save an image with no optimization

"gencode" wrote in message

I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing as far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the Web? When you choose save for the web, it opens with the optomized(reduced in size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying to save?

MH

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"gencode" wrote in message

I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing as far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the Web? When you choose save for the web, it opens with the optomized(reduced in size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying to save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image as a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as 236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem to.

Ed,

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"gencode" wrote in message

I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing as
far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the Web?
When you choose save for the web, it opens with the optomized(reduced in size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying to save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image as a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as 236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem to.

Ed,

9 PIXELS HIGH!!! What the hell is it a verse from the bible written on a grain of rice? 😉
I’m surprised text is even legible at that size, it would only be an eighth of an inch high at 72ppi with no room for anti aliasing. We are talking microsurgery here. What do you want to do with the image? What you have is a little grid of squares, some white, others, some other colour forming the text. When you "upsample" there is so little data to play with that it just makes the little squares into bigger squares, little "jaggies" into bigger jaggies.
Go to Image>Image size and read off the pixel dimensions and resolution, then with the resample image and contstrain proportions boxes ticked and the sample mode set to bicubic smoother, increase a dimension by a factor of 10, 20, 50 etc., and see what happens to the "quality" of the image. I have read that Irfanview actually does a better job of upsampling than PS due to better algorythms, never had to test it though as I don’t usually work with images that requires the Hubble telescope to view with;) With something this small, is it not possible just to just recreate it, how did you come by it?
Regards

Mike H

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I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing as
far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the Web?
When you choose save for the web, it opens with the optomized(reduced in size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying to save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image as a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as 236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem to.

Ed,

9 PIXELS HIGH!!! What the hell is it a verse from the bible written on a grain of rice? 😉
I’m surprised text is even legible at that size, it would only be an eighth of an inch high at 72ppi with no room for anti aliasing. We are talking microsurgery here. What do you want to do with the image? What you have is a little grid of squares, some white, others, some other colour forming the text. When you "upsample" there is so little data to play with that it just makes the little squares into bigger squares, little "jaggies" into bigger jaggies.
Go to Image>Image size and read off the pixel dimensions and resolution, then with the resample image and contstrain proportions boxes ticked and the sample mode set to bicubic smoother, increase a dimension by a factor of 10, 20, 50 etc., and see what happens to the "quality" of the image. I have read that Irfanview actually does a better job of upsampling than PS due to better algorythms, never had to test it though as I don’t usually work with images that requires the Hubble telescope to view with;) With something this small, is it not possible just to just recreate it, how did you come by it?
Regards

Mike H

The text is more than readable
A picture is worth a thousand words 😉

I put it here
http://gencode.media3.net/texttest.psd

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I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image
smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing
as
far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the Web?
When you choose save for the web, it opens with the optomized(reduced in
size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your
file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution
and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying to
save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image as a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as 236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem to.

Ed,

9 PIXELS HIGH!!! What the hell is it a verse from the bible written on a grain of rice? 😉
I’m surprised text is even legible at that size, it would only be an eighth
of an inch high at 72ppi with no room for anti aliasing. We are talking microsurgery here. What do you want to do with the image? What you have is a little grid of squares, some white, others, some other colour forming the text. When you "upsample" there is so little data to play
with that it just makes the little squares into bigger squares, little "jaggies" into bigger jaggies.
Go to Image>Image size and read off the pixel dimensions and resolution, then with the resample image and contstrain proportions boxes ticked and the
sample mode set to bicubic smoother, increase a dimension by a factor of 10,
20, 50 etc., and see what happens to the "quality" of the image. I have read that Irfanview actually does a better job of upsampling than PS
due to better algorythms, never had to test it though as I don’t usually work with images that requires the Hubble telescope to view with;) With something this small, is it not possible just to just recreate it, how
did you come by it?
Regards

Mike H

The text is more than readable
A picture is worth a thousand words 😉

I put it here
http://gencode.media3.net/texttest.psd

Ed,

It would take less than a minute to recreate this from scratch. It is just your text of choice with a guassian blur added. I increased the dimensions of your image, as listed above, by a factor of twenty. 176KB as a JPEG.

http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1qLyDoKp8vKY69ulTQ fefCfEBNxu1

Regards

Mike H

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Mike Hyndman wrote:

"gencode" wrote in message

I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image
smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing
as
far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the Web?
When you choose save for the web, it opens with the optomized(reduced in
size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your
file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution
and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying to
save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image as a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as 236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem to.

