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Fri, 09 January 2009 16:40 Go to next message
rdoc2 (Photoshop expert)
Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.
I prefer an ASUS motherboard and I don't need a monitor or a keyboard
and a mouse.
I need advice on what motherboard and chipset?
I will get two Seagate 1.5 TB Sata hard drives.
I down know what audio and video cards to get?
I assume I need 2GB of 1066 RAM.
2 DVD LG Burners
700 Watt Power Supply
I would like to find a tower case that is 25.5 inches high or a little
less.
I can build it or get it built locally and I can buy the parts.
Maybe someone here can answer my above questions or give my some
suggestions I would appreciate that very much. Thanks
Fri, 09 January 2009 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
akphotog (Advanced Photoshop user)
computers have come along way. You could go down and buy a decent laptop at
Best Buy for $800 that will do the job.
If you REALLY need to build your own, just build one online on the dell
website and mimic the components.
4 gigs of ram and a decent processor and you are good to go.


"RDOC" <rdoc2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:589aaecf-12a3-4732-99bc-ce1249048147@n10g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
> building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
> for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.
> I prefer an ASUS motherboard and I don't need a monitor or a keyboard
> and a mouse.
> I need advice on what motherboard and chipset?
> I will get two Seagate 1.5 TB Sata hard drives.
> I down know what audio and video cards to get?
> I assume I need 2GB of 1066 RAM.
> 2 DVD LG Burners
> 700 Watt Power Supply
> I would like to find a tower case that is 25.5 inches high or a little
> less.
> I can build it or get it built locally and I can buy the parts.
> Maybe someone here can answer my above questions or give my some
> suggestions I would appreciate that very much. Thanks
Fri, 09 January 2009 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jaSPAMc (Photoshop expert)
However Dull will sock you an additional $150 to get XP-Pro, OTW you'll have
to suffer speed penalty with Hassle La Vista.


"tweaked_eye" <nospam@spammersuck.com> found these unused words:

>computers have come along way. You could go down and buy a decent laptop at
>Best Buy for $800 that will do the job.
>If you REALLY need to build your own, just build one online on the dell
>website and mimic the components.
>4 gigs of ram and a decent processor and you are good to go.
>
>
>"RDOC" <rdoc2@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:589aaecf-12a3-4732-99bc-ce1249048147@n10g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
>> building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
>> for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.
>> I prefer an ASUS motherboard and I don't need a monitor or a keyboard
>> and a mouse.
>> I need advice on what motherboard and chipset?
>> I will get two Seagate 1.5 TB Sata hard drives.
>> I down know what audio and video cards to get?
>> I assume I need 2GB of 1066 RAM.
>> 2 DVD LG Burners
>> 700 Watt Power Supply
>> I would like to find a tower case that is 25.5 inches high or a little
>> less.
>> I can build it or get it built locally and I can buy the parts.
>> Maybe someone here can answer my above questions or give my some
>> suggestions I would appreciate that very much. Thanks
>
Fri, 09 January 2009 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Voivod (Photoshop expert)
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:40:41 -0800 (PST), RDOC <rdoc2@comcast.net>
scribbled:

>I assume I need 2GB of 1066 RAM.

You'll want as much RAM as (1) the board and OS can address and (2) you
can afford.
Sat, 10 January 2009 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John J (Photoshop expert)
RDOC wrote:
> Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
> building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
> for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.

Yes. Adobe!

http://www.iofilm.co.uk/io/mit/001/adobe_production_studio_s ystem_requirements.php
Sat, 10 January 2009 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
keepout (Photoshop expert)
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:40:41 -0800 (PST), RDOC <rdoc2@comcast.net> wrote:

>Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
>building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
>for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.
>I prefer an ASUS motherboard and I don't need a monitor or a keyboard
>and a mouse.
>I need advice on what motherboard and chipset?
>I will get two Seagate 1.5 TB Sata hard drives.
>I down know what audio and video cards to get?
>I assume I need 2GB of 1066 RAM.
>2 DVD LG Burners
>700 Watt Power Supply
>I would like to find a tower case that is 25.5 inches high or a little
>less.
>I can build it or get it built locally and I can buy the parts.
>Maybe someone here can answer my above questions or give my some
>suggestions I would appreciate that very much. Thanks

how pro do you want to go ?
here's a link to a setup that'll have you drooling all year or until you can
afford it.
yes he said 16 tera bytes in a raid config.
>
>Bert celebrates the 100th episode of PixelPerfect with a tour of his Berkeley Hills Studio - where all the magic is made.
>
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcas t?id=215218712
you want to get the 100th episode, and the high quality program. It comes in 2
flavors, but the smaller version is too small to see any detail in full screen.
Like watching thru a fog filter.

