Photoshop CS2 and virus checker

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philo
May 25, 2006
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I’ve recently built a new machine mainly for using Photoshop CS-2 Although it works fine…I’ve noticed that the virus checker (Avast) , if left on will occasionally cause Photoshop to crash.
There has *never* been a problem if Avast is turned off…

Does anyone know of a *free* virsus checker that will in no way interfere with Photoshop?

Even a non-free virus checker recommendation would be considered

thank you

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Mike Hyndman
May 25, 2006
"philo" wrote in message
I’ve recently built a new machine mainly for using Photoshop CS-2 Although it works fine…I’ve noticed that the virus checker (Avast) , if left on will occasionally cause Photoshop to crash.
There has *never* been a problem if Avast is turned off…
Does anyone know of a *free* virsus checker that will in no way interfere with Photoshop?

Even a non-free virus checker recommendation would be considered
thank you
Grisoft’s AVG free edition. http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

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philo
May 25, 2006
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Even a non-free virus checker recommendation would be considered
thank you
Grisoft’s AVG free edition. http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

For some reason, when I first built the machine I tried AVG but could not get it to work right…
Perhaps I’ll give it another try
thank you
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Edgar
May 25, 2006
"philo" wrote in message
I’ve recently built a new machine mainly for using Photoshop CS-2 Although it works fine…I’ve noticed that the virus checker (Avast) , if left on will occasionally cause Photoshop to crash.
There has *never* been a problem if Avast is turned off…
Does anyone know of a *free* virsus checker that will in no way interfere with Photoshop?

Even a non-free virus checker recommendation would be considered
thank you

I’ve used CS2 with PCcillin, and highly recomend them for a paid version, never had any problems. On another computer I use PS8 with Avast and never had any problems, but something might be different in CS2. I would NOT use AVG, it has gotten bad since its new version came out, bloated and it has missed things for me. Under the standard shield settings in Avast there should be a place to input a path that will not be monitored. I would try putting the CS2 path in there.

The only other free one I know of is AntiVir, which I haven’t heard much about

http://www.free-av.com/

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philo
May 25, 2006
I’ve used CS2 with PCcillin, and highly recomend them for a paid version, never had any problems. On another computer I use PS8 with Avast and
never
had any problems, but something might be different in CS2. I would NOT
use
AVG, it has gotten bad since its new version came out, bloated and it has missed things for me. Under the standard shield settings in Avast there should be a place to input a path that will not be monitored. I would try putting the CS2 path in there.

The only other free one I know of is AntiVir, which I haven’t heard much about

http://www.free-av.com/

Thanks for the good advice…

I’ll either take photoshop out of the monitored path or else try free-av

Otherwise…I might as well pay for PCcillin
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bmoag
May 26, 2006
If your computer is crashing when the virus program is turned on and not when the virus program is turned off the problem is probably not the virus program but the way your computer is set up. AVG is in fact a very efficient anti-virus program, compared to Norton for example, in the way it uses system resources. You most likely are running too many background programs that are hogging Windows resources. Even XP is plagued with the structural problem of all Windows OS: a limited number "stacks and heaps" by which the OS keeps track of what is where in memory. You also may not have Windows’ virtual memory and PS scratch disks set up properly. There are many resources to guide you through the MSCONFIG applet your start-up file to strip out unnecessary background programs.
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Clyde
May 26, 2006
philo wrote:
I’ve recently built a new machine mainly for using Photoshop CS-2 Although it works fine…I’ve noticed that the virus checker (Avast) , if left on will occasionally cause Photoshop to crash.
There has *never* been a problem if Avast is turned off…
Does anyone know of a *free* virsus checker that will in no way interfere with Photoshop?

Even a non-free virus checker recommendation would be considered
thank you

Hum, I’ve been using Avast! Home for years and never had a problem with it screwing up anything. CS and CS2 have worked fine with it.

The only app I’ve ever had conflict with Photoshop is iTunes. Every now and then iTunes will freeze or crash Photoshop. I’ve seen this for years on Windows XP and OS X. I’ve seen it through several hardware and OS rebuilds. I just tried it again with the latest iTunes and it will still do it on occasion. Alas, that keeps me using Windows Media Player – which has no problems with Photoshop.

