Try a TrackBall… you don’t move-it like a mouse… just roll the big ball on top…
I like to sit that ‘puppy’ on my lap ounce in awhile to change position…
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I started using the MarbleMouse (last one in bottom) about 8 years ago (was 90$ back then…) … and i never looked-back.
Still using the same unit… still smooth and very easy to clean..
HappyScrolling
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the Logitech products are great .. you will have to spend more than 20$ for a good mouse … depending on the surface that you are using your current mouse .. a mouse pad could made a big difference.
The_Rock
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I just bought a $20 Kensington 800dpi optical mouse (first upgrade from my
roller mouse) and frankly I’m getting frustrated with its quality in dealing w/ PS so I would like some suggestions.
And does a mouse pad make that big of a difference?… I have a smooth
wooden desk top.
* poor college student*
~MM
Thank you 🙂 I’ll check it out. I’ve never used one b4.
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:43:50 -0700, wrote:
Thank you 🙂 I’ll check it out. I’ve never used one b4.
The Logitech MX1000 is fantastic – it costs about $80 in the US and it is well worth it because of its superb sensitivity. It is a wireless optical mouse and it works much better with a mouse pad even though it supposedly works on any surface.
Optical mice behave funny on some surfaces, including wooden table tops. If the surface is too shiny it may interfere with mouse tracking. Even some mouse pads can have problems. I have a Dell/THX mousepad that came with a now aging Dimension 4100 system. Optical mice didn’t work worth a hoot on this mousepad since it was too glossy. Fabric mousepads with some "tooth" to them tend to work best.
I’m not a big fan of track balls as mice. Some people really like them and that’s fine. In general the only trackballs I can use well are on classic Centepede and Millipede coin op games.
As to mouse recommendations, Logitech generally makes the best. Their newest "gaming mouse," the MX-518 boasts a 1600dpi resolution, a number of programmable buttons and other features. List price is $50.
Ever since I switched to optical many years ago, I started using second-hand mousepads. Worn in with ‘tooth’ as Bobby said.
Just the other day I tried a new mouse pad and it’s shiny newness made my pointer shoot all over the place. Went right back to my worn out piece of crap pad.
Definitely matte over glossy any day.
Did use an optical trackball for a few. The kind with a small ball under the thumb. Took awhile to get used to, but decent enough. Could even play FPS games with it. Might still have it in a drawer somewhere.
I wonder if retailing mousepads is like retailing electric razors. Something like 90% of electric razors are bought by women as gifts. Men know they shave like crap, and won’t waste the money. Women fall for the advertising.
I bet the majority (or a significant amount) of after-sale mouse pads are bought as Christmas gifts by people buying for the look of the thing, rather than the practicality. Hence sales of shiny, useless pads, usually emblazoned with a sports logo or something.
Don
If you do a lot of selecting get a Wacom A5 Tablet, I used an optical mouse for years but there’s no way I can get the precision that a tablet gives, I bet many others agree?
I agree!
The A5 Wacom comes with a pen (naturally!) but also a wireless 3-button scroll mouse which works on the tablet.
It’s a great combination. Just don’t leave the pen on the tablet when using the mouse.
I agree with the two Johns. A Wacom tablet has become indispensable to me and I would never consider going back to a regular mouse. Once you have used the mouse that comes with the tablet, it becomes second nature and works exactly like any other mouse. The added benefit is that you have the graphic pen which makes working with Photoshop a lot of fun. They are expensive but worth the money in my view. And they do take up some desk real estate (depends on the size of the tablet) so I would recommend a small one (6×9) unless you have an overwhelming need for one of the larger sizes.
Since you are a student, you should be able to get one at a substantial discount from one of the educational resellers or possibly even your school store.
Jake
I agree with the 3 J’s
I think there is an academic version of Wacom Graphire that is bundled with some software and it looked quite a good deal too!
I’ve been using Logitech optical mice since they first came out, but I think the key to the precise results I’ve always gotten is using a "3M Precise Mousing Surface" mousepad. I don’t know whether they’re still manufactured, but they’re worth looking for.
On a side note, I just got a Logitech MediaPlay mouse to use with my laptop. It has additional buttons that control a media player (like WinAmp) and I love the thing. Works from up to 10 feet away and — gold star for Logitech — didn’t mess up the drivers or settings for the touchpad on the laptop.
I know what you mean t
I’ve just USB’d a lazy keyboard into the laptop and it has remapped the laptop keyboard for example
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LOL! The second sentence is on the laptop keyboard and should be exactly the sae as the one before
I would recommend the Logitech mouse for PS work. I use the Logitech MX-510 which is the predecessor to the latest MX-518. I like the ergonomic and precision movement of the MX-510. It is better than the Microsoft Intellimouse that I used before. The MX-510 was designed for gaming but it works great in PS.
Agree with previous poster that the good old cheap cloth mouse pad is the best for optical mouse (strange as it may sound).
Mighty Max,
I will now confuse you even more.
I have used the Microsoft Intellimouse for a couple of years now. I work in Photoshop for at least six hours every day. On some days, much longer. I donÂ’t have time to play games as a great percentage of my income is through the use of Photoshop.
I have to do a LOT of selecting and this mouse works GREAT for me. My “mouse-pad” is the cardboard back from a yellow “legal tablet”. It is smooth but not shiny. Being cardboard, it has a natural “grain” that the optical mouse “sees” very easily. Any piece of similar smooth cardboard would work.
I will admit that I know nothing about any Logitech mice, but I really can’t imagine anything being more precise than the Intellimouse and my “pad” combination. It is very precise and. the mouse feels as if it is almost floating. Keep the four “feet” clean.
Concerning the Wacom tablet, I have one and use it primarily for drawing. An example would be when I place a person on a new background and the hair is not quit right. I then draw in new hair with the pen and it works very well. However, when it comes to selections, I use the mouse, as (for me) it seems more accurate. Also, you can set the buttons however you want. I have mine set so that “alt" is now a button and it works great with the stamp tool.
Now, in all honesty, I do not consider myself very experienced when it comes to using the Wacom. I can say to follow the wise advice to “not leave the pen on the tablet when using the mouse”.
This is ONLY MY OPINION and I do not mean to offend any of you pinko, communists loving, devil worshiping Logitech users out there.
Oh. by the way. I tried a trackball once. I really think that I could learn every version of the Chinese language much quicker. But then again, I kindÂ’a old and donÂ’t learn very fast.
Peace,
Q
logitech mx1000 laser mouse. 1000dpi. used on a wood table no problem.
Logitech MARBLE MOUSE!!!! Have had one for almost 10 years! I bought a second one because it had a usb connector. I also like the Wacom, and you can pick a graphire up for about $80.00 from any of the academic sites (My college is trying to work with our book vendor to come up with a bundle situation….Also check Sam’s club…I got my graphire there during the great imac color change for under $60.00
With the wacom…ditch the mouse…you have to move it on the tablet and this can be frustrating…use the marble mouse and the tablet with the pen!
