Photoshop CS2: .CRW images color shift…

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Allen_W
Sep 12, 2006
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Photoshop CS2:
Canon PowerShot S60 digital camera

My .CRW images’ colors look accurate outside of Photoshop. But when I open them in Photoshop, their colors turn more yellow. I’ve tried changing Photoshop color management settings to all the different presets and it doesn’t fix this problem. I notice a ! mark on the top right corner of my photos when I open my .CRW images…

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Why can’t Photoshop keep my camera’s color? Any idea how to fix this issue?

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chrisjbirchall
Sep 12, 2006
You need to profile your monitor using Adobe Gamma or, if it is an LCD, using a third party profiling solution.

For the full run-down on colour managament, spend fifteen minutes at <http://www.computer-darkroom.com>
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Allen_W
Sep 12, 2006
but i already have my monitor and adobe gamma set at sRGB. and photoshop is set at monitor color…
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chrisjbirchall
Sep 12, 2006
It doesn’t work like that. You didn’t spend that fifteen minutes did you?

You don’t set your monitor or AG to sRGB, you use Adobe Gamma to correctly profile your monitor in terms of the way it communicates with Photoshop. (read the "How To" in the help files)

Then you set Photoshop’s colour working space, not to the monitor profile, but to a working space suitable for your purposes. ie: if you only do web graphics sRGB will suffice. If you output for print, go for a wider gamut space such as Adobe RGB1998.

These are the foundations of creating a colour managed working environment.

CM is a huge subject. It can take a little time to understand it. Check out that link to Ian Lyon’s site.

Best of luck with it.

Chris.
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Allen_W
Sep 12, 2006
but I did use Adobe Gamma and have it measured and set. i already tried setting Photoshop to the web preset [which uses sRGB]…
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Cybernetic Nomad
Sep 12, 2006
Some people get fifteen minutes of fame, for now you need fifteen minutes at <http://www.computer-darkroom.com>
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Allen_W
Sep 12, 2006
so nobody know why this happens?
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LenHewitt
Sep 13, 2006
We ALL know why it happens! We’ve been telling you why it happens! Ill try shouting it:

IT HAPPENS BECAUSE YOUR COLOUR MANAGEMENT SETTINGS ARE INCORRECT

More specifically, because you do NOT have a good monitor profile being loaded.
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Allen_W
Sep 13, 2006
if my color management is incorrect, then how come this only happens to my .crw images and not the rest of my work?
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chrisjbirchall
Sep 13, 2006
Okay Allen. I’m looking back through your OP and trying to read between the lines.

When you said: "But when I open them in Photoshop…" did you really mean "When I view them in Bridge"?

Let’s go forward based on that assumption.

If you have the Adobe Camera Raw defaults set to "Use Auto Adjustments" then Bridge will take its lead from ACR and "Auto Correct" your images. There is, of course no such thing as Auto Correct. The setting should be labeled "Auto mess-up the correct setting you applied to your camera"!!

Open an image in ACR, Click the little arrow just under the Histogram and UNCHECK "Use Auto Adjustments" in the fly-out, then click on "Save New Camera RAW Defaults".

Now Bridge will display your files as YOU intended.

I trust this has moved things forward for you (not withstanding the need for proper colour management of course 😉 )

Chris
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Allen_W
Sep 13, 2006
the thumbnails display the proper colors in both bridge and photoshop. but when i open the actualy file in photoshop, the colors are yellowed. ive tried unchecking auto correct and resetting camera raw defaults, but that doesn’t fix the problem…
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Allen_W
Sep 13, 2006
isn’t there a way to open the .crw without having photoshop alter the color settings?
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chrisjbirchall
Sep 13, 2006
ive tried unchecking auto correct and resetting camera raw defaults, but that doesn’t fix the problem

Have you tried it with newly uploaded shots? It maybe that the "Auto Uncorrection" settings are still in cache for those particular files. Or that the cache is taking its time updating all the thumbnails.

Also. When you "Open the files in Photoshop" do you do so via Adobe Camera Raw? There is a setting in the Prefs to open the images directly into PS (using the parameters set in ACR) rather than opening the ACR dialogue. You should really open them via ACR to have full control over the settings.

Furthermore, once you get to know ACR, you’ll find that so very many of your adjustments can be done – non destructively and more accurately – before finishing off the edits in Photoshop.

The other advantage of preparing the images this way in ACR is that you can apply the same edits to a group of similar files much quicker than opening them one at a time in PS.

Chris.
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Allen_W
Sep 13, 2006
oh what the heck. for the time being ill just manually set my own white balance correction. but it just wierd how it defaults to being yellow when i reset settings…
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chrisjbirchall
Sep 13, 2006
ill just manually set my own white balance correction. but it just wierd how it defaults to being yellow

<sigh>

Allen. Unless your Colour Management is set up correctly, you’ll end up creating images which might look okay on your machine, whilst being off on the web and/or when you have them printed. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Go back to square one. Trash you preferences (both PS and Bridge) as detailed in the FAQs. Then redo your monitor profile using Adobe Gamma, or a third party alternative if you have an LCD monitor.

Then select your colour management settings, EDIT>COLOUR SETTINGS, making sure ACR is outputting your files in the same colour space as your PS working space.

Whichever working space you choose, remember to convert any images destined for the web to sRGB before saving them.

Colour Management is not optional. It is essential if Photoshop is to work correctly.

Chris.
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Allen_W
Sep 13, 2006
but everything is already using sRGB, including:

– winxp display properties
– adobe gamma [passes gamma pattern and color temp test] – photoshop cs2 color settings
– adobe camera raw
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chrisjbirchall
Sep 13, 2006
Allen. The point I am making is that something is wrong!

Trashing the Prefs may hold the answer. Whenever anything goes wrong, I always go back to square one. Do it all again. It’ll take less time than posting about it.

In doing so, follow the instructions for Adobe Gamma to the letter. Remember it is a visual adjustment which requires viewing conditions to be just right.

I don’t know about the XP colour profile thing. What I do know is that you should only be using ONE system to profile your monitor, otherwise they will interfere with one another.
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Allen_W
Sep 14, 2006
well if i can get acceptable white balance with my own adjustments, i think i’ll just do that for now. since every subsequent .crw image opens with my last used adjustments…

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