Are flat screen LCD monitors ready?

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Aug 8, 2006
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I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………

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Steven Wandy
Aug 8, 2006
You are probably going to get a lot of very divergent opinions. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 213T LCD and am very happy with tie way it works with PSCS2 and some other photo programs. I use Monaco to calibrate it. Many people will say that unless you get one of the very high end ones the black will not be as good as a CRT monitor. Maybe for professional use that is true (don’t know your situation – I have what I feel is a very decerning eye but I am not a professional either photographer or graphic designer), but for most others the LCD’s have improved greatly over the past few years.

I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
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Bobby77501
Aug 8, 2006
Thank you…..

"Steven Wandy" wrote in message
You are probably going to get a lot of very divergent opinions. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 213T LCD and am very happy with tie way it works with PSCS2 and some other photo programs. I use Monaco to calibrate it. Many people will say that unless you get one of the very high end ones the black will not be as good as a CRT monitor. Maybe for professional use that is true (don’t know your situation – I have what I feel is a very decerning eye but I am not a professional either photographer or graphic designer), but for most others the LCD’s have improved greatly over the past few years.

I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve
understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
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jaSPAMc
Aug 8, 2006
If you can, borrow one you think you’ll buy and use it for a while. Some find that the illumination source is ‘extra blue’ (extending beyond the percieved visible) and hurts thair eyes after moderate use periods.

Personally, I don’t like them.

You are probably going to get a lot of very divergent opinions. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 213T LCD and am very happy with tie way it works with PSCS2 and some other photo programs. I use Monaco to calibrate it. Many people will say that unless you get one of the very high end ones the black will not be as good as a CRT monitor. Maybe for professional use that is true (don’t know your situation – I have what I feel is a very decerning eye but I am not a professional either photographer or graphic designer), but for most others the LCD’s have improved greatly over the past few years.

I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
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Bobby77501
Aug 8, 2006
Thanks…

"Sir F. A. Rien" wrote in message
If you can, borrow one you think you’ll buy and use it for a while. Some find that the illumination source is ‘extra blue’ (extending beyond the percieved visible) and hurts thair eyes after moderate use periods.
Personally, I don’t like them.

You are probably going to get a lot of very divergent opinions. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 213T LCD and am very happy with tie way it works with PSCS2 and some other photo programs. I use Monaco to calibrate it. Many people will say that unless you get one of the very high end ones the black will not be as good as a CRT monitor. Maybe for professional use that is true (don’t know your situation – I have what I feel is a very decerning eye but I am not a professional either photographer or graphic designer), but for most others the LCD’s have improved greatly over the past few years.

I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve
understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color
work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for
purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
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Ed
Aug 8, 2006
-Nisko- wrote:
I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
I had a CRT that was on it’s way out and researched LCD’s. I zoomed in on a Samsung and an LG. I bought the LG Flatiron with 1600:1 contrast ratio, 4ms response time, 1280 x 1024 resolution and 17" display. I don’t like the high res for general computing but for PS and graphics, it’s OK. I spent extra for this monitor and would not do it again. My advice, if you have the room, get a CRT. I am limited in space and it cost $25.00 US to dispose of a CRT in my City.
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Bobby77501
Aug 8, 2006
"Ed" wrote in message
-Nisko- wrote:
I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
I had a CRT that was on it’s way out and researched LCD’s. I zoomed in on a Samsung and an LG. I bought the LG Flatiron with 1600:1 contrast ratio, 4ms response time, 1280 x 1024 resolution and 17" display. I don’t like the high res for general computing

Please explain why not?

but for PS and graphics,
it’s OK. I spent extra for this monitor and would not do it again.

What else did you find that you didn’t like? Any information would be helpful.

My
advice, if you have the room, get a CRT. I am limited in space and it cost $25.00 US to dispose of a CRT in my City.
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Jimmy
Aug 9, 2006
"-Nisko-" wrote in message
I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
I first tried to locate a good CRT, but found the market was really limited. I finally went with a Viewsonic BP2030b and use Monaco Optix 2.0 to profile the LCD. I tried to calibrate and profile as I had done with my old CRT, however, I found the brightness to be too intense for me. Monaco suggests adjusting the brightness to suit the user, then profile from there. Much better results. I am not a photo professional, but do like to dabble a bit with CS2 and Rawshooter. I am happy with the move to a LCD.
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Bobby77501
Aug 9, 2006
Thanks!! Also, what is Rawshooter????