Ed,

9 PIXELS HIGH!!! What the hell is it a verse from the bible written on a grain of rice? 😉
I’m surprised text is even legible at that size, it would only be an eighth
of an inch high at 72ppi with no room for anti aliasing. We are talking microsurgery here. What do you want to do with the image? What you have is a little grid of squares, some white, others, some other colour forming the text. When you "upsample" there is so little data to play
with that it just makes the little squares into bigger squares, little "jaggies" into bigger jaggies.
Go to Image>Image size and read off the pixel dimensions and resolution, then with the resample image and contstrain proportions boxes ticked and the
sample mode set to bicubic smoother, increase a dimension by a factor of 10,
20, 50 etc., and see what happens to the "quality" of the image. I have read that Irfanview actually does a better job of upsampling than PS
due to better algorythms, never had to test it though as I don’t usually work with images that requires the Hubble telescope to view with;) With something this small, is it not possible just to just recreate it, how
did you come by it?
Regards

Mike H

The text is more than readable
A picture is worth a thousand words 😉

I put it here
http://gencode.media3.net/texttest.psd

Ed,

It would take less than a minute to recreate this from scratch. It is just your text of choice with a guassian blur added. I increased the dimensions of your image, as listed above, by a factor of twenty. 176KB as a JPEG.
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1qLyDoKp8vKY69ulTQ fefCfEBNxu1
Regards

Mike H

Yes, large will always help and jpg, but I need a transparent background, I just find it odd that I save as a gif with black background the text looks real nice, but save with transaparent and the text looks real poor.

These 2 were saved exactly the same way
http://gencode.media3.net/test.html

The top looks great, bottom looks bad, all I did was turn off the background layer.

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"gencode" wrote in message

I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save
and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I
want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized
version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to
do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image
smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing
as
far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the
Web?
When you choose save for the web, it opens with the
optomized(reduced
in
size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your
file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution
and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying
to
save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess
because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image as
a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes
And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem
to.

Ed,

9 PIXELS HIGH!!! What the hell is it a verse from the bible written on a
grain of rice? 😉
I’m surprised text is even legible at that size, it would only be an eighth
of an inch high at 72ppi with no room for anti aliasing. We are talking
microsurgery here. What do you want to do with the image? What you have is a little grid of squares, some white, others, some other
colour forming the text. When you "upsample" there is so little data to
play
with that it just makes the little squares into bigger squares, little "jaggies" into bigger jaggies.
Go to Image>Image size and read off the pixel dimensions and resolution,
then with the resample image and contstrain proportions boxes ticked and
the
sample mode set to bicubic smoother, increase a dimension by a factor of
10,
20, 50 etc., and see what happens to the "quality" of the image. I have read that Irfanview actually does a better job of upsampling than
PS
due to better algorythms, never had to test it though as I don’t usually
work with images that requires the Hubble telescope to view with;) With something this small, is it not possible just to just recreate it,
how
did you come by it?
Regards

Mike H

The text is more than readable
A picture is worth a thousand words 😉

I put it here
http://gencode.media3.net/texttest.psd

Ed,

It would take less than a minute to recreate this from scratch. It is just
your text of choice with a guassian blur added. I increased the dimensions
of your image, as listed above, by a factor of twenty. 176KB as a JPEG.
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1qLyDoKp8vKY69ulTQ fefCfEBNxu1
Regards

Mike H

Yes, large will always help and jpg, but I need a transparent background, I just find it odd that I save as a gif with black background the text looks real nice, but save with transaparent and the text looks real poor.

These 2 were saved exactly the same way
http://gencode.media3.net/test.html

The top looks great, bottom looks bad, all I did was turn off the background layer.

