Ctrl+H not functioning correctly in CS2

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chrisjbirchall
May 10, 2005
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Ctrl+H (Hide) often – but not always – fails to work first time.

It is a command I use often during edits to hide the ‘marching ants’ whilst making adjustments to a selection.

Due to the intermittent nature of this bug it’s no use even getting into the habit of doing a Ctrl+H+H instead, because if it does happen to work first time, the second H just brings the marching ants back!

The problem never occurred in CS, but I do seem to remember it from earlier versions.

I’d be interested to know whether everyone else in experiencing this. You can replicate the problem every time on my machine by making a rectangular selection with the marquee tool then pressing Ctrl+H.

CS2. XP Home, Athlon 64 3200+, 2GB Kingston ram.
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Mick_Murphy
May 10, 2005
Not seeing anything like you describe. Probably not but, just to check if it might be a sticky key on your keyboard, how about assigning a different key combo.
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MarcPawliger
May 10, 2005
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Ctrl+H (Hide) often – but not always – fails to work first time.

This sounds like it is working as designed as expected. If you had some items’ visibility suppressed via Ctrl+H, then created something new that can be hidden, e.g. a path, a selection, a guide, pressing Ctrl-H will first hide the newly created item but not make the previously suppressed items visible. The second Ctrl-H will make all items visible, both the previously suppressed and the newly created.

–marc
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chrisjbirchall
May 10, 2005
might be a sticky key on your keyboard

Nope – tried a new keyboard. (Not that it was ever a possiblility)

pressing Ctrl-H will first hide the newly created item but not make the previously suppressed items visible. The second Ctrl-H will make all items visible, both the previously suppressed and the newly created

Nope again.

Marc. I can recreate this simply by opening a new document, creating a selection and then hit Ctrl+H. It takes a second hit to hide the selection.

Chris.
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Mick_Murphy
May 10, 2005
This sounds like it is working as designed as expected. If you had some items’ visibility suppressed via Ctrl+H, then created something new that can be hidden, e.g. a path, a selection, a guide, pressing Ctrl-H will first hide the newly created item but not make the previously suppressed items visible

Not meaning to contradict somebody who knows PS inside out but that is not what I see. If I have say a grid suppressed from an initial ctrl+H then make a selection and hit ctrl+H, it shows the grid. I need to hit it again to hide everything. Surely that would be the expected behaviour – viewing or not viewing Extras.
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YrbkMgr
May 10, 2005
Chris,

Have you tried varying your keyboard repeat rate? You know, from Control Panel. Just a shot in the dark…

Peace,
Tony
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MarcPawliger
May 10, 2005
In article
wrote:

This sounds like it is working as designed as expected. If you had some items’ visibility suppressed via Ctrl+H, then created something new that can be hidden, e.g. a path, a selection, a guide, pressing Ctrl-H will first hide the newly created item but not make the previously suppressed items visible

Not meaning to contradict somebody who knows PS inside out but that is not what I see. If I have say a grid suppressed from an initial ctrl+H then make a selection and hit ctrl+H, it shows the grid. I need to hit it again to hide everything. Surely that would be the expected behaviour – viewing or not viewing Extras.

You are correct – we first make everything visible, then hide everything. I had it backwards.

Still doesn’t explain the reported behavior – there would seem to be something we are missing.

–marc
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chrisjbirchall
May 10, 2005
Marc.

Found it!

I thought I’d look to see what has changed since CS1 and have tracked down the problem to one of the two new entries in the New Show Extras Options dialogue.

Try this:

Make a new document.
Make a small selection.
Ctrl+H = it hides.

Make another selection (which effectively deselects the first) Ctrl+H = nothing happens.
A second Ctrl+H is needed to hide it.

Make a third selection
Ctrl+H = nothing happens
Ctrl+H again = it hides.

Now deselect Smart Guides from the Show Extras Options dialogue

Make a new document
Make a selection
Ctrl+H = it hides

Make another selection
Ctrl+H = it hides

Every time – just as it should be!

Conclusion: Smart Guides are being created whenever a selection is made, and although they are invisible they are still there as "the other hideable object" causing Ctrl+H to toggle in this manner.

And whilst I can "cure" the problem by deselecting Smart Guides from Show Extras Options, I’m left without a quick way of disabling them should I not require them.

At least now I can Ctrl+H to my heart’s content. <grin>

….but I wager it’s not the last we’ll here of this on this forum.

Chris.
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Seneca_Menard
May 10, 2005
I totally agree with chrisjbirchall…..

If I have *NO* grids or lines or *ANYTHING* being shown, a CTRL-H will still not hide the selection until I hit it a second time.

I’ve also never even liked having CTRL-H being used to hide grids/lines/etc.. If I wanted to hide those, I’d hit CRL-; or whatever….

Anyways…… later.
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Seneca_Menard
May 10, 2005
Oh wow. I *just* fixed what I was just complaining about. I rebound CTRL-H to "Show -> Selection Edges" instead of "Extras", and now my hotkey only hides the selection like I wanted it to, AND I only have to hit it once! Now that’s awesome! 🙂
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chrisjbirchall
May 10, 2005
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

Just to recap:

To cure the problem of having to ‘double hit’ Ctrl+H when hiding the ‘marching ants’ navigate to View>Show>Show_Extras_Options and uncheck Smart Guides from Show Extras options box.

Smart Guides will still work and you can show/hide them by checking Smart Guides in the View>Show drop-down menu.

Chris
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John Joslin
May 10, 2005
But that doesn’t explain why some people (eg moi) don’t have the problem even with Smart Guides checked.

Or am I missing something?
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chrisjbirchall
May 11, 2005
But that doesn’t explain why some people (eg moi) don’t have the problem even with Smart Guides checked.

<Alice> Curiouser and curiouser </Alice>

Did you go through the steps in post #7? and do you have Smart Guides checked in both the View>Show menu and in the Show Extras Menu?

Chris
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John Joslin
May 11, 2005
Yup.
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chrisjbirchall
May 11, 2005
John.

Just installed CS2 on one of my other machines. Two totaly different configurations (one is a 64bit machine, the other 32bit).

The exact same thing happens (as per post #7) when Smart Guides is checked in the Show Extras options box.

Yet it doesn’t happen on yours? Wierd!

I wonder if any of the Adobe team can replicate the problem?

Chris.
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John Joslin
May 11, 2005
Well I just got it to happen (Ctrl+H not working) But now I can’t reproduce it.

It seems to depend on the image, the View settings and some other variables.

I’ll experiment a bit.

What fun! Tracking down problems in our favourite software. 😉

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