"Jimmy" wrote in message
"-Nisko-" wrote in message
I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
I first tried to locate a good CRT, but found the market was really limited. I finally went with a Viewsonic BP2030b and use Monaco Optix 2.0 to profile the LCD. I tried to calibrate and profile as I had done with my old CRT, however, I found the brightness to be too intense for me. Monaco suggests adjusting the brightness to suit the user, then profile from there. Much better results. I am not a photo professional, but do like to dabble a bit with CS2 and Rawshooter. I am happy with the move to a LCD.
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Jimmy
Aug 9, 2006
"-Nisko-" wrote in message
Thanks!! Also, what is Rawshooter????
It’s a program used RAW converter program. I have been using Rawshooter Premium for a while now and prefer it to Adobe’s Camera Raw. Rawshooter Premimum is no longer available as Adobe just recently bought out Pixmantec. http://www.pixmantec.com/
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Bobby77501
Aug 9, 2006
Thank you……is RawShooter available made by Corel?

"Jimmy" wrote in message
"-Nisko-" wrote in message
Thanks!! Also, what is Rawshooter????
It’s a program used RAW converter program. I have been using Rawshooter Premium for a while now and prefer it to Adobe’s Camera Raw. Rawshooter Premimum is no longer available as Adobe just recently bought out Pixmantec. http://www.pixmantec.com/
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Aaron
Aug 9, 2006
Steven Wandy wrote:
You are probably going to get a lot of very divergent opinions. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 213T LCD and am very happy with tie way it works with PSCS2 and some other photo programs. I use Monaco to calibrate it. Many people will say that unless you get one of the very high end ones the black will not be as good as a CRT monitor. Maybe for professional use that is true (don’t know your situation – I have what I feel is a very decerning eye but I am not a professional either photographer or graphic designer), but for most others the LCD’s have improved greatly over the past few years.

I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until
now, I’ve
understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good
color
work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in
preparation for
purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………

I think that LCD monitors are ready for professional use. You will hear some incredible sticklers say that they can’t compete with the highest end of professional CRTs, and to some degree they may be right, but as an entry-level professional, I couldn’t afford one of those top-of-the-line CRTs, anyway.

LaCie is into their second generation of color-calibrated LCD displays (complete with very professional-looking hoods just like their CRT predecessors), and there are plenty of other LCDs on the market with equal performance ratings.

Just remember, let the buyer *beware*! There are so many LCDs on the market right now that buying just any old LCD with a good sync rate and/or contrast ratio isn’t going to guarantee that it won’t completely screw up your colorspace. Right now on my desk at work I have two Dell-branded LCDs, a 17" and a widescreen 21". The 21" is by FAR more color accurate than the 17" (both calibrated with Monaco EZcolor Optix).

Samsung and Philips both make excellent LCD panels in their higher-end models, and Philips also manufactures the panels used in the Apple Cinema HD displays, such as the four-year-old 23" display I use at home for my serious work. I have had truly excellent experiences with that display (after calibration, of course), and so I would expect that a comparable higher-end Philips display would perform as well.

READ REVIEWS, especially on design- and photography-oriented websites before making the final purchase!

Let us know how you make out.


Aaron

"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest." — John Stuart Mill
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Jimmy
Aug 9, 2006
"-Nisko-" wrote in message
Thank you……is RawShooter available made by Corel?
I have little knowledge of Paintshop Pro, but according to this link RawShooter is included with PSP X. Since Adobe has acquired Pixmantec, it may be worth your time and effort to contact Corel to see if the included RawShooter will continue to be offered/supported in PSP X. Adobe is suppose to offer Adobe Lightroom to registered owners of RawShooter (not sure of the cutoff date on this offer).
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/psp/pspx.html
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Ed
Aug 10, 2006
-Nisko- wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message
-Nisko- wrote:
I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
I had a CRT that was on it’s way out and researched LCD’s. I zoomed in on a Samsung and an LG. I bought the LG Flatiron with 1600:1 contrast ratio, 4ms response time, 1280 x 1024 resolution and 17" display. I don’t like the high res for general computing

Please explain why not?
My eyes are getting older and I have to strain to read some stuff. Setting to a lower res just makes text and icons fuzzy. I could put a crt down to the lowest res setting with no trouble.
but for PS and graphics,
it’s OK. I spent extra for this monitor and would not do it again.

What else did you find that you didn’t like? Any information would be helpful.
The brightness of the screen is uneven,when veiwing this and other text docs, making it tiresome to work very long.
I’ll be going back to a crt or I may buy a VeiwSonic or NEC lcd.
My
advice, if you have the room, get a CRT. I am limited in space and it cost $25.00 US to dispose of a CRT in my City.

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Bobby77501
Aug 10, 2006
Thanks very much………

"Aaron" wrote in message
Steven Wandy wrote:
You are probably going to get a lot of very divergent opinions. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 213T LCD and am very happy with tie way it works with PSCS2 and some other photo programs. I use Monaco to calibrate it. Many people will say that unless you get one of the very high end ones the black will not be as good as a CRT monitor. Maybe for professional use that is true (don’t know your situation – I have what I feel is a very decerning eye but I am not a professional either photographer or graphic designer), but for most others the LCD’s have improved greatly over the past few years.

