Panorama (multi phot) joint artifacts (PS CS3)

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Alan Browne
Aug 14, 2009
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Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg

Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?

Thanks,
Alan.

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AB
Alan Browne
Aug 14, 2009
Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?

Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.
J
jaSPAMc
Aug 14, 2009
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?

Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.

Don’t know how you make your pans, but I use a 12 pixel feather for the overlaying layer and use the hand lasso to draw irregular paths, staying in darker areas if possible.

Yes FLATTEN before any sizing operation – though I always keep the -=original=- with its layers.
AB
Alan Browne
Aug 14, 2009
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?
Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.

Don’t know how you make your pans, but I use a 12 pixel feather for the overlaying layer and use the hand lasso to draw irregular paths, staying in darker areas if possible.

Being lazy I entrust the process to PS CS3’s Photomerge process which, as far as I can tell, does not allow the user to control the width of the stitch feather area. Given the 11 photos for this pano, I wouldn’t want to attempt it manually.

Yes FLATTEN before any sizing operation – though I always keep the -=original=- with its layers.

I don’t, though I suppose it’s a good idea. Really though, I’d rather not come back to it!

Forgetting to flatten was only slightly dumber than posting a request for help before thinking it through.
J
jaSPAMc
Aug 14, 2009
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?
Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.

Don’t know how you make your pans, but I use a 12 pixel feather for the overlaying layer and use the hand lasso to draw irregular paths, staying in darker areas if possible.

Being lazy I entrust the process to PS CS3’s Photomerge process which, as far as I can tell, does not allow the user to control the width of the stitch feather area. Given the 11 photos for this pano, I wouldn’t want to attempt it manually.

Yes FLATTEN before any sizing operation – though I always keep the -=original=- with its layers.

I don’t, though I suppose it’s a good idea. Really though, I’d rather not come back to it!

Forgetting to flatten was only slightly dumber than posting a request for help before thinking it through.
It’s -=only=- 270*, but …
http://ttrr.org/ac_walk/aw_p12.html

IIRC, some 27 images as I shoot portrait mode to get maximum height.
J
jaSPAMc
Aug 15, 2009
Sir F. A. Rien found these unused words:

Alan Browne found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?
Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.

Don’t know how you make your pans, but I use a 12 pixel feather for the overlaying layer and use the hand lasso to draw irregular paths, staying in darker areas if possible.

Being lazy I entrust the process to PS CS3’s Photomerge process which, as far as I can tell, does not allow the user to control the width of the stitch feather area. Given the 11 photos for this pano, I wouldn’t want to attempt it manually.

Yes FLATTEN before any sizing operation – though I always keep the -=original=- with its layers.

I don’t, though I suppose it’s a good idea. Really though, I’d rather not come back to it!

Forgetting to flatten was only slightly dumber than posting a request for help before thinking it through.
It’s -=only=- 270*, but …
http://ttrr.org/ac_walk/aw_p12.html

IIRC, some 27 images as I shoot portrait mode to get maximum height.

Correction – the PSD has 27, what I put on the site is 18 as the additional didnt ‘show’ much other than barren, featureless desert hills. Main reason was showing the Amargosa Canyon.
AB
Alan Browne
Aug 15, 2009
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Sir F. A. Rien found these unused words:

Alan Browne found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?
Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.
Don’t know how you make your pans, but I use a 12 pixel feather for the overlaying layer and use the hand lasso to draw irregular paths, staying in darker areas if possible.
Being lazy I entrust the process to PS CS3’s Photomerge process which, as far as I can tell, does not allow the user to control the width of the stitch feather area. Given the 11 photos for this pano, I wouldn’t want to attempt it manually.

Yes FLATTEN before any sizing operation – though I always keep the -=original=- with its layers.
I don’t, though I suppose it’s a good idea. Really though, I’d rather not come back to it!

Forgetting to flatten was only slightly dumber than posting a request for help before thinking it through.
It’s -=only=- 270*, but …
http://ttrr.org/ac_walk/aw_p12.html

IIRC, some 27 images as I shoot portrait mode to get maximum height.

Correction – the PSD has 27, what I put on the site is 18 as the additional didnt ‘show’ much other than barren, featureless desert hills. Main reason was showing the Amargosa Canyon.
Nice though I’d prefer a non-framed presentation of it.

Next time I do a pano like this I’ll probably shoot portrait, further I’ll mount a Hasselblad 80mm lens on the camera and shoot a top and bottom row. I used a Monolta 50 f/1.7 in the pano: here is the final result (reduced in size):

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25606487(Click on small image, zoom in) (file is 6000 x 382 / 989 kB).
Sony a900, Minolta 50 f/1.7, f/11 1/250, ISO 125.
AB
Alan Browne
Aug 15, 2009
Alan Browne wrote:
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Sir F. A. Rien found these unused words:

Alan Browne found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused
words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?
Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.
Don’t know how you make your pans, but I use a 12 pixel feather for the
overlaying layer and use the hand lasso to draw irregular paths, staying in
darker areas if possible.
Being lazy I entrust the process to PS CS3’s Photomerge process which, as far as I can tell, does not allow the user to control the width of the stitch feather area. Given the 11 photos for this pano, I wouldn’t want to attempt it manually.

