Thanks and that’s what I have been doing. And I hjope you will start your first lesson soon <bg>

OK, so how ‘big’ is a 100×100 pixel RGB image at 72, 150, 300, 1200PPI?

Answer: It is 100×100 pixels.

End of your lesson. Get it?

John wrote:

Joel wrote:

Thanks and that’s what I have been doing. And I hjope you will start your first lesson soon <bg>

OK, so how ‘big’ is a 100×100 pixel RGB image at 72, 150, 300, 1200PPI?
Answer: It is 100×100 pixels.

Now you are talking! you read your first lesson but still incapable of learning.

End of your lesson. Get it?

If you have your lesson learned else it may not even begun <bg>

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:55:10 -0500, Joel wrote:

Yup! I already spranked lot of people on this before.

Like your father’s monkey?

wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:55:10 -0500, Joel wrote:

Yup! I already spranked lot of people on this before.

Like your father’s monkey?

You must be mistaken your grandpa with the monkey then? or mitaken the money with your grandpa?

Heck they are both same specie <bg>