Clyde
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Gambo
May 26, 2006
I have been using AVG without incident…

Clyde wrote:
philo wrote:
I’ve recently built a new machine mainly for using Photoshop CS-2 Although it works fine…I’ve noticed that the virus checker (Avast) , if left on will occasionally cause Photoshop to crash.
There has *never* been a problem if Avast is turned off…
Does anyone know of a *free* virsus checker that will in no way interfere with Photoshop?

Even a non-free virus checker recommendation would be considered
thank you

Hum, I’ve been using Avast! Home for years and never had a problem with it screwing up anything. CS and CS2 have worked fine with it.
The only app I’ve ever had conflict with Photoshop is iTunes. Every now and then iTunes will freeze or crash Photoshop. I’ve seen this for years on Windows XP and OS X. I’ve seen it through several hardware and OS rebuilds. I just tried it again with the latest iTunes and it will still do it on occasion. Alas, that keeps me using Windows Media Player – which has no problems with Photoshop.

Clyde
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philo
May 26, 2006
"bmoag" wrote in message
If your computer is crashing when the virus program is turned on and not when the virus program is turned off the problem is probably not the virus program but the way your computer is set up. AVG is in fact a very
efficient
anti-virus program, compared to Norton for example, in the way it uses system resources. You most likely are running too many background programs that are hogging Windows resources. Even XP is plagued with the structural problem of all Windows OS: a limited number "stacks and heaps" by which
the
OS keeps track of what is where in memory. You also may not have Windows’ virtual memory and PS scratch disks set up properly. There are many resources to guide you through the MSCONFIG applet your start-up file to strip out unnecessary background programs.

Well the machine really runs nothing but Photoshop…
I built it mainly for just running that one application.

When Avast is turned off, the machine works 100% perfectly… it *only* has the problem when Avast is on.

There is very little in startup and I know the scratch disks are setup ok… Plus…the machine has 2 gigs of RAM
the problem appeared right after Avast was installed…so I was able to trace it to that quite easily.

BTW: In general I’ve found that many of the free anti-virus apps are better than the ones you pay for…
as they are usually a lot lighter on resources
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Juergen Heinzl
May 26, 2006
philo schrieb:
"bmoag" wrote in message
If your computer is crashing when the virus program is turned on and not when the virus program is turned off the problem is probably not the virus program but the way your computer is set up. AVG is in fact a very
efficient
anti-virus program, compared to Norton for example, in the way it uses system resources. You most likely are running too many background programs that are hogging Windows resources. Even XP is plagued with the structural problem of all Windows OS: a limited number "stacks and heaps" by which
the
OS keeps track of what is where in memory. You also may not have Windows’ virtual memory and PS scratch disks set up properly. There are many resources to guide you through the MSCONFIG applet your start-up file to strip out unnecessary background programs.

Well the machine really runs nothing but Photoshop…
I built it mainly for just running that one application.
When Avast is turned off, the machine works 100% perfectly… it *only* has the problem when Avast is on.
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Slightly OT — since most viruses come via mail and if you’ve got XP Pro you may just switch Avast off while working with PS.

The thing is XP Pro allows to configure path rules which means you can inhibit executable from being run from certain paths (here for instance the one where all attachments end up).

In addition I do use a separate account for doing my photography related stuff. Unfortunately with administrative rights as my scanner application requires it and although there ways to get that done, too I just cannot be bothered as everything else I use to do with my "low on rights" account.

the problem appeared right after Avast was installed…so I was able to trace it to that quite easily.
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Could be a hardware related problem, too I think. For instance when loading / saving large files and if you’ve configured Avast such that it scans everything when reading / writing that is going to burn a few CPU cycles (heat) plus it could be a problem with your memory where Avast is loaded into.

Now XP allows you to tell the system it’d use less than the installed memory and it may be worth a try to see how things are going with say 1GB instead of two.

See the maxmem option …
http://www.microsoft.com/germany/technet/prodtechnol/winxppr o/reskit/c29621675.mspx …. and although it says "germany" — the article *is* in English 😎

Perhaps it’ll unveil something although I must admit not having problems. A 2GB machine, too and often pretty loaded so it probably isn’t a fundamental XP problem.

Only one question left – do you use any scanner software to import pictures into PS? It’s for that could be a problem in cases where virus scanners monitor network connections and you’ve a scanner connected via Firewire.

It might just be something simple and stupid in the end — as usual 😎 Juergen
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philo
May 27, 2006
Well the machine really runs nothing but Photoshop…
I built it mainly for just running that one application.
When Avast is turned off, the machine works 100% perfectly… it *only* has the problem when Avast is on.
[]
Slightly OT — since most viruses come via mail and if you’ve got XP Pro you may just switch Avast off while working with PS.

