Using Colorvision ProfilerPlus with Photoshop CS2

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Sep 11, 2005
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I’m having a terrible time using the ProfilerPlus and would appreciate advice, either via links to good instructions or direct advice here.

What I have:
Windows XP-Pro machine
Adobe Photoshop CS2
Spyder2 and ProfilerPlus
Canon MP730 printer/scanner.

I’m a newbie CS2 user, though I’ve been working in a casual way with digital for quite a while (PSP). I’ve also finally decided to get the color calibration right, so I bought the Spyder2 and ProfilerPlus package by Pantone/Colorvision.

– Using the Spyder2 hardware software went smoothly so far as I can tell
– I followed the instructions easily for printing the calibration chart though it’s possible I didn’t get all the CS2 settings right – a checklist would be helpful.
– I scanned and had considerable confusion because the instructions say that I’m to set the gamma to "1.5". The MP730 driver has two gammas possible – screen or scanner. I created different profiles setting one or the other of those to 1.5 on different experiments (one affects the other)
– When I created and ran the profile I got HORRIBLE prints any way I tried it, washed out generally.

I’m clearly missing something basic and would appreciate directions that address:

1) How specifically should I set CS2 (and the printer) when printing the calibration chart.
2) How should I set the MP730 driver’s gamma and do they mean "monitor" or "scanner" – I would have thought 1.5 is low since PC gammas are usually 2.2
3) How should I set the CS2 to print once I’ve created the driver – the ProfilerPlus explanations don’t match what I see in CS2.

Many thanks for whatever advice you can provide.

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bmoag
Sep 11, 2005
You have alot of problems here.
First off you are trying to use sophisticated color management with a printer that at its best is not going to give you high quality photo prints. Secondly, it is a Canon and you are doomed to Canon color management hell. Thirdly color managed printer settings in CS2, particularly if using custom generated paper/printer profiles are not intuitive and vary by manufacturer. I have used Spyder and Monaco systems and both manufacturers provide good web based email support.

You will have to email Canon customer support and they are very good about emailing back a document to explain color managed printing using the Canon printer driver. There are two methods, neither of which are all that reliable compared to Epson. Canon will also send you their insane codes for their 4 paper surfaces (actually three as the characteristics of their 2 glossy surfaces are not much different) but no explanation as to why they cannot simply label the paper surface with its name. In my experience Canon’s color management protocols tend to yield prints that compared to the monitor lack contrast, color accuracy and saturation compared to prints made using Epson printers under the same circumstances. The Canon drivers have to be tweaked to see what the printers can really produce, which is what color management is supposed to minimize the user having to do.

First you need to see if your the monitor profile you created with the Spyder and the canned Canon paper profiles that ship with the printer driver are getting you in the ball park of color managed results. You need to understand the relevant software settings and problems before you start trying to apply custom paper/printer profiles. Under some circumstances the print preview will be in approximately normal color but print with the pink tinged caste of double color management; under other circumstances the print preview will look pink but print in proper color. To be fair Epson printer drivers, depending on the color management method used, can behave similarly.

With regard to monitor gamma: forget about anything in the printer driver as these issues are dealt with by Photoshop once you have calibrated your monitor. With Windows systems most users use 2.2 for gamma and +/- 6800 degrees for color temperature when calibrating their monitor. After you master the subject you may want to try other settings for monitor gamma. Once you have calibrated your monitor, and the settings generally must be made using front panel adjustments, make no other software changes with regard to these settings.

Also make sure you have turned off the Adobe Gamma Applet from loading at startup and make sure you understand about color spaces and have set up color management properly in Photoshop itself.

There is a learning curve to all this but it pays off, particularly if you get a higher quality photo printer.
WK
William Kazak
Sep 28, 2005
This conversation seems a little "intense" to me. I just bought a Canon ip8500 printer because I needed an 8×10 printer and the customer reviews are fantastic.
I was comparing this to an Epsom r800, whose reviews were terrible. Granted, they were not reviewing "calibration" but the Canon customers were very happy right out of the box with the Canon.
I am hoping to set mine up late this week.
William kazak
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WK
William Kazak
Oct 3, 2005
What?
No one can make a comment?
WK
William Kazak
Oct 22, 2005
"William Kazak" wrote in message
What?
No one can make a comment?
I will comment on my Canon ip8500.
The prints are fantastic right out of the box.
I loaded the 8.5×11 Canon Photo Pro paper in the top,gravity feed. Using the little front drawer,called cassette in Canon speak, I get paper jams.
I guess I don’ know how to load that cassestte properly, so I use the top gravity feed for now.
I have not tweaked any of the Canon settings.
All I do is select the paper and size of the desired print. I tell it bordered or borderless.
Occassionaly I will get an error message and a jpg pic won’t print. I suspect it is a question of memory or how the PSD became a jpg in Photoshop.
I use the Canon program to do the printing.
My prints are jpg-worked in Photoshop.
My monitor is calibrated in Photoshop.
My prints are great.
Color,sharpness and saturation are fantastic at that size of paper. This is a very handy printer if you don’t need large prints.

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