Open a PSD file in RAW

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How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?

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John Passaneau
Jul 30, 2009
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.

John Passaneau
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BF
Jul 30, 2009
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?

You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.

John Passaneau

I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.
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toby
Jul 31, 2009
On Jul 30, 4:56 pm, BF wrote:
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.

John Passaneau

I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.

Sure, it’s not really a PSD. It only happens to have the extension PSD.
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Joel
Jul 31, 2009
toby wrote:

On Jul 30, 4:56 pm, BF wrote:
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.

John Passaneau

I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.

Sure, it’s not really a PSD. It only happens to have the extension PSD.

That’s what I tried to tell him/her that the extension doesn’t mean anything to Photoshop.
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toby
Jul 31, 2009
On Jul 31, 3:09 pm, Joel wrote:
toby wrote:
On Jul 30, 4:56 pm, BF wrote:
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.

John Passaneau

I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.

Sure, it’s not really a PSD. It only happens to have the extension PSD.

        That’s what I tried to tell him/her that the extension doesn’t mean anything to Photoshop.

Well maybe one of us will get through!
B
BF
Aug 3, 2009
toby wrote:
On Jul 31, 3:09 pm, Joel wrote:
toby wrote:
On Jul 30, 4:56 pm, BF wrote:
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.
John Passaneau
I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.
Sure, it’s not really a PSD. It only happens to have the extension PSD.
That’s what I tried to tell him/her that the extension doesn’t mean anything to Photoshop.

Well maybe one of us will get through!

OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?
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BF
Aug 3, 2009
toby wrote:
On Jul 31, 3:09 pm, Joel wrote:
toby wrote:
On Jul 30, 4:56 pm, BF wrote:
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.
John Passaneau
I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.
Sure, it’s not really a PSD. It only happens to have the extension PSD.
That’s what I tried to tell him/her that the extension doesn’t mean anything to Photoshop.

Well maybe one of us will get through!

OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?
J
Joel
Aug 3, 2009
BF wrote:

toby wrote:
On Jul 31, 3:09 pm, Joel wrote:
toby wrote:
On Jul 30, 4:56 pm, BF wrote:
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.
John Passaneau
I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.
Sure, it’s not really a PSD. It only happens to have the extension PSD.
That’s what I tried to tell him/her that the extension doesn’t mean anything to Photoshop.

Well maybe one of us will get through!

OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?

It’s whatever it’s. So, if you try to rename to PSD but Photoshop won’t open then you know it ain’t PSD, renaming to TIFF but PS won’t open then you know for sure it ain’t TIFF, renaming to JPG but PS won’t open then you know for sure it ain’t JPG.

What else? there are around dozen or so formats, and you can try until you find out what the real format is, and that’s the REWARD.
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Dave
Aug 6, 2009
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:17:49 -0400, BF wrote:

toby wrote:
On Jul 31, 3:09 pm, Joel wrote:
toby wrote:
On Jul 30, 4:56 pm, BF wrote:
John Passaneau wrote:
BF wrote:
How can I open a PSD file in camera RAW in CS4?
You can’t. Camera RAW dosn’t know about PSD’s. The only thing you can do is to load it into CS4, flatten the image and save it in a format that Camera RAW will open. I know that you can do JPG, and I think it will do TIFF.
John Passaneau
I just did it. Find a PSD file using "File/OpenAs", and click on the Camera Raw preference. Opens in camera RAW. Try it and let me know what I am missing because it worked for me.
Sure, it’s not really a PSD. It only happens to have the extension PSD.
That’s what I tried to tell him/her that the extension doesn’t mean anything to Photoshop.

Well maybe one of us will get through!

OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?

So, why did you clever guys stop answering the OP?
He is waiting for an answer and So am I:-)
JS
John Stafford
Aug 6, 2009
On 8/6/09 9:01 AM, in article ,
"Dave" wrote:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:17:49 -0400, BF wrote:

OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?

So, why did you clever guys stop answering the OP?
He is waiting for an answer and So am I:-)

I suggest two things: First he should put the file online so we can look at it. (Binary mode transfer)

Then get Irfanview which can open almost anything. Requires Windows.

I use a hex editor to find the file type, or ImageMagick at the command line. $magick > identify -verbose filename.ext
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Dave
Aug 6, 2009
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:11:03 -0500, John Stafford
OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?

So, why did you clever guys stop answering the OP?
He is waiting for an answer and So am I:-)

I suggest two things: First he should put the file online so we can look at it. (Binary mode transfer)

Then get Irfanview which can open almost anything. Requires Windows.
I use a hex editor to find the file type, or ImageMagick at the command line. $magick > identify -verbose filename.ext

John, his question (the one which had the clever ones fleeing) is at the top. Whether he is losing data, and if not, why worry about the ‘realness’ extension?
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BF
Aug 7, 2009
Dave wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:11:03 -0500, John Stafford
OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?