I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until
now, I’ve
understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good
color
work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in
preparation for
purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………

I think that LCD monitors are ready for professional use. You will hear some incredible sticklers say that they can’t compete with the highest end of professional CRTs, and to some degree they may be right, but as an entry-level professional, I couldn’t afford one of those top-of-the-line CRTs, anyway.

LaCie is into their second generation of color-calibrated LCD displays (complete with very professional-looking hoods just like their CRT predecessors), and there are plenty of other LCDs on the market with equal performance ratings.

Just remember, let the buyer *beware*! There are so many LCDs on the market right now that buying just any old LCD with a good sync rate and/or contrast ratio isn’t going to guarantee that it won’t completely screw up your colorspace. Right now on my desk at work I have two Dell-branded LCDs, a 17" and a widescreen 21". The 21" is by FAR more color accurate than the 17" (both calibrated with Monaco EZcolor Optix).
Samsung and Philips both make excellent LCD panels in their higher-end models, and Philips also manufactures the panels used in the Apple Cinema HD displays, such as the four-year-old 23" display I use at home for my serious work. I have had truly excellent experiences with that display (after calibration, of course), and so I would expect that a comparable higher-end Philips display would perform as well.
READ REVIEWS, especially on design- and photography-oriented websites before making the final purchase!

Let us know how you make out.


Aaron

"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest." — John Stuart Mill
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Bobby77501
Aug 10, 2006
Thanks again……..

"Ed" wrote in message
-Nisko- wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message
-Nisko- wrote:
I’ve been using a LaCie CRT monitor for my Photoshop work. Until now, I’ve understood that LCD screens didn’t have the depth necessary for good color work. I’d like to hear some opinions on this subject – in preparation for purchasing my next monitor. Thanks………
I had a CRT that was on it’s way out and researched LCD’s. I zoomed in on a Samsung and an LG. I bought the LG Flatiron with 1600:1 contrast ratio, 4ms response time, 1280 x 1024 resolution and 17" display. I don’t like the high res for general computing

Please explain why not?
My eyes are getting older and I have to strain to read some stuff. Setting to a lower res just makes text and icons fuzzy. I could put a crt down to the lowest res setting with no trouble.
but for PS and graphics,
it’s OK. I spent extra for this monitor and would not do it again.

What else did you find that you didn’t like? Any information would be helpful.
The brightness of the screen is uneven,when veiwing this and other text docs, making it tiresome to work very long.
I’ll be going back to a crt or I may buy a VeiwSonic or NEC lcd.
My
advice, if you have the room, get a CRT. I am limited in space and it cost $25.00 US to dispose of a CRT in my City.
J
Jimmy
Aug 10, 2006
My eyes are getting older and I have to strain to read some stuff. Setting to a lower res just makes text and icons fuzzy. I could put a crt down to the lowest res setting with no trouble. The brightness of the screen is uneven,when veiwing this and other text docs, making it tiresome to work very long.
I’ll be going back to a crt or I may buy a VeiwSonic or NEC lcd.

If you are running WinXP, you might want to try the MS ClearType. This helped text document viewing on my ViewSonic LCD.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx
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Bobby77501
Aug 10, 2006
Thanks…I already have it installed (even though I use a CRT).

"Jimmy" wrote in message
My eyes are getting older and I have to strain to read some stuff. Setting to a lower res just makes text and icons fuzzy. I could put a crt down to the lowest res setting with no trouble. The brightness of the screen is uneven,when veiwing this and other text docs, making it tiresome to work very long.
I’ll be going back to a crt or I may buy a VeiwSonic or NEC lcd.

If you are running WinXP, you might want to try the MS ClearType. This helped text document viewing on my ViewSonic LCD.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx
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Misifus
Aug 11, 2006
Jimmy wrote:
"-Nisko-" wrote in message
Thank you……is RawShooter available made by Corel?
I have little knowledge of Paintshop Pro, but according to this link RawShooter is included with PSP X. Since Adobe has acquired Pixmantec, it may be worth your time and effort to contact Corel to see if the included RawShooter will continue to be offered/supported in PSP X. Adobe is suppose to offer Adobe Lightroom to registered owners of RawShooter (not sure of the cutoff date on this offer).
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/psp/pspx.html

Rawshooter is now an Adobe product.

-Raf


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Jimmy
Aug 11, 2006
"Misifus" wrote in message
Rawshooter is now an Adobe product.
Yes, I know RawShooter is now an Adobe product. Nisko questioned if RawShooter is available made by Corel. Corel did not make RawShooter, but has been offering it with Paintshop Pro X, as indicated in the URL that I provided. Now that Adobe acquired Pixmantec, I have to wonder if Adobe will honor any existing Pixmantec agreements with Corel and support RawShooter; or will Adobe push these users towards Adobe Lightroom 1.0.

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