The thing is XP Pro allows to configure path rules which means you can inhibit executable from being run from certain paths (here for instance the one where all attachments end up).

In addition I do use a separate account for doing my photography related stuff. Unfortunately with administrative rights as my scanner application requires it and although there ways to get that done, too I just cannot be bothered as everything else I use to do with my "low on rights" account.

the problem appeared right after Avast was installed…so I was able to trace it to that quite easily.
[]
Could be a hardware related problem, too I think. For instance when loading / saving large files and if you’ve configured Avast such that it scans everything when reading / writing that is going to burn a few CPU cycles (heat) plus it could be a problem with your memory where Avast is loaded into.

Now XP allows you to tell the system it’d use less than the installed memory and it may be worth a try to see how things are going with say 1GB instead of two.

See the maxmem option …
http://www.microsoft.com/germany/technet/prodtechnol/winxppr o/reskit/c29621675.mspx
… and although it says "germany" — the article *is* in English 😎
Perhaps it’ll unveil something although I must admit not having problems. A 2GB machine, too and often pretty loaded so it probably isn’t a fundamental XP problem.

Only one question left – do you use any scanner software to import pictures into PS? It’s for that could be a problem in cases where virus scanners monitor network connections and you’ve a scanner connected via Firewire.

The machine has no scanner on it.
I built it for my girlfriend.

Anyway I have just uninstalled Avast and loaded Free-AV
if that works we will just leave the machine like that.

Otherwise…since the machine is duel booting XP-32 bit and XP-64 bit…

I’ll probably suggest to my girlfriend to just use XP-64 bit with no virus checker
for doing Photoshop only…
then boot over to XP-32 bit for everything else.
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Mike Hyndman
May 27, 2006
"philo" wrote in message
Well the machine really runs nothing but Photoshop…
I built it mainly for just running that one application.
When Avast is turned off, the machine works 100% perfectly… it *only* has the problem when Avast is on.
[]
Slightly OT — since most viruses come via mail and if you’ve got XP Pro you may just switch Avast off while working with PS.

The thing is XP Pro allows to configure path rules which means you can inhibit executable from being run from certain paths (here for instance the one where all attachments end up).

In addition I do use a separate account for doing my photography related stuff. Unfortunately with administrative rights as my scanner application requires it and although there ways to get that done, too I just cannot be bothered as everything else I use to do with my "low on rights" account.

the problem appeared right after Avast was installed…so I was able to trace it to that quite easily.
[]
Could be a hardware related problem, too I think. For instance when loading / saving large files and if you’ve configured Avast such that it scans everything when reading / writing that is going to burn a few CPU cycles (heat) plus it could be a problem with your memory where Avast is loaded into.

Now XP allows you to tell the system it’d use less than the installed memory and it may be worth a try to see how things are going with say 1GB instead of two.

See the maxmem option …
http://www.microsoft.com/germany/technet/prodtechnol/winxppr o/reskit/c29621675.mspx
… and although it says "germany" — the article *is* in English 😎
Perhaps it’ll unveil something although I must admit not having problems. A 2GB machine, too and often pretty loaded so it probably isn’t a fundamental XP problem.

Only one question left – do you use any scanner software to import pictures into PS? It’s for that could be a problem in cases where virus scanners monitor network connections and you’ve a scanner connected via Firewire.

The machine has no scanner on it.
I built it for my girlfriend.

Anyway I have just uninstalled Avast and loaded Free-AV
if that works we will just leave the machine like that.

Otherwise…since the machine is duel booting XP-32 bit and XP-64 bit…
I’ll probably suggest to my girlfriend to just use XP-64 bit with no virus checker
for doing Photoshop only…
then boot over to XP-32 bit for everything else.

Have you checked the performance tab in TaskManager when both PS and AV are running? Lot of info there re CPU usage and Commit charge. Also, anything to see in Control Panel> Admin Tools> Event Viewer> Application Error Records.

MH
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philo
May 27, 2006
<snip>
Have you checked the performance tab in TaskManager when both PS and AV are running? Lot of info there re CPU usage and Commit charge. Also, anything to see in Control Panel> Admin Tools> Event Viewer> Application Error Records.

MH

Well I just decided to uninstall Avast
and have now installed Free-AV

The machine is working perfectly now…

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