Yes FLATTEN before any sizing operation – though I always keep the -=original=- with its layers.
I don’t, though I suppose it’s a good idea. Really though, I’d rather not come back to it!

Forgetting to flatten was only slightly dumber than posting a request for help before thinking it through.
It’s -=only=- 270*, but …
http://ttrr.org/ac_walk/aw_p12.html

IIRC, some 27 images as I shoot portrait mode to get maximum height.

Correction – the PSD has 27, what I put on the site is 18 as the additional
didnt ‘show’ much other than barren, featureless desert hills. Main reason
was showing the Amargosa Canyon.
Nice though I’d prefer a non-framed presentation of it.

Next time I do a pano like this I’ll probably shoot portrait, further I’ll mount a Hasselblad 80mm lens on the camera and shoot a top and bottom row. I used a Monolta 50 f/1.7 in the pano: here is the final result (reduced in size):

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25606487(Click on small image, zoom in)

Should be: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25606487

(file is 6000 x 382 / 989 kB).
Sony a900, Minolta 50 f/1.7, f/11 1/250, ISO 125.
J
jaSPAMc
Aug 15, 2009
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Sir F. A. Rien found these unused words:

Alan Browne found these unused
words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused
words:

Alan Browne wrote:
Here is part of a 360 deg panorama I shot recently. Takes for ever to render (full size is over 250M pix).

Oddly, when viewed at full size the artifacts are not visible, but reduced to a much smaller size, they are. Here is a fragment (part of 4 images with the artifact lines in white) where the artifacts are visible (although "softened" by photo.net).
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9635831&size=lg
Anyone know how to avoid these artifacts? Is it the choice of the re-sampling algo when reducing that will do it? Which one?
Reminder to self: flatten the image before reducing in size.
Don’t know how you make your pans, but I use a 12 pixel feather for the
overlaying layer and use the hand lasso to draw irregular paths, staying in
darker areas if possible.
Being lazy I entrust the process to PS CS3’s Photomerge process which, as far as I can tell, does not allow the user to control the width of the stitch feather area. Given the 11 photos for this pano, I wouldn’t want to attempt it manually.

Yes FLATTEN before any sizing operation – though I always keep the -=original=- with its layers.
I don’t, though I suppose it’s a good idea. Really though, I’d rather not come back to it!

Forgetting to flatten was only slightly dumber than posting a request for help before thinking it through.
It’s -=only=- 270*, but …
http://ttrr.org/ac_walk/aw_p12.html

IIRC, some 27 images as I shoot portrait mode to get maximum height.

Correction – the PSD has 27, what I put on the site is 18 as the additional
didnt ‘show’ much other than barren, featureless desert hills. Main reason
was showing the Amargosa Canyon.
Nice though I’d prefer a non-framed presentation of it.

as part of an ‘article’ it needed to be in keepingwith the rest.

This and the below were done when screens were nominally 800×600.

Next time I do a pano like this I’ll probably shoot portrait, further I’ll mount a Hasselblad 80mm lens on the camera and shoot a top and bottom row. I used a Monolta 50 f/1.7 in the pano: here is the final result (reduced in size):

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25606487(Click on small image, zoom in)

Should be: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25606487

(file is 6000 x 382 / 989 kB).
Sony a900, Minolta 50 f/1.7, f/11 1/250, ISO 125.

Also very nice, one or two possible ‘stutters’, perhaps a bit more overlay would allow the program to compensate.

Some other early pans …
http://lephoto.ttrr.org/panorama.html
AB
Alan Browne
Aug 16, 2009
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

Some other early pans …
http://lephoto.ttrr.org/panorama.html

I like those, though perhaps you should update them with higher res versions now.
J
jaSPAMc
Aug 17, 2009
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

Some other early pans …
http://lephoto.ttrr.org/panorama.html

I like those, though perhaps you should update them with higher res versions now.

Rather hard to do as I’m 1200 miles away in retirement! <G>

Have a couple from ‘way up north’ I may add. They’re in much higher res.
MR
Mike Russell
Aug 18, 2009
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

Someher early pans …
http://lephoto.ttrr.org/panorama.html

Great pix – thanks for sharing.

Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com
AB
Alan Browne
Aug 18, 2009
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

Some other early pans …
http://lephoto.ttrr.org/panorama.html
I like those, though perhaps you should update them with higher res versions now.

Rather hard to do as I’m 1200 miles away in retirement! <G>

I assumed you still have the source images.

Have a couple from ‘way up north’ I may add. They’re in much higher res.
J
jaSPAMc
Aug 19, 2009
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
Alan Browne found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

Some other early pans …
http://lephoto.ttrr.org/panorama.html
I like those, though perhaps you should update them with higher res versions now.

Rather hard to do as I’m 1200 miles away in retirement! <G>

I assumed you still have the source images.
One was from a Mavica – that and the first -=are=- the ‘full’ res. It was a 540×480 digital that ‘shot’ onto floppy discs.

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