In PS, be sure you have picked the proper profile in the print dialog box(Ctrl-Alt-P).
In the 9600 dialog box, turn off all color controls. Set your parameters to the right paper, resolution print speed etc. You can save these settings and call them up at will once you are up and running.
Note: The dialog in CS2 is different than CS. There is a tread about this here. Do a search or perhaps Ian Lyons can step in and clarify it.
My guess is that your settings are NOT quite the same between programs, otherwise the prints would look the same. Are you converting to your profile in PS or are you letting the driver do the conversion. I’d be willing to bet you are getting a double conversion somewhere in CS or CS2. Carefully revisit all of your settings, as they are definitely more confusing in CS than in 7.
I’ve checked everything five and six times. All my settings are correct. I’m doing the converting in PS. The print driver color management has been disabled. Is there a "ghost" setting somewhere in CS/2 I’m not aware of?
I’ve picked the proper profile, have turned off all color controls in the 9600 dialogue box and all the other stuff is correct. They’ve been saved for a couple of years. I’ve been printing to the 9600 for 3 years on 7.0 so I know what I’m doing as far as that goes. What I can’t figure out is why there should be a problem with CS/2. I’ve redone the profile just to be sure and it still doesn’t work in CS/2 but works fine in 7.0.
Both Cs and CS2, Jodi?
I’ve been printing with a 9600 for about 2 years now and have no problem with CS.
Yes, both. We had CS for a short period of time and couldn’t print from it so we got CS2 thinking that would solve the problem (among other things) but it didn’t.
Lawrence, are you on a network or just directly connected to your 9600? Maybe there’s a network issue that CS2 doesn’t like.
No, not on a network.
Jodi, can you show some screen shots of both the PS print settings and the Printer settings?
I sent it to your e-mail addy, Lawrence. Thanks.
Jodi,
You should post it here so everyone can see it and try and help you.
This is a VAST improvement but I’m still getting "blocked-up" color in the shadow areas. I’m gonna try "No Color Management" in the Color Handling dialog and see what happens.
Blocking in the shadows is too common in the 9600. ColorByte handles that by judicious handling of inking, but ColorByte is big bucks!
If you use "No Color Management" you have to revert also to printer color handling. One way or another, a profile needs to be used, and letting PS handle color while diabling color management in the printer usually results in a more accurate match to the screen.
The monitor is calibrated, right?
Yes, the monitor is calibrated. 🙂 I use Gretag’s Eye One for that.
The Photoshop-handled print definitely looks the best. I did one in sRGB and one in Adobe 1998 as well. They look similar with the sRGB one looking slightly better but both are blocked in the shadows. (sRGB is slightly less so.)
I’ll look into ColorByte. Thanks.
Also remember that Jodi is using a scanner based profile, which is dubious at best. I just sent her a target to make her a custom profile. I’ve profile many 9600 and 9800 papers and have not seen a problem in the shadows unless the file itself had a problem. I would help to post part of the problem file too.
Ok, here’s the link to the file I printed. All files are pretty much the same here so this is just as good as any. Shot with a Canon 1Ds Mark II, developed with Adobe Bridge.
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The file is basically alright, a little dark for my taste, but cleans up nicely when you move the shirt values up to around 245. The detail in the hair on the top of the head is going to be a challenge for any printer, but it is there and can be opened up quite a bit. The ACR exposure setting was -1.65, which I’m sure killed your shadow detail. What was the reason for pulling it down that far? It seems excessive?
You’re right, it is dark. The ACR is so low probably because 1) I don’t always get to set up the images myself (grumble grumble) for printing and 2) it was set up for printing the other way (7.0) and I always had to darken the images a tad to get them to print more or less correctly. I’ll have a look at the RAW file tomorrow evening in Aperture when I get my personal Mac back from the shop.
Judicious application of shadow/highlight control opens the values in the suit and a bit of the hair. That will then print nicely.
The top of the head will plug in an uncompensated Epson (read: standard profiles). IMO, you need to attend to the details of the image before trying to get it from a RIP.
I didn’t know she was using a scanner based profile, Peter. You have worked with her before I see.
FYI, for Working Space in Color Prefs, she picked the paper profile as the work space. If she also picked it in the Printer space, either way, it would account for the bad printing. I sent her my basic setup which mirrors Ian’s.
No, I just volunteered to make a good profile for her. I’ll get her target tomorrow and we’ll see how it goes from there.
