Graphic Tablet Question

If you are on a tight budget the Graphire series of Wacom tablets are a good choice at about $100. They don’t have all of the features of the Intuos 2 series, but they can do most of what the Intuos can do. Circuit City stores stock them so you can probably try one out at a store near you.

If you go for the Intuos 2 series you will find the pen tilt sensing to be the most significant feature that’s not in the Graphire. The Intuos series are also a more substantial design (industrial grade). As far as the size of the tablet is concerned, the larger the tablet, the farther you have to move the pen to move the cursor (brush) across the screen (the size of the tablet relates to the size of your screen). It’s more a matter of how much room you have for the tablet than it is a factor of whether or not it has enough resolution to handle your needs. All of the sizes seem to have more than enough resolution to handle most anything. I found that the 6 X 8 Intuos 2 (mid size) was just right for me. I’m a photographer and I do a lot of photo processing and restoration work with it and Photoshop 7 but I’ve also used it with AutoCad, Orcad, Corel Draw, Illustrator, and Quark graphics programs and I frequently find myself using the pen instead of the mouse to do everything else including surfing the Internet. It’s very rare that my wireless mouse does anything more than hold notes from falling off the top edge of my monitor.

A tablet is just a replacement for your present mouse. You can use any tablet on any program just as you would a mouse (and a tablet comes with a wireless mouse), but the positioning capabilities are much better when you use the pen on the tablet. When used with a graphics program (doesn’t matter which one) a tablet with a pen makes all the difference in the world. —
Charley

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote in message

hi,

i would like to buy a graphics tablet to use with PS and much more often with Painter. i have just seen some artwork that has been painted digitally eithr in PS or Painter i am not really sure and i was quite impressed with the output and i started painting digitally myself and the mouse is not quite appopriate for that. i would like to buy one graphics tablet. i would like some recomendations on which model to buy.i have no experince in the Graphics tabet domain, all that i know about them i have read about it in this newsgroup. already know the brand, Wacom, ruler in its category. i would like one that is not too big, a B5 or A4 format

will

be ok and that has not much advanced stuff like included tft screen or

1024

sensitivity level. i would like one that has correct options and most important is that the tablet is more expensive than the software with

which

i am using with in other words not too expensive one. all that is required is the feeling holding a pen and paiting like if i was doing it on paper while looking at my PS workspace. all the rest doesnt matter really much.
thanks in advance for any adivce.

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———————————————————— ——— What is MORE Global than the Internet??

Sex, Violence, Death…..

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote

<snip>

thanks in advance for any adivce.

Umm… please learn what run-on sentences are.

Thanks,

On the basis of your experiences I got hold of a tablet today. Thanks for sharing!

thanks for the advice charley but i do not have any store which sells graphics tablet near me so i would rather buy it online and ooh i alomost forgot Nev i come here for PS and not to improve my grammar so if you don’t like my sentence construction just shut up and go away…

"Charley" wrote in message

If you are on a tight budget the Graphire series of Wacom tablets are a

good

choice at about $100. They don’t have all of the features of the Intuos 2 series, but they can do most of what the Intuos can do. Circuit City

stores

stock them so you can probably try one out at a store near you.
If you go for the Intuos 2 series you will find the pen tilt sensing to be the most significant feature that’s not in the Graphire. The Intuos series are also a more substantial design (industrial grade). As far as the size

of

the tablet is concerned, the larger the tablet, the farther you have to

move

the pen to move the cursor (brush) across the screen (the size of the

tablet

relates to the size of your screen). It’s more a matter of how much room

you

have for the tablet than it is a factor of whether or not it has enough resolution to handle your needs. All of the sizes seem to have more than enough resolution to handle most anything. I found that the 6 X 8 Intuos 2 (mid size) was just right for me. I’m a photographer and I do a lot of

photo

processing and restoration work with it and Photoshop 7 but I’ve also used it with AutoCad, Orcad, Corel Draw, Illustrator, and Quark graphics programs and I frequently find myself using the pen instead of the mouse

to

do everything else including surfing the Internet. It’s very rare that my wireless mouse does anything more than hold notes from falling off the top edge of my monitor.