Ed,

I posted it as a JPG because there was no way to demonstrate the transparency. It was just an exercise in upsampling the original. I would still recreate it from scratch. I opened a new document the same size as yours and stuck the the text in and I couldn’t get it anywhere near the length of the original, it came out at 8 * 98 pixels and the quality was still crap. Are you using it in a webpage? Why can’t it just be typed onto the page or made into a button?

Regards

Mike H

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I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save
and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one I
want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized
version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying to
do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an image
smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing
as
far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for the
Web?
When you choose save for the web, it opens with the
optomized(reduced
in
size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of your
file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution
and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying
to
save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess
because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image as
a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed as
236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes
And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem
to.

Ed,

9 PIXELS HIGH!!! What the hell is it a verse from the bible written on a
grain of rice? 😉
I’m surprised text is even legible at that size, it would only be an eighth
of an inch high at 72ppi with no room for anti aliasing. We are talking
microsurgery here. What do you want to do with the image? What you have is a little grid of squares, some white, others, some other
colour forming the text. When you "upsample" there is so little data to
play
with that it just makes the little squares into bigger squares, little "jaggies" into bigger jaggies.
Go to Image>Image size and read off the pixel dimensions and resolution,
then with the resample image and contstrain proportions boxes ticked and
the
sample mode set to bicubic smoother, increase a dimension by a factor of
10,
20, 50 etc., and see what happens to the "quality" of the image. I have read that Irfanview actually does a better job of upsampling than
PS
due to better algorythms, never had to test it though as I don’t usually
work with images that requires the Hubble telescope to view with;) With something this small, is it not possible just to just recreate it,
how
did you come by it?
Regards

Mike H

The text is more than readable
A picture is worth a thousand words 😉

I put it here
http://gencode.media3.net/texttest.psd

Ed,

It would take less than a minute to recreate this from scratch. It is just
your text of choice with a guassian blur added. I increased the dimensions
of your image, as listed above, by a factor of twenty. 176KB as a JPEG.
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1qLyDoKp8vKY69ulTQ fefCfEBNxu1
Regards

Mike H

Yes, large will always help and jpg, but I need a transparent background, I just find it odd that I save as a gif with black background the text looks real nice, but save with transaparent and the text looks real poor.

These 2 were saved exactly the same way
http://gencode.media3.net/test.html

The top looks great, bottom looks bad, all I did was turn off the background layer.

Ed,

I posted it as a JPG because there was no way to demonstrate the transparency. It was just an exercise in upsampling the original. I would still recreate it from scratch. I opened a new document the same size as yours and stuck the the text in and I couldn’t get it anywhere near the length of the original, it came out at 8 * 98 pixels and the quality was still crap. Are you using it in a webpage? Why can’t it just be typed onto the page or made into a button?

Regards

Mike H

It can be typed into a page…but we want to use custom fonts…not just the few standard.

Yeah this is for a web page basically just like shown (with a lot more stuff :)), the reason it needs to be a transparent background is because the user needs to be allowed to change his background color based on his company colors…I guess the real problem is in the way PS does transparencies. I started with a new one and anytime I try to make text I always get blocky letters with transparent
backgrounds…but not with a fixed color.

I just don’t understand why its ugly with transparency and nice looking with a background color…oh well.

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I am trying to save an image with no optimization…I am trying Save
and Save For Web, when I use Save For web the Original is the one
I
want, that is 2k, but after saving I always get the 600k optimized
version, the resolution is not good enough for what I am trying
to
do.

Ed,

I’m not sure what you are trying to do, are you wanting to make an
image
smaller (optimizing) for speed of loading on a web page? If, so how big is your original image, 2K? What is it of? That’s nothing
as
far as an image goes. Do you you mean 2MB?
If you want to save it at its original size, why choose Save for
the
Web?
When you choose save for the web, it opens with the
optomized(reduced
in
size) view as default, choosing 2 up or 4 up will give you views of
your
file showing different numbers of colours and differing dithering
percentages. You then zoom in on the image that gives the best resolution
and load times and save that version. What file format are you trying
to
save?