He does his work with the wacom tablet, and PS on Apple machines.
Not everything requires a windows machine. You can thank Adobe and Wacom for
that.
Sat, 10 January 2009 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John J (Photoshop expert)
John J wrote:
> RDOC wrote:
>> Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
>> building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
>> for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.
>
> Yes. Adobe!
>
> http://www.iofilm.co.uk/io/mit/001/adobe_production_studio_s ystem_requirements.php

I messed up! That's an obsolete link. It won't help much with CS4.
Sat, 10 January 2009 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
adykes (Photoshop expert)
In article <7MP9l.98$1L3.34@newsfe20.iad>,
tweaked_eye <nospam@spammersuck.com> wrote:
>computers have come along way. You could go down and buy a decent laptop at
>Best Buy for $800 that will do the job.
>If you REALLY need to build your own, just build one online on the dell
>website and mimic the components.
>4 gigs of ram and a decent processor and you are good to go.
>

What level of Photoshop is planned? For someone touching up and
printing jpegs from a 14MP camera, any modern computer will do.

For someone using a 24MP camera in 12 bit RAW and making PSD files
with lots of layers, the sky is the limit. Several fast disks are
called for. High-volume commercial work could also make one go in this
direction. A dual-processor system is called for. Beyond 2 CPUs, you
need to read the fine print on how many CPUs your operating system
supports. (Does the cheapest VISTA support more than one CPU?, XP
supports 2.)

PS4 can use "better" video cards for very fast filter commutation if
the card implements a standard called "OpenGL2.0" and has at least
512MB memory. Read the specs for the card. If they do, it will say. I
don't think you have to spend more than $100 to get this.

Two disks are needed for PS. Fast ones, SATA 7200 RPM. I doubt there
is a slower SATA disk. Three would be nice and 10kprm disks as well
but power and cooling and noise need to get proper attention for that.

32 Bit windows doesn't use all of a 4GB memory chip set for technical
reasons Save some money and stick with 3GB. Spend the money on
something else.

Don't go nuts on memory on the video card above 512MB unless you know
why.

--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
Sat, 10 January 2009 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jaSPAMc (Photoshop expert)
keepout@yahoo.com.invalid found these unused words:


>He does his work with the wacom tablet, and PS on Apple machines.
>Not everything requires a windows machine. You can thank Adobe and Wacom for
>that.

WACOM makes computers and/or operating systems?
Sat, 10 January 2009 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joel (Photoshop expert)
RDOC <rdoc2@comcast.net> wrote:

<snip>
> Maybe someone here can answer my above questions or give my some
> suggestions I would appreciate that very much. Thanks

Comouter is dirt cheap these days, so just go for the top-notch and forget
all minor stuffs.

- Replacing the older/slower with a newer and faster momboard and CPU

- Shop for the momboard supports at least 4-8GB memory (I would go for 8GB)
and pop-in around 4GB to start with.

- Replacing the small hard drive with at least 1 500GB or 1GB. Or several
1GB drives you do. My current system has around 3TG

That's it! and see I don't care to quite the other part as I don't think
it's too important for me to care.
Sun, 11 January 2009 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Voivod (Photoshop expert)
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:22:19 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> scribbled:

>- Replacing the small hard drive with at least 1 500GB or 1GB. Or several
>1GB drives you do. My current system has around 3TG

Do you have ANY idea what you're talking about or are you just prattling
complete nonsense in the hope that no one notices you're an idiot?
Sun, 11 January 2009 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob (Photoshop expert)
Voivod wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:22:19 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> scribbled:
>
>> - Replacing the small hard drive with at least 1 500GB or 1GB. Or several
>> 1GB drives you do. My current system has around 3TG
>
> Do you have ANY idea what you're talking about or are you just prattling
> complete nonsense in the hope that no one notices you're an idiot?
>

I have noticed it on several occasions - whats new!
Sun, 11 January 2009 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toby (Photoshop expert)
On Jan 9, 4:40 pm, RDOC <rd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
> building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
> for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.

http://store.apple.com
Thu, 15 January 2009 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Benny (Advanced Photoshop user)
"RDOC" <rdoc2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:589aaecf-12a3-4732-99bc-ce1249048147@n10g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
> building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
> for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.
> I prefer an ASUS motherboard and I don't need a monitor or a keyboard
> and a mouse.
> I need advice on what motherboard and chipset?
> I will get two Seagate 1.5 TB Sata hard drives.
> I down know what audio and video cards to get?
> I assume I need 2GB of 1066 RAM.
> 2 DVD LG Burners
> 700 Watt Power Supply
> I would like to find a tower case that is 25.5 inches high or a little
> less.
> I can build it or get it built locally and I can buy the parts.
> Maybe someone here can answer my above questions or give my some
> suggestions I would appreciate that very much. Thanks
>

RDOC
Just been through this process and collected my new PC last week.
Photoshop CS4 and Bridge opens in 2 - 3 seconds - very fast compared to my
previous 4 year old PC.