A tablet is just a replacement for your present mouse. You can use any tablet on any program just as you would a mouse (and a tablet comes with a

wireless mouse), but the positioning capabilities are much better when you use the pen on the tablet. When used with a graphics program (doesn’t

matter

which one) a tablet with a pen makes all the difference in the world. —
Charley

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote in message

hi,

i would like to buy a graphics tablet to use with PS and much

more

often with Painter. i have just seen some artwork that has been painted digitally eithr in PS or Painter i am not really sure and i was quite impressed with the output and i started painting digitally myself and

the

mouse is not quite appopriate for that. i would like to buy one graphics tablet. i would like some recomendations on which model to buy.i have no experince in the Graphics tabet domain, all that i know about them i

have

read about it in this newsgroup. already know the brand, Wacom, ruler

in

its category. i would like one that is not too big, a B5 or A4 format

will

be ok and that has not much advanced stuff like included tft screen or

1024

sensitivity level. i would like one that has correct options and most important is that the tablet is more expensive than the software with

which

i am using with in other words not too expensive one. all that is

required

is the feeling holding a pen and paiting like if i was doing it on paper while looking at my PS workspace. all the rest doesnt matter really

much.

thanks in advance for any adivce.

—
———————————————————— ——— What is MORE Global than the Internet??

Sex, Violence, Death…..

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote

ooh i alomost
forgot Nev i come here for PS and not to improve my grammar so if you

don’t

like my sentence construction just shut up and go away…

Your phrase: "thanks in advance for any adivce".

I’m here for Photoshop too, but refuse to communicate about it using that trendy, almost unreadable kid-style writing: "dudes im like wanting to do kOOl stuf on thE net you no and like everyone will no what i mean its no big Deel who *reelly** cares hOw i do it__ so hey man, like tel Me evrything you no about c-plus Plus no whaT i mean dudes". Oh. My. God.

Increasingly precise technology discussed with increasingly imprecise kid-speak.

Shut up yourself… and take a class in basic writing skills.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:24:19 -0800, "Nev" wrote:

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote

ooh i alomost
forgot Nev i come here for PS and not to improve my grammar so if you

don’t

like my sentence construction just shut up and go away…

Your phrase: "thanks in advance for any adivce".
I’m here for Photoshop too, but refuse to communicate about it using that trendy, almost unreadable kid-style writing: "dudes im like wanting to do kOOl stuf on thE net you no and like everyone will no what i mean its no big Deel who *reelly** cares hOw i do it__ so hey man, like tel Me evrything you no about c-plus Plus no whaT i mean dudes". Oh. My. God.
Increasingly precise technology discussed with increasingly imprecise kid-speak.

Shut up yourself… and take a class in basic writing skills.

I would agree with this. The manner in which a person writes speaks volumes about his or her level of class, sophistication, intellect, manners, etc., etc. My biggest complaint is using "i" for "I".

wrote

The manner in which a person writes speaks
volumes about his or her level of class, sophistication, intellect, manners, etc., etc.

Ack… don’t get me started!

The overwhelming majority of my late teen/20-something college classmates are completely and utterly incapable of saying more than two sentences without using…

"I was like", "She was like", "You know", "I’m like", "You know", "We were
going like", "You know", "He’s like", "You know", "I’m like", "He’s like"
"You know", "Know what I mean?", "Dude, he’s like, you know", "I’m like",
"I’m like", "I’m like"….

I may vomit.

‘High tech’ educated, yeah. Yet they literally have no idea how to converse without using those godforsakenly unending truckloads of meaningless verbal filler. I kid you not: regardless of subject or who’s being addressed [each other/teachers/admin] they simply can’t do it.

Dude, I’m like, really wondering how they’re going to, like, talk or write to, like, supervisors, department heads, managers and, you know, customers when they graduate and start working at, like, real jobs with real money and, like, real responsibility. I’m thinking, like, who’ll have the patience to understand them or want to, like, do business with them.

I’m like, oh dude, it really sucks… you know?

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:48:05 GMT, "Charley"
wrote:

If you are on a tight budget the Graphire series of Wacom tablets are a good choice at about $100. They don’t have all of the features of the Intuos 2 series, but they can do most of what the Intuos can do. Circuit City stores stock them so you can probably try one out at a store near you.
If you go for the Intuos 2 series you will find the pen tilt sensing to be the most significant feature that’s not in the Graphire. The Intuos series are also a more substantial design (industrial grade). As far as the size of the tablet is concerned, the larger the tablet, the farther you have to move the pen to move the cursor (brush) across the screen (the size of the tablet relates to the size of your screen). It’s more a matter of how much room you have for the tablet than it is a factor of whether or not it has enough resolution to handle your needs. All of the sizes seem to have more than enough resolution to handle most anything. I found that the 6 X 8 Intuos 2 (mid size) was just right for me. I’m a photographer and I do a lot of photo processing and restoration work with it and Photoshop 7 but I’ve also used it with AutoCad, Orcad, Corel Draw, Illustrator, and Quark graphics programs and I frequently find myself using the pen instead of the mouse to do everything else including surfing the Internet. It’s very rare that my wireless mouse does anything more than hold notes from falling off the top edge of my monitor.

