Automatic Color Proofing

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Hauptmann_von_Brauschitsch
Jun 10, 2005
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I’ve been using CS for awhile now, but I’ve upgraded to CS2, and I had this problem in CS too when I initially used it.
Whenever I’m not doing a serious work, most of the time I’m just copy/pasting. However, when I paste, the hue is shifted down towards an orange-ish hue. For the life of me I can’t figure out what I did in CS, but I think the solution lies in setting the proof to automatically be on when Photoshop is started. Is this possible, or is there perhaps a better solution? When I open my previous works, they’re fine; it’s just the pasting.
I apologize if this is a FAQ, but I’m not very technically minded, and all the help files sounded like jibberish. I just know when something looks pretty!

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Rene_Walling
Jun 10, 2005
when I paste, the hue is shifted down towards an orange-ish hue

When you paste what? another image from PS, something from illustrator?
HV
Hauptmann_von_Brauschitsch
Jun 11, 2005
Rene, it’s anything, just about. If I were to ‘print screen’ this page and paste it in Photoshop, it would look quite strange.

Upon further reading, I read that Photoshop is supposed to automatically set colors settings for you monitor. Is this true? If so, it sure isn’t working for me.
Just in case there might be a bit of speculation about my hardware set-up (I know it’s fine)… I know it can’t be calibration issues, because even if my monitor were calibrated incorrectly, the point is Photoshop displays the color differently. I pull up the original image (most usually on the internet) and the copy/pasted image in photoshop and they’re two distinctly different hues.

Any info about proofs is appreciated. ^-^
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Dana_Gartenlaub
Jun 11, 2005
First of all, an image in a color-managed application will look different than a non color-managed application (such as a browser).

For all this to work properly, you must calibrate your monitor. Then when you print use the profile for the particular paper/printer combo.

To see what an image will look like on the Web, check it in Image Ready. Or set the soft proof to either Windows RGB or Macintosh RGB (View>Proof Setup>Windows RGB).

To see what an image will look like on a particular printer/paper combination, View>Proof Setup>Custom and then search for the particular profile for your printer/paper combination.

If you use a very wide color space like Pro Photo RGB as your working space, your images will look really different in Photoshop than in a browser. Try using sRGB or Adobe RGB as your working space.
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Hauptmann_von_Brauschitsch
Jun 12, 2005
The problem is, I have no use for the default colors. They don’t print like CS2 default colors, nor do they look like them on the web.

I’m reluctant to calibrate my monitor, because everything looks the way it should, and I don’t want to destroy the way evrything else looks just to get CS2 looking good. Is this what would happen?

Also, some further experiments. When I take a screenshot of CS2 (all this with no documents open) and paste it, comparing the pasted CS2 background to the real CS2 background, I find that the RGB value are actually different. Just to make sure it was CS2, I did the same thing with MS Paint and had no problems. Dunno if that’s significant.
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LenHewitt
Jun 12, 2005
Hauptmann,

Do yourself a favour and go and spend 15 minutes or so over at http://www.computer-darkroom.com and read up all about Colour Management.

You many think "everything looks the way it should," but unless you have calibrated your monitor and set up Photoshop’s Colour Management, what you are seeing is NOT what is intended by the numbers in the file.
MD
Michael_D_Sullivan
Jun 13, 2005
If you are seeing an image the way it should look and your monitor is not displaying colors right, then the file won’t look good anywhere but on your monitor, which is maladjusted. You need to fix your monitor, first, and then fix the files that looked good on the maladjusted monitor to look good on a properly adjusted monitor.
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Hauptmann_von_Brauschitsch
Jun 14, 2005
I can’t help but think that my monitor is fine. My only real evidence is the fact that I’ve used the same files through an old machine, which looked identical as they do on my current machine. I’ll post specs if necessary. Also, my sister had virus problem awhile back, which I sorted out for her. During this process, I used some of my components in her machine, and for awhile just did normal work – including Photoshop. On all these three machines, I never encountered different colors. However, when I paste in CS2 the image looks as if it has sepia tones applied to it. Problems I don’t encounter if I paste in CS, MS Paint or when I used to use PSP.

More tests: I saved an image as a .PSP, .BMP and a .JPG. When I viewed the bitmap and .JPG in explorer, they viewed fine, and when I opened the .PSP in CS it looked fine too.

Edit: When I opened the aforementioned .PSP in CS2 after saving it in CS2, it again looked fine! This is after the profile mismatch prompt, where I opted to discard. O.O
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LenHewitt
Jun 14, 2005
Hauptman,

If you wish to disregard the advice offered here, that’s fine, but we cannot help you if you won’t be helped.
HV
Hauptmann_von_Brauschitsch
Jun 14, 2005
Well, I’ve gone through the Adobe Gamma, but at every step nothing needed changing. I had assumed this was calibrating, but perhaps not. On the links provided, all the programs (from those links further in) required purchasing. I’ve never done much tinkering with monitors, since I’ve always been satisfied. How can I calibrate, without paying through the wazoo?
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Pipkin
Jun 14, 2005
Try calibrate with video card color settings (if it possible).
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LenHewitt
Jun 14, 2005
Hauptmann,

But isn’t that last bit of info (reply #7) relevant and important?<<

Well all that is saying is your colour management settings in CS2 are not correct.

Look, from CS’s edit>Colour Settings d/box SAVE your current colour settings to a colour settings file (.CSF) to the default location.

From CS2’s Edit>Colour settings d/box LOAD the CSF file you just saved. Tell us what differences you are then seeing between CS2 and CS
HV
Hauptmann_von_Brauschitsch
Jun 14, 2005
Len, I went ahead with your suggestion, and I still got the same results. Are there any other settings in Photoshop that could affect something like this?

I’m still sort of in the dark about how to calibrate my monitor. Shouldn’t Adobe Gamma do it? I went to Computer-Darkroom, but there wasn’t a whole lot that was new to me there.

Pipkin, what do you mean? I don’t quite understnd what you’re saying, sorry. /._.\

EDIT:

Aha! I’ve found it! Whenever I paste something, I’ve trained my fingers to quickly go through CTRL+N; ENTER; CTRL+V, but today the new screen just caught my eye for reasons I still don’t yet understand, and I saw the color management option. I compared CS and CS2, and indeed, they were different! I just turned it off in CS2 and, wha-la, it works, and all subsequent "New" dialouge boxes keep that setting! ^o^

Once again my own incompetence is to blame! 😉 Thanks for putting up with me for so long, y’all I appreciate it! ^-^.

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