Having PS-CS recognize and use a monitor profile

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David_Freed
Jun 10, 2005
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Note: also posted in color management discussion.

I’ve created a monitor profile using Profile Mechanic 1.0 from Digital Light and Color.

From the Start Menu in Windows XP, I’ve gone to Control Panel >Display >Settings >Advanced >Color Management, and set this profile as my default monitor profile.

Question: when I open Photoshop CS, does it automatically recognize and use this monitor profile, or is there settings somewhere that I need to set to make this so?

(As an aside, the PS Help menu has info about creating a monitor profile, but nothing I could find about applying it. In the PS color management settings, there are settings for color space, but there didn’t seem to be anything that deals specifically with selecting/applying monitor profiles, at least with my limited knowlegde of such things.)

Thanks, David.

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brent bertram
Jun 10, 2005
David,
I think it’s likely you’ll have to treat it like an OEM profile, that is, load the profile into the Adobe Gamma Utility, then save it as a slightly different , but recognizable name. It will then be loaded by the Adobe Gamma loader at startup and adjust the video LUT.

🙂

Brent
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David_Freed
Jun 10, 2005
How do I access Adobe Gamma — there’s nothing in the PS Help that tells me where this is?

Also, Profile Mechanic, the program I used to create my profile, loads a "CLUT Loader" that pops up each time I start my computer. Could this be doing the same thing as Adobe Gamma, and how is this different than having the profile I created be the Default profile?

David.
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brent bertram
Jun 10, 2005
David,
It sounds like the "clut loader" of Profile mechanic is doing the same job as the Adobe Gamma loader. I suspect that you don’t actually have a problem.
Your profile consists of 2 parts. One part is loaded into the video LUT at startup to adjust your display to the calibrated state created by Profile Mechanic. The second part of the profile is used during an editting session to accurately display the image . See this simple diagram , Ian Lyons Image Flow < http://www.btinternet.com/~ian.lyons/ps7-colour/ps7_color.gi f>

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Brent
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David_Freed
Jun 10, 2005
Thanks Brent.

The only ‘problem’ is that the CLUT Loader that came with Profile Mechanic won’t work if Adobe LUT Loader is automatically starting at Start Up. I simply need to remove it from the Start Up folder and "replace" it with CLUT Loader — which will then open at Start Up and load my custom monitor profile.

I assume that whatever loader I use, the monitor profile will then be used by Photoshop. And I assume this is will make the "2 parts" of the profile that you spoke of work.

Thanks again, David.
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brent bertram
Jun 10, 2005
That’s my understanding, David . I think all is well

🙂
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David_Freed
Jun 11, 2005
brent, thanks again. So I don’t need to go into the color settings and select this monitor profile as the working space?

d,
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brent bertram
Jun 11, 2005
Do not use a monitor profile as a working space. Your working space should probably be AbobeRGB, a medium gamut space which is well suited for editting, and then either printing on photo inkjets or converting to a different space for a particular purpose. The primary purpose of your monitor profile during a Photoshop session is to make your image display accurate in a color managed workflow. Photoshop does the conversion automatically using the default system display profile. Once you’ve set your profile as the default ( as you have ) and loaded the video LUT at startup with a gamma loader executable , you’re pretty much done with the monitor profile.

If you have a CRT, though, expect to create a fresh profile occasionally because your display characteristics will change with age.

🙂

Brent
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Pipkin
Jun 11, 2005
Seems, it’s quite enough to put monitor profile into C:\Windows\system32\spool\drivers\color and set it as default in Color Management (Display Properties palette). Then Windows will load that profile when starting. No need have Adobe Gamma Loader in ‘Startup’.
Isn’t it?
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brent bertram
Jun 11, 2005
No, Pip
You need some utility to adjust the video LUT on startup to the calibrated state ( unless , of course, you have a perfectly calibrated display for your video card from the factory <G> ) .

There’s 2 parts to the calibration and profiling process and the results of both need to be "activated" for accurate color rendition.

🙂

Brent
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David_Freed
Jun 12, 2005
Yes, profile as default and loaded with CLUT Loader did the trick. thanks again. David.
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Pipkin
Jun 12, 2005
Thanx, Brent,
but I use color tuning (calibration) made by me with video card color settings (Gamma, Hue etc sliders in Control Center of card driver).
(I have ATI Radeon 9600 with 256 Mb and the latest drivers – Catalyst 5.6). Then, no reason of using Adobe Gamma.
Isn’t it?
🙂
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brent bertram
Jun 12, 2005
"Then, no reason of using Adobe Gamma.
Isn’t it?
:-)"

There’s a tough one ! <G>
I’d guess that if the driver adjustments are reflected in the display profile, then there’d be no reason to have the Adobe Gamma Loader function in startup. Adobe Gamma Loader is the "official" way of adjusting the video LUT, but other ways can also serve the purpose.

🙂

Brent
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Pipkin
Jun 12, 2005
Thank you, Brent, but in my occasion (video driver tunung) I don’t see necessity in Adobe Gamma… Thanx again!
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Michael_D_Sullivan
Jun 13, 2005
If you aren’t using a profile created in Adobe Gamma, then you shouldn’t have Adobe Gamma Loader installed. Delete it from your Startup folder or drag it to an Uninstalled Startup folder.

If you are using a profile created in another program, you should use the loader associated with that program for maximum benefit.

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