A tablet is just a replacement for your present mouse. You can use any tablet on any program just as you would a mouse (and a tablet comes with a wireless mouse), but the positioning capabilities are much better when you use the pen on the tablet. When used with a graphics program (doesn’t matter which one) a tablet with a pen makes all the difference in the world.

I’ve owned a couple Graphires and now have the Intuos 2 in both 4X5 and 12X18 size. The Intuous 2 is much better quality, and will give better service–if this were not true I wouldn’t have spent the additional amount. The Graphire mouse fell apart in about 3 months, and the tablet of the other one became erratic after about a year. The Intuos 2 units have never given any trouble whatever, and the mouse (if you use it) is far superior.

wrote in message

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:24:19 -0800, "Nev" wrote:

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote

ooh i alomost
forgot Nev i come here for PS and not to improve my grammar so if you

don’t

like my sentence construction just shut up and go away…

Your phrase: "thanks in advance for any adivce".
I’m here for Photoshop too, but refuse to communicate about it using that trendy, almost unreadable kid-style writing: "dudes im like wanting to do kOOl stuf on thE net you no and like everyone will no what i mean its no

big

Deel who *reelly** cares hOw i do it__ so hey man, like tel Me evrything

you

no about c-plus Plus no whaT i mean dudes". Oh. My. God.
Increasingly precise technology discussed with increasingly imprecise kid-speak.

Shut up yourself… and take a class in basic writing skills.

I would agree with this. The manner in which a person writes speaks volumes about his or her level of class, sophistication, intellect, manners, etc., etc. My biggest complaint is using "i" for "I".

While we’re discussing pet peeves, has anyone noticed the apparent confusion regarding the use of *then and than* ? It makes my hair hurt.

ok Nev ive got your point. when asking questions on the NG i’ll make sure before i post to forget all my childhood years and post in an adult language that you will understand and appreciate…

"Nev" wrote in message

wrote

The manner in which a person writes speaks
volumes about his or her level of class, sophistication, intellect, manners, etc., etc.

Ack… don’t get me started!

The overwhelming majority of my late teen/20-something college classmates are completely and utterly incapable of saying more than two sentences without using…

"I was like", "She was like", "You know", "I’m like", "You know", "We were
going like", "You know", "He’s like", "You know", "I’m like", "He’s like"
"You know", "Know what I mean?", "Dude, he’s like, you know", "I’m like",
"I’m like", "I’m like"….

I may vomit.

‘High tech’ educated, yeah. Yet they literally have no idea how to

converse

without using those godforsakenly unending truckloads of meaningless

verbal

filler. I kid you not: regardless of subject or who’s being addressed

[each

other/teachers/admin] they simply can’t do it.

Dude, I’m like, really wondering how they’re going to, like, talk or write to, like, supervisors, department heads, managers and, you know, customers when they graduate and start working at, like, real jobs with real money and, like, real responsibility. I’m thinking, like, who’ll have the

patience

to understand them or want to, like, do business with them.
I’m like, oh dude, it really sucks… you know?

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote

ok Nev ive got your point. when asking questions on the NG i’ll make sure before i post to forget all my childhood years and post in an adult

language

that you will understand and appreciate…

Huh? Who suggested forgetting your childhood years? Not me. And what’s "adult language"?

I merely point out [and clearly, many others agree] that routinely using run-on sentences, non-standard grammar & screwy punctuation makes ones messages harder to understand. We can’t see or hear each other on our screens [duh! Nev] so the easiest way to prevent
misunderstanding –*regardless* of subject and assumed audience coolness [or lack of]– is to write/type using standard 99% universally understood grammatical conventions.

I don’t write ‘correctly’ to… well… "put-down sloppy writers", but instead to make sure I’m understood by the widest possible cross section of readers, no matter their age or background.

