Very Slow CS2 — Have I done everything possible?

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Rob_Woods
May 6, 2005
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Please.

I’ve looked over the two threads on sluggish (mine is really very slow vs. PS7.01, especially in painting the screen) CS2. I’ve tried to do everything suggested — all to no help. Can anyone suggest something more (short of a new machine)? Would a faster/bigger video card help? Many thanks in advance.

What I’ve done: (a) defrag disks (b) reset preferences (c) adjusted PS memory (d) set win paging to 4Gb [2xinstalled memory) (e) latest video card driver (f) hide info pallate.

My machine has four printers drivers: HP LJ1000, Canon i960, 2 virtual drivers. It also has 2 TWAIN drivers.

PS gives the following system info:
Adobe Photoshop Version: 9.0 (9.0×196)
Operating System: Windows XP
Version: 5.1 Service Pack 1
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:15, Model:0, Stepping:10 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, HyperThreading
Physical processor count: 1
Processor speed: 1595 MHz
Built-in memory: 1023 MB
Free memory: 624 MB
Memory available to Photoshop: 908 MB
Memory used by Photoshop: 66 %
Image cache levels: 6
Serial number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Application folder: G:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS2\ Temporary file path: C:\DOCUME~1\USER~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\
Photoshop scratch has async I/O enabled
Scratch volume(s):
Startup, 19.1G, 5.64G free
Primary Plug-ins folder: G:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS2\Plug-Ins\

Thanks.

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dave_milbut
May 6, 2005
do you have the info palette open? if so close it and tell us what happens?
AJ
Adam_Jerugim
May 6, 2005
Also what type of video card do you have (including the amount of VRAM)?
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dave_milbut
May 6, 2005
good point adam, and is the ram shared with system ram?

i’m thinking there could be a couple of points of slowdown and each isn’t affecting everyone exibiting problems. might as well try to nail them all.
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Pierre_Courtejoie
May 6, 2005
If you have a 20Gb hard drive, that means a very old one. Current disks are not only larger, but also faster.
(Still 7 ran ok for you, this is just a general remark)
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Rob_Woods
May 6, 2005
The info palette is closed. It made no difference.

Video card is Nvidia TNT2 M64 32MB AGP.

How do I find out if the RAM is shared? I’d guess not, tho.

The 20GB is old (2001) but is 7200 RPM. The other, never, drive is a 120GB partitioned into a 100GB and 20GB.

After the splash screen the palettes are painted very, very slowly — over 10 secs. Loading an image takes real time. After closing the image, the navigator, history, and layers palettes blank after 1-3 secs. serially.

Thanks for helping.
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dpick
May 6, 2005
How big is your monitor and what resolution are you running it at? 32mb can get eaten pretty fast with a large monitor running at high res. Even if it’s not your problem with CS2, I’d think about a new vid card.
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Rob_Woods
May 6, 2005
18" running at (But it’s the same that I ran PS7.01).

Do you think a newer vid card would help?

Thx again.
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dave_milbut
May 6, 2005
I’d hang out on the new vid card (unless you really want one for stuff like gaming) until the adobe guys can get a handle on what’s going on here. i’m sure they’re still trying to figure it out.
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Pierre_Courtejoie
May 6, 2005
Still, a TNT2 is very old… but the speed/age of the videocard never had an influence in earlier versions.
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dave_milbut
May 6, 2005
I agree with both those stmts. 🙂
AJ
Adam_Jerugim
May 6, 2005
The slowdown could very well be related to your older video card.

I don’t know what to recommend as far as getting a new video card, except to say that it will probably make a huge difference as far as your experience with CS2. Adding another GB of physical RAM probably wouldn’t hurt either, but is less important than having better video support.
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dave_milbut
May 6, 2005
adam, are you with adobe? your profile doesn’t specify so just checking.

thanks, dave
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Mick_Murphy
May 6, 2005
You don’t mean you haven’t learned the extended credits off yet Dave.
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ABERGER2
May 6, 2005
Guys, I am having problems with the speed of CS2 as well… I have a Matrox Millinum P650 (2 months old) dual head card with 64 MB DDR memory and 2 gigs of DDR 3200 RAM… Running XP Pro on a P4 3.0 ghz..

Still have CS and 7.01 on and they fly…

Hopefully someone will come up with an answer…

Thanks,

Al
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Adam_Jerugim
May 6, 2005
Yes, I’m with Adobe.

Part of the PS engineering team.

I’m very interested in performance and hardware issues (you can probably tell by looking at my recent posts).

People can send me performance issues directly to my email at adobe by sending it to: first initial, then last name (all lower case) at adobe dot com.
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Rob_Woods
May 6, 2005
I took the advice about video card, and changed mine with my son’s GeForce4 440MX, 128Mb. While still much slower than PS701, CS2 was much better. Now I’ve purchased a FX5500, 256MB and PS-CS2 is useable — still slower than PS7 — but useable. Clearly the minimum for using PS-CS2 is much more than the 16-bit video card as published. (I hope that Adobe amends that.)

My thanks to all of you who helped. I look forward to the solution of the performance questions (and some more of the nimbleness of PS7), so will keep an eye out here. Now to use some of the new features I purchased PS-CS2 for.

Thank you all again,

Rob
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dave_milbut
May 7, 2005
Thanks Adam. Good to know. Now i’ll have to watch the splash screen again! 🙂
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Gener
May 9, 2005
So is a video card using system memory a good or bad thing when it comes to Photoshop performance?

Gene
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deebs
May 9, 2005
I don’t think it matters really does it?

Memory stacks can be partitioned just like hard disks – provided the video memory is not addressed by application programs or the OS in an untoward way things should be hunky dory.
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Gener
May 9, 2005
Thanks deebs, that clears it up for me 🙂
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dave_milbut
May 9, 2005
So is a video card using system memory a good or bad thing when it comes to Photoshop performance?

it means less system memory available to applications. take that as you will. i’d classify it under "bad".
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Gener
May 9, 2005
Thanks Dave. In my case it knocks down my built-in system memory from 512M to 448. 379M is set aside for Photoshop and I set usage to 70%.
My files are < 50M, so that works.

Laptops are great, but you are stuck with whatever they glue inside. 😀

Btw, is it just me or do others here use the Windows key + Pause Break to bring up the Windows System Properties box? I think it’s a pretty cool shortcut 🙂
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dave_milbut
May 10, 2005
I never touch the windows key. it frightens me. i think it’s out to get me… and i think it has cooties. 🙂
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Nick_Rains
May 10, 2005
I cross-posted this to another thread but I have a MX440 card like Rob Woods above – and my redraws are just fine. 19" CRT running at 1152×8634 @75Hz. My drivers are not even the latest.

No hesitation, no stuttering, just blink, it’s done. Can’t be the card.

Nick Rains
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Gener
May 10, 2005
I never touch the windows key. it frightens me. i think it’s out to get me… and i think it has cooties. 🙂

They make tin foil key caps for that in assorted colors 😀
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xlife
May 10, 2005
Have any of you seen reg file in

Goodies\Optional Plug-Ins\Photoshop Only\Optional Extensions\

OptimizeResizeDrawing_OFF.reg
OptimizeResizeDrawing_ON_D.reg

By default, Adobe Photoshop CS2 slows the display of real-time resizing for display adapter cards that are not able to display this redrawing as fast as Photoshop can perform it. To turn off this optimization, run the OptimizeResizeDrawing_OFF.reg file. To reactivate this function, use these instructions to run the OptimizeResizeDrawing_ON_D.reg file.

It worked for me … it’s not lightning fast after merging reg file but is’t faster.

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