I remember back when I tried out Photoshop CS, a nice little Windows feature was disabled for some reason. Standard Windows folder would no longer preview images like before.
I was just wandering if this little mishap has been corrected in CS2. I would prefer to be able to reatin the way my Windows folders work.
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It wasn’t a ‘mishap’ it was quite deliberate because the preview of .PSD’s revealed a problem in the Windows O/S that resulted in many folks being unable to save files. And No, you will not be able to preview PSDs in Explorer with CS2
CS2 includes the standalone programme Bridge which effectively replaces the Windows explorer for navigation and preview.
It may not have been a mishap, but it certainly was not well thought out IMHO. Many people did NOT have a problem with the thumbnail icons interfering with file saves, but we have to suffer along with everyone else. Why could this not be a user pref? And WHY did Adobe ruin the thumbnail icon reg hack that worked so well with CS? You all may be fond of the Browser and the Bridge, but I could function without either one quite nicely if only I could have my icons back.
Further, it baffles me to no end that Adobe can write code to generate Illustrator thumbnail icons without a problem but can’t figure out how to do the same thing for Photoshop. Don’t the product teams ever talk to each other?
The only case where using layered tiffs is dangerous is that if you output files to a printshop. But I guess that now, one does only output PDF-X from InDesign, so using Tiffs can be ok.
If I’m not mistaken, Bruce Fraser uses only two main filetypes: DNG for all his RAW files, and TIFF for his layered images.
Adobe can write code to generate Illustrator thumbnail icons without a
problem<<
No they can’t. Aiicon.dll caused exactly the same problems for Illustrator users as did psicon.dll for Photoshop users and that has also been removed from Illustrator CS2.
Ah… that’s news to me since I’m using Illy 10. Sometimes there are advantages to using older software. Now is some ingenious fellow would figure out how to re-implement the reg hack for Photoshop, I’d be happy.
I really don’t mind using Picasa, Picture It!, IrfanView or some of a myriad alternatives.
In some of these they allow a wider range of options than, say, file exploring with a big plus that the application editor may be assigned anyway.
The upshot?
I can’t really see what the beef is – some of these programs are quick n dirty therefore load a bit faster than Photoshop. A reasonable workaround nonetheless.
This is not to flame or infuriate people with stronger and alternative views, practices or workflow. It’s just to say that there are workarounds and some are quite nifty with reasonable extra functionality
I’m curious what this problem is….By "Standard Windows folder", does that mean something other than with the Thumbnail view selected? I’ve never concerned myself with the absence of seeing a PSD thumbnail in anything but the Thumbnail view, which has always worked fine for me, and continues to do so with both PS CS and CS2 installed. I suppose it could be handy if the icon view also showed thumbnails for all image types, but that’s never been the case for me, be it for PSD format or others. Some work, some don’t.
I see I’ve still got psicon.dll, perhaps by virtue of not removing shared files when I uinstalled PS7. I’ve never seen any problems with data loss, so maybe I’ve just been lucky.
I only saw the problem once or twice with 7 and was always able to finegle my way out of any data loss, but some people (as you know since you’ve been reading) have lost many hours worth of work because they couldn’t figure out how to save the file once the error occoured. tony has a work around too iirc, but for someone(s) less computer savvy, it’s a big problem and a real danger.
from what i gather over the years from the adobe peeps, they tried through several windows updates and patches to get MS to fix the bug with their icon handling interface, but no go. safer for them to drop it than to risk people losing work. i agree with them on that point.
Selecting the thumbnail view of icons (Display as…) works, but I don’t want Windows to generate thumbnail views in all folders where I have images stored. I suppose it wouldn’t be an issue if I had never gotten used to the little thumb icons in the first place, but I did. When CS came along (and with it the supposed end of thumb icons), the enterprising souls among us immediately came out with a reg hack to allow the adventurous to continue using PS thumb icons. Now CS2 has taken that not-so-small small pleasure away.
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But I´m not just talking PSD-files. No images would be previewed by Windows explorer (click on image -> image preview in the space to the left of the folder view). I don´t use ‘thumbnail’ view in my folders so this isn´t the issue either.
Windows, by default apparently, shows previews of images (and other files for that matter) in the space to the left in the folder. This still worked with Photoshop 7, but when I installed CS folders would no longer generate previews.
OK, thanks…you answered my question in that it isn’t the thumbnail view you’re referring to but rather the icon or perhaps even normal file view. I agree that it isn’t all that desirable to have the Thumbs.db file popping up everywhere you display thumbnails…I just ignore it for the most part, but it will sneak up on me sometimes when I do an upload to my website, only to find I transferred that file as well, needlessly.
I’m so happy you’ve moved on. I have no desire to join you.
I have no understanding of your present/past workflow just as you have no understanding of mine. I will tell you frankly that I really don’t care what works for you; you are not me and you don’t do what I do. Your (I assume) well intentioned remarks are not finding a receptive audience here. You may be interested to know that, the programs you mentioned, along with most 3rd party image viewers, will not display a thumb of psd files unless you save them in Max Compatibility Mode. I do not save my files this way, nor do I intend to start.
My displeasure at losing the thumb icons is well known. I had pretty much let the matter drop, but it was revisited here and so I chipped in my 2 bits. A workaround was found for thumb icons is CS, but with CS2, Adobe has seen fit to disallow this bit of renegade functionality and so I will be forced to either remain tethered to CS or move to CS2 and employe the cursed (by many, apparently) Bridge.
Fortunately, I can still see thumbnail previews in Explorer (View>Thumbnails) so I guess I am fortunate in that regard. That, BTW, seems to be the issue that plagues the OP. I wish I had a solution for him.
not that this solves your problems, but i thought i’d interject since you brought up bridge…
one of the coolest things about bridge is the way you can dynamically (via slider) adjust the size of the thumbnails from anywhere from true thumbnail size to near full screen.
I usually work with mine with the brige taking up about half the real estate of a 1280×1024 screen showing thumbs 2 across. they’re pretty big, showing lots of detail. bigger, in fact, than i keep my navigation palette view. if i need an over all view of a folder, i just drag the slide and reduce the thumb size untill i can see dozens of files at a time.
very handy.
don’t mistake bridge for the 7 or cs browser. it’s leaps and bounds better.
I ask because I noticed Bridge eats up over 100 megs of physical RAM (not virtual).
I try not to look at stuff like that while i’m working/playing, unless there’s a need to. CS2 runs fine with bridge open. It’s all just numbers. If it works, don’t sweat it! 🙂
deebs, sorry about my ill humor. I feel that my limitations were imposed on me by Adobe.
On a brighter note, in a few months I’ll have a new dual core box under my desk that’ll put a smile on my face you couldn’t knock off with a jackhammer. 🙂
There is fix for .psd and .ai thumbnail preview in windows explorer downloaded from the web and it works fine . Use google to search fo "photoshop cs2 thumbnails" and "Illustrator cs2 thumbnails" or i ca paste code here …
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