Withe regard to RAM. Tests have shown that PS improves by 40% when going
from 1Gb to 2Gb of RAM. Anything above that is very negilible. Also a decent
512Mb graphics card should fit the bill - must have OpenGL 2.0. I ended up
with a 1Gb because the 512Mb card I wanted wasn't available - only $30 more
anyway.

Also tests show that, at the moment, there is no speed difference between
top-end Duo 2 core CPUs and Quadcore CPUs.

With this in mind the final spec for my new PC reads as follows:

Intel ATX E8500 Core 2 duo/3.16GHz etc
Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R FSB1600 motherboard
2 x 1Gb Corsair PC-10600 DDR3 RAM sticks (you could go for 4Gb DDR2 for
about the same price and performance). Remember XP Pro only sees about 3GB
anyway.
Gigabyte GF9600GT 1Gb graphics/video card (takes up 2 slots)
2 x 640 GB Western Digital harddrives (not RAIDed) - second HD for backup
etc
Antec Sonata III Minitower with 500W PSU
Microsoft XP Pro (Vista is a lot slower)

This cost me $1600 Australian dollars - which is very cheap over here.

Also bought a Samsung 2243BWX LCD monitor to replace an old Mitsubishi 17"
CRT. Couldn't afford anything fancier for photo work (at the monet) so will
not know how good it is until I start image work. If you have the money the
Dell 2408 is good value for what you get. It was AUD400 dearer though than
the Samsung.

Hope this helps

Benny
Thu, 15 January 2009 23:55 Go to previous message
rdoc2 (Photoshop expert)
On Jan 15, 7:03 am, "Benny" <po...@spam.com> wrote:
> "RDOC" <rd...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:589aaecf-12a3-4732-99bc-ce1249048147@n10g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Is there a site that I can find out or get a list of components for
> > building a computer for doing a lot of Photoshop work on and using it
> > for a lot of multi tasking and spreadsheet work.
> > I prefer an ASUS motherboard and I don't need a monitor or a keyboard
> > and a mouse.
> > I need advice on what motherboard and chipset?
> > I will get two Seagate 1.5 TB Sata hard drives.
> > I down know what audio and video cards to get?
> > I assume I need 2GB of 1066 RAM.
> > 2 DVD LG Burners
> > 700 Watt Power Supply
> > I would like to find a tower case that is 25.5 inches high or a little
> > less.
> > I can build it or get it built locally and I can buy the parts.
> > Maybe someone here can answer my above questions or give my some
> > suggestions I would appreciate that very much. Thanks
>
> RDOC
> Just been through this process and collected my new PC last week.
> Photoshop CS4 and Bridge opens in 2 - 3 seconds - very fast compared to my
> previous 4 year old PC.
>
> Withe regard to RAM. Tests have shown that PS improves by 40% when going
> from 1Gb to 2Gb of RAM. Anything above that is very negilible. Also a decent
> 512Mb graphics card should fit the bill - must have OpenGL 2.0. I ended up
> with a 1Gb because the 512Mb card I wanted wasn't available - only $30 more
> anyway.
>
> Also tests show that, at the moment, there is no speed difference between
> top-end Duo 2 core CPUs and Quadcore CPUs.
>
> With this in mind the final spec for my new PC reads as follows:
>
> Intel ATX E8500 Core 2 duo/3.16GHz etc
> Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R FSB1600 motherboard
> 2 x 1Gb Corsair PC-10600 DDR3 RAM sticks (you could go for 4Gb DDR2 for
> about the same price and performance). Remember XP Pro only sees about 3GB
> anyway.
> Gigabyte GF9600GT 1Gb graphics/video card (takes up 2 slots)
> 2 x 640 GB Western Digital harddrives (not RAIDed) - second HD for backup
> etc
> Antec Sonata III Minitower with 500W PSU
> Microsoft XP Pro (Vista is a lot slower)
>
> This cost me $1600 Australian dollars - which is very cheap over here.
>
> Also bought a Samsung 2243BWX LCD monitor to replace an old Mitsubishi 17"
> CRT. Couldn't afford anything fancier for photo work (at the monet) so will
> not know how good it is until I start image work. If you have the money the
> Dell 2408 is good value for what you get. It was AUD400 dearer though than
> the Samsung.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Benny

Thanks Benny
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