Freeze at Initializing AGM of PS CS2 startup

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Wolf_Eilers
Oct 8, 2006
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When I start PS CS2 9.02 my entire computer freezes at the "Initializing AGM" phase of PS startup. (This freeze requires a manual power down — the keyboard and mouse is non-responsive). Curiously, just before the freeze I hear what sounds like a disk arm grinding. Starting Bridge also causes a freeze. Other than CS2/Bridge all other apps work fine including PS CS and PS 7.01.

The PS knowledge base suggests disabling firewalls or services to see if something is interfering with PS. Needless to say, this did not work; nor did a complete uninstall, defrag, and install of PS CS2.

I have been running PS CS2 and Bridge with no issues for over a year. Both were at their latest versions (9.02 and 1.04).

What is AGM? Do I have a hardware issue? A software issue? Can it be fixed?

(Admittedly I have an older PC machine that may need replacing but until I do I use PC CS — works fine — but dearly miss Bridge.)

Here’s a snapshot of my system using PS CS:

Adobe Photoshop Version: 8.0 (8.0×118)
Operating System: Windows 2000
Version: 5.0 Service Pack 4
System architecture: AMD CPU Family:6, Model:4, Stepping:2 with MMX, SSE Integer Processor speed: 1000 MHz
Built-in memory: 1023 MB
Free memory: 694 MB
Memory available to Photoshop: 933 MB
Memory used by Photoshop: 75 %
Image cache levels: 4
Use image cache for histograms: No
Serial number: xxxxxx
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop CS\ Temporary file path: C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\ Photoshop scratch has async I/O enabled
Scratch volume(s):
H:\, 30.0G, 6.93G free
Primary Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop CS\Plug-Ins\ Additional Plug-ins folder: not set
Installed TWAIN devices:
Nikon Scan 4.0
EOS Kiss_N REBEL_XT 350D
Canon EOS 20D USB

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chrisjbirchall
Oct 8, 2006
nor did a complete uninstall, defrag, and install of PS CS2

Did you delete the Preferences file at the same time? The Prefs survives a reinstall. It may not be the cause in this case, but a duff Prefs can cause problems.
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Wolf_Eilers
Oct 8, 2006
Oh, I fogot to mention that my PS CS2 preferences were phyically deleted before starting. The AGM freeze persists.
CC
Chris_Cox
Oct 8, 2006
if Cntrl-Alt-Del doesn’t work, then that means you have a serious driver, system, or hardware problem.

AGM is the component used by Photoshop to render type, EPS and PDF graphics (sort of a rasterization engine).
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Wolf_Eilers
Oct 8, 2006
Thanks, Chris. What I was hoping was that I could replace the machine at my choosing rather that the machine’s choosing.

I’m curious, however, why PS7 and CS pass the AGM phase but not CS2?
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Klaas Visser
Oct 8, 2006
Based on your comment, that when you have the problem with CS2, there is a "grinding" noise, and it requires a system reboot to fix, I’d say your hard drive has a bad spot, right where the AGM module is, and will eventually fail.

The reason this is not affecting your v7 and CS installations, is that each version is installed in it’s own area on the hard drive, and the problem area on the drive is not getting accessed when you fire up the earlier versions.
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Chris_Cox
Oct 9, 2006
Wolf – that would depend on the exact nature of the problem. There’s still a good chance that it’s just a driver issue, or a corrupt OS install (and that could include viruses).
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xenophon
Oct 13, 2006
"Klaas Visser" wrote in message
Based on your comment, that when you have the problem with CS2, there is a "grinding" noise, and it requires a system reboot to fix, I’d say your hard drive has a bad spot, right where the AGM module is, and will eventually fail.

The reason this is not affecting your v7 and CS installations, is that each version is installed in it’s own area on the hard drive, and the problem area on the drive is not getting accessed when you fire up the earlier versions.

Wolf, if what Klaas suggests is the case, you may have an alternative to immediate replacement. If the issue is just a few bad sectors the drive is not necessarily on its last legs. It just sounds like it because of the dire sounds when it’s trying to seek to those sectors.

Something you can try is to run a chkdsk followed by a defrag, the combination of which will find bad sectors and mark them as such, then optimize the remaining disk space. You may still have to reinstall CS2 if the sector data from the bad sectors cannot be recovered (probable), but all the bad sectors will be marked at that time and you will probably get a good install.

I prefer the command line for this, so click Start|Run and enter "cmd," then press Enter. At the prompt, enter "chkdsk /R," which finds bad sectors and recovers readable data and fixes any other errors found (lost clusters, cross-linked files, etc.).

After this completes, when you’re back at the command line, enter "defrag c:," which will defragment the drive and leave you with large contiguous blocks of usable space. Depending on the size of the drive and the amount of fragmentation, you may want to go grab lunch and a nap while this process proceeds. At this point you are ready to reinstall CS2 if that was indicated as necessary.

Scott

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