Nev wrote:

"eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote

ok Nev ive got your point. when asking questions on the NG i’ll make sure before i post to forget all my childhood years and post in an adult

language

that you will understand and appreciate…

Huh? Who suggested forgetting your childhood years? Not me. And what’s "adult language"?

I merely point out [and clearly, many others agree] that routinely using run-on sentences, non-standard grammar & screwy punctuation makes ones messages harder to understand. We can’t see or hear each other on our screens [duh! Nev] so the easiest way to prevent
misunderstanding –*regardless* of subject and assumed audience coolness [or lack of]– is to write/type using standard 99% universally understood grammatical conventions.

I don’t write ‘correctly’ to… well… "put-down sloppy writers", but instead to make sure I’m understood by the widest possible cross section of readers, no matter their age or background.

I agree with you, is it really that much harder to write a sentence that is grammatically correct. I also have
the pet hate about the phrase ‘you know’, usually I will say ‘no, I don’t know’, that really throws people as
most don’t realise they are saying it. Worryingly it’s not just the kids, watch any television interviews with
celebrities and you will notice nearly all of them say it.

Stuart

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"Stuart" wrote

I also have
the pet hate about the phrase ‘you know’, usually I will say ‘no, I don’t know’, that really throws people as
most don’t realise they are saying it.

**I know**

Our illustration group’s Lead used it incessantly: "You know", "You know", "You know", "You know", "You know", "You…."

Nev wrote:

I don’t write ‘correctly’ to… well… "put-down sloppy writers", but instead to make sure I’m understood by the widest possible cross section of readers, no matter their age or background.

I have no problem with those who choose to post in complete sentences, with correct spelling and punctuation.

But there are people here for whom English is a second language. For the sake of providing a supportive environment and thus encouraging them to post, it’s good netiquette to simply ignore others’ errors in spelling and grammar.
—

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

"Mike Russell" wrote

But there are people here for whom English is a second language. For the sake of providing a supportive environment and thus encouraging them to post, it’s good netiquette to simply ignore others’ errors in spelling and grammar.

Oh I agree with you 100% about the ESL posters. Theirs, in my experience, are usually easy to spot, in large part because they always seem to make a good attempt at writing ‘proper’ [as opposed to slang] English. I never comment on them… just on those for whom English is clearly their first language.

I’m not Grammar Police by a long shot… well, maybe a little. I just don’t want to have to constantly translate what [a slowly increasing number of] fellow English posters are trying to say, and vice versa.

I’m going like, you know dudes, it takes like too much time. Know what I mean?

Nev wrote:

"Mike Russell" wrote

But there are people here for whom English is a second language. For the sake of providing a supportive environment and thus encouraging them to post, it’s good netiquette to simply ignore others’ errors in spelling and grammar.

Oh I agree with you 100% about the ESL posters. Theirs, in my experience, are usually easy to spot, in large part because they always seem to make a good attempt at writing ‘proper’ [as opposed to slang] English. I never comment on them… just on those for whom English is clearly their first language.

I’m not Grammar Police by a long shot… well, maybe a little. I just don’t want to have to constantly translate what [a slowly increasing number of] fellow English posters are trying to say, and vice versa.
I’m going like, you know dudes, it takes like too much time. Know what I mean?

Blame France – were it not for them Americans would be speaking English today 🙂
—

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:08:18 +0400, "eLeMEnTS ArTZ newbie" wrote:

thanks for the advice charley but i do not have any store which sells graphics tablet near me so i would rather buy it online and ooh i alomost forgot Nev i come here for PS and not to improve my grammar so if you don’t like my sentence construction just shut up and go away…

Kewl reply. Your awesome.

ok Nev i agree i screwed up on the post. lets forget all about it. i am beging to loose my sleep because of that…that was a joke if you didn’t understand…

"Nev" wrote in message

"Mike Russell" wrote

But there are people here for whom English is a second language. For

the

sake of providing a supportive environment and thus encouraging them to post, it’s good netiquette to simply ignore others’ errors in spelling

and

grammar.

Oh I agree with you 100% about the ESL posters. Theirs, in my experience, are usually easy to spot, in large part because they always seem to make a good attempt at writing ‘proper’ [as opposed to slang] English. I never comment on them… just on those for whom English is clearly their first language.

I’m not Grammar Police by a long shot… well, maybe a little. I just

don’t

want to have to constantly translate what [a slowly increasing number of] fellow English posters are trying to say, and vice versa.
I’m going like, you know dudes, it takes like too much time. Know what I mean?