MH

Hi Mike, no actually the opposite…the file is too small 😉 See this is a little text image, only 9 px high….anyhow what’s going on is I need to save this small text as GIF image with transparent background.

But when I save the image it always saves in the lower resolution image, about 640k and the text really looks kinda poor, blocky, I guess
because the image is so small…so what I want is to save the image
as
a GIF with no optimization at all…if that’s possible.

I am doing File > Save As
Type GIF

Also I have tried
File > Save For Web
and there I see 4 tabs up top
Original, Optimized, 2-up and 4up

Click on the Original tab and the file size at the bottom is listed
as
6.61k bytes
Click on the Optimized tab and the file size at the bottom is listed
as
236 bytes

When I save the file via the save button the image saves as 236 bytes
And the text is not near as smooth as the original

So what I want to do is save is with no optimization…but I cant seem
to.

Ed,

9 PIXELS HIGH!!! What the hell is it a verse from the bible written on
a
grain of rice? 😉
I’m surprised text is even legible at that size, it would only be an
eighth
of an inch high at 72ppi with no room for anti aliasing. We are talking
microsurgery here. What do you want to do with the image? What you have is a little grid of squares, some white, others, some other
colour forming the text. When you "upsample" there is so little data
to
play
with that it just makes the little squares into bigger squares, little
"jaggies" into bigger jaggies.
Go to Image>Image size and read off the pixel dimensions and resolution,
then with the resample image and contstrain proportions boxes ticked
and
the
sample mode set to bicubic smoother, increase a dimension by a factor
of
10,
20, 50 etc., and see what happens to the "quality" of the image. I have read that Irfanview actually does a better job of upsampling
than
PS
due to better algorythms, never had to test it though as I don’t usually
work with images that requires the Hubble telescope to view with;) With something this small, is it not possible just to just recreate it,
how
did you come by it?
Regards

Mike H

The text is more than readable
A picture is worth a thousand words 😉

I put it here
http://gencode.media3.net/texttest.psd

Ed,

It would take less than a minute to recreate this from scratch. It is just
your text of choice with a guassian blur added. I increased the dimensions
of your image, as listed above, by a factor of twenty. 176KB as a JPEG.

http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1qLyDoKp8vKY69ulTQ fefCfEBNxu1
Regards

Mike H

Yes, large will always help and jpg, but I need a transparent background, I just find it odd that I save as a gif with black background the text looks real nice, but save with transaparent and the text looks real poor.

These 2 were saved exactly the same way
http://gencode.media3.net/test.html

The top looks great, bottom looks bad, all I did was turn off the background layer.

Ed,

I posted it as a JPG because there was no way to demonstrate the transparency. It was just an exercise in upsampling the original. I would still recreate it from scratch. I opened a new document the same size as yours and stuck the the text in and I couldn’t get it anywhere near
the length of the original, it came out at 8 * 98 pixels and the quality was
still crap. Are you using it in a webpage? Why can’t it just be typed onto
the page or made into a button?

Regards

Mike H

It can be typed into a page…but we want to use custom fonts…not just the few standard.

Yeah this is for a web page basically just like shown (with a lot more stuff :)), the reason it needs to be a transparent background is because the user needs to be allowed to change his background color based on his company colors…I guess the real problem is in the way PS does transparencies. I started with a new one and anytime I try to make text I always get blocky letters with transparent
backgrounds…but not with a fixed color.

I just don’t understand why its ugly with transparency and nice looking with a background color…oh well.

Ed,

The only times I’ve used fonts in PS they have been for print on photo purposes and they had a resolution of 300ppi. This resolution allows you to use larger font sizes (less "jaggies") You are working at a less than a quarter of that quality for inclusion in a web page. The problem with using text as graphic in a webpage is that it is not scalable, the higher the screen resolution the smaller the text will appear.
I think that the difference you are seeing between transparent and solid backgrounds is due to the font colour and the anti aliasing. You had one on a solid black background which looked..hmm OK and a transparent one on a blue background the didn’t. Try a transparent one on a black background and see if there is any difference between it and a solid one, black background.

Regards

Mike H