So, why did you clever guys stop answering the OP?
He is waiting for an answer and So am I:-)
I suggest two things: First he should put the file online so we can look at it. (Binary mode transfer)

Then get Irfanview which can open almost anything. Requires Windows.
I use a hex editor to find the file type, or ImageMagick at the command line. $magick > identify -verbose filename.ext

John, his question (the one which had the clever ones fleeing) is at the top. Whether he is losing data, and if not, why worry about the ‘realness’ extension?

Thank you Dave

I can open any of my PSD files in camera RAW as I described earlier. I don’t really care what RAW thinks it is or isn’t I want to know if I lose any data by making changes in Camera RAW and re-saving as a PSD. I think some one asked why would I want to do that. Why not just go back to the original RAW file and start over. Start over being the key words. Since this was a picture from an old P&S digital camera, I did a lot of correction in photoshop and later noticed a red fringe in an area that I didn’t notice to begin with. The lens correction tool in RAW works really well for correcting this. Maybe there is the same tool in CS4 but I haven’t seen it.

Bottom line is what did RAW do to open this image? Is all of the data the same as if I opened it in Photoshop? And am I losing anything by re-saving it as a PSD. If I open a JPG in RAW and re-save it I will obviously lose data. Or will I? If "it’s not really a PSD", like someone said earlier in this post, then is it really a JPG.
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Dave
Aug 7, 2009
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:13:41 -0400, BF wrote:

Dave wrote:
John, his question (the one which had the clever ones fleeing) is at the top. Whether he is losing data, and if not, why worry about the ‘realness’ extension?

Thank you Dave

Bottom line is what did RAW do to open this image? Is all of the data the same as if I opened it in Photoshop? And am I losing anything by re-saving it as a PSD. If I open a JPG in RAW and re-save it I will obviously lose data. Or will I? If "it’s not really a PSD", like someone said earlier in this post, then is it really a JPG.

and I support your view whole heartedly.
What it really is, is of no importance, as long as the value keep on being the same. And, most probably it keep on being a PSD. Obvious, the guys who answered you, hoped for one with more knowledge to intervene, and when no one else did it, they fled tail between the legs.

I do not think PS will keep on calling it a PSD but secretly alter the extension. More probably PS would not open it rather than changing the selection. So, let’s assume it (still) is a PSD until we learn otherwise.
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toby
Aug 12, 2009
On Aug 7, 11:13 am, BF wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:11:03 -0500, John Stafford
OK. It’s not a tiff, its not a jpg, it’s not a psd then what is it? Am I losing anything by opening it in camera raw then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a psd again?

So, why did you clever guys stop answering the OP?
He is waiting for an answer and So am I:-)
I suggest two things: First he should put the file online so we can look at it. (Binary mode transfer)

Then get Irfanview which can open almost anything. Requires Windows.

I use a hex editor to find the file type, or ImageMagick at the command line.     $magick > identify -verbose filename.ext

John, his question (the one which had the clever ones fleeing) is at the top. Whether he is losing data, and if not, why worry about the ‘realness’ extension?

Thank you Dave

I can open any of my PSD files in camera RAW as I described earlier. I don’t really care what RAW thinks it is or isn’t I want to know if I lose any data by making changes in Camera RAW and re-saving as a PSD. I think some one asked why would I want to do that. Why not just go back to the original RAW file and start over. Start over being the key words. Since this was a picture from an old P&S digital camera, I did a lot of correction in photoshop and later noticed a red fringe in an area that I didn’t notice to begin with. The lens correction tool in RAW works really well for correcting this. Maybe there is the same tool in CS4 but I haven’t seen it.

Bottom line is what did RAW do to open this image? Is all of the data the same as if I opened it in Photoshop? And am I losing anything by re-saving it as a PSD. If I open a JPG in RAW and re-save it I will obviously lose data. Or will I? If "it’s not really a PSD", like someone said earlier in this post, then is it really a JPG.

It has been mentioned above that, since files almost always include a header signature for this purpose, you can easily find out what it really is by inspecting the file with various utilities (such as those suggested by John above). Unfortunately nobody can do this for you unless you make the file available.

As for "losing data": by saving it as PSD you will be saving the document’s current state without loss. Whether you have done unwanted damage to the document before the point of saving (such as reducing resolution, cropping, adjusting, painting, or flattening layers that you might regret later) is your problem. This overlooks the possibility of minor "loss" involved in setting parameters of the initial conversion of RAW to an open Photoshop document.

In the end, you need to determine what workflow is most useful to you.

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