F***ng photoshop

"bmoag" wrote in message

In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure.
My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

B,

If this the first time that this has happened to you, you are very lucky. But this is the sort of thing that should only happen once, you will never make the same mistake again. Always, always always, work on a copy of any original file that you cannot afford to lose (open image and do a "save as" immediately) You have learned a costly and valuable lesson. Been there, lost work, commiserations.

Regards

MH

bmoag wrote:

when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.

There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option

While I certainly sympathize with your frustration over losing an important image, it isn’t a Photoshop problem. Even if PS had the kind of option that you’re talking about, I doubt it would have saved this image. The option would either be off by default, in which case a user would only turn it on *after* experiencing a file loss, or it would be on by default, in which case it would have annoyed the user to the point where he’d have long since turned it off.

What you need, and I think you know this now, is not a change to PS, but rather a change to your workflow. It can be a small or large change, depending on your preference, but wither way will save you from having to deal with this again.

Small change approach: first thing you do with every new image, before you ever even think about firing up PS, is back it up to a different location. An external USB hard drive, CD/DVD burner, whatever. At worst you might lose the work you’ve done on an image, but you’ll never lose your original image file.

Large change approach: In addition to the above, you set up a version control system that requires you to check out and in a file before and after working on it. You’ll not only have the original, you’ll have every work point along the way that you can recover. You can set one of these up for free (several open source VCS applications out there) but it does require a good deal of technical skill, as well as an initial learning curve.

Whatever you do, welcome to the club. It seems that most of us don’t really learn to add that extra backup step to our workflow until we’ve been burned. I lost the original source file of one of my favorite images in a hard drive crash last year, and now I’m stuck with a much lower resolution version I had stored elsewhere.

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www.ericschreiber.com

"bmoag" wrote in message

In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure.
My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

Not a Photoshop problem, your problem.

bmoag wrote:

In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure.
My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

I assume you have a back-up of your ‘precious’ image – As others have said NEVER work on an original image and make sure you have back-up copies – Trust me you WILL only do this once…

"bmoag" wrote in message

In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure.
My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

I’ve made the same mistake lot’s of times, until I found the solution. In fact, this is not a PS issue, but a Windows one (With Mac I don’t know, but my solution still works). When you overwrite a file in Windows you don’t have the undelete option, unless you save the file in, for example, a NetWare file system.

What I did was this:
I ALWAYS flag my originals as Read-Only. When I choose "Save" I automaticly end up in the "Save as" dialog.

Et voila!
_______________________________
There’s no such thing as a final frontier
/DT, Stockholm, Sweden

"bmoag" wrote in
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In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure. My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

Yes, the answer was found a long time ago.

Its called "backups"

It’s a relativly simple system with a few simple Rules

1) Never work on the original image.

2) Backups should always be on a different storage media

3) Save a new file giving it a name as soon as you create it.

4) Save often.

5) backlup frequently

And you’ll never find yourself in that situarion again.

—
‘Mirror mirror on the wall who is the prettiest of them all?’ ‘Snow White you dirty bitch and don’t you forget it!’

What a good idea!!! Read Only – then check the Save as a Copy box and no more problems about making copies to keep as originals. Obviously a backup of everything is still needed. I suppose this is old hat to most of you?

Regards,

Geoff.
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"bmoag" wrote in message

In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure.
My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

I’ve made the same mistake lot’s of times, until I found the solution. In fact, this is not a PS issue, but a Windows one (With Mac I don’t know, but my solution still works). When you overwrite a file in Windows you don’t have the undelete option, unless you save the file in, for example, a NetWare file system.

What I did was this:
I ALWAYS flag my originals as Read-Only. When I choose "Save" I automaticly end up in the "Save as" dialog.

Et voila!
_______________________________
There’s no such thing as a final frontier
/DT, Stockholm, Sweden

After losing a particularly valuable image (and nearly around the same time learning about jpeg and its "lossy" compression), I started doing this after getting the new files
from my camera:

1. Batch convert them all from jpg to TIFF.

2. Put them in their own folder "Originals"

3. Copy those same files to a new "Working Copy" folder

4. Once completed, I rename "Working Copy" to "Final Edits", and burn BOTH folders onto a CD.

Works great for me, and it’s not really a lot of extra work or anything.

-Bryan

On 4/22/2006 11:40 AM, bmoag wrote:

In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure.
My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

—

"Wer keine fremde Sprache spricht, kennt seine Muttersprache nicht." -Goethe

"bmoag" wrote in message

In order to save time for a specific print I made some changes to an image with no attention to saving it in that state. Unfortunately when I closed the image I was distracted and accidentally clicked "yes" on the save button. Now the original is lost.
It may not have been the Mona Lisa but it was important to me. There should be an option in Photoshop such that a changed image cannot be stored under the same file name–one could choose or not to implement this option instead of having to remember every single of the hundreds of times a day one opens a file that you have to work with the same rigid mentality as Photoshop’s inflexible command structure.
My fault for working like a human instead of an inflexible computer menu hierarchy. Adobe, Microsoft, Apple: none of them have figured out how to escape this tyrannic inflexibility.

I think you got the title of the thread wrong – I’ve amended.

There’s an old saying:
"A bad workman always blames his tools"

Your original was in a different format then the default photoshop
[.psd] format when you "accidentally" just hit the save command in
Photoshop which saved it in the "psd" format. .So, your original image should still be on your hard drive from which you accessed the image from the photoshop "open" command.