Mutating layer effects

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jayeff
Feb 25, 2004
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I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image then mutates into a piece of crap. What fundamental am I missing here, is there a way round this problem? (I’m using 6.0 BTW)

I had a similar problem with a bevelled border that looked flat after I had flattened the image. I merged it with a layer using the same effects and it all stayed how I wanted it, but that approach isn’t making any difference with the bit I’m doing now.

What’s the point in giving you WYSIWYG when it bears no relation to the end result??!!

Jay

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john
Feb 25, 2004
In article <c1grfk$4mj$>, "jayeff"
wrote:

I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image then mutates into a piece of crap. What fundamental am I missing here, is there a way round this problem? (I’m using 6.0 BTW)

May I ask why you are flattening the layers? (I’ve never experienced this problem, otherwise I’d certainly answer.)
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jayeff
Feb 25, 2004
"jjs" wrote in message
In article <c1grfk$4mj$>, "jayeff"
wrote:

I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image
then
mutates into a piece of crap. What fundamental am I missing here, is
there a
way round this problem? (I’m using 6.0 BTW)

May I ask why you are flattening the layers? (I’ve never experienced this problem, otherwise I’d certainly answer.)

It’s for the background of the page layout in a publication, so needs to be a tif.

Jay
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Eric Gill
Feb 25, 2004
"jayeff" wrote in
news:c1gtgn$2uc$:

"jjs" wrote in message
In article <c1grfk$4mj$>, "jayeff"
wrote:

I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image
then
mutates into a piece of crap. What fundamental am I missing here, is
there a
way round this problem? (I’m using 6.0 BTW)

May I ask why you are flattening the layers? (I’ve never experienced this problem, otherwise I’d certainly answer.)

It’s for the background of the page layout in a publication, so needs to be a tif.

Upgrade to 7 and you can keep the layers and layer styles (and most everything else that PSD can) and still place it as a Tiff, no problems.

(If nothing else, at least do yourself the favor of downloading the 6.01 update).
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Warren Sarle
Feb 25, 2004
"jayeff" wrote in message
I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image then mutates into a piece of crap.

Could you be more explicit about the meaning of "awesome" and "crap"? Are you viewing at 100% magnification?
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john
Feb 25, 2004
In article , Eric Gill
wrote:

[…]
(If nothing else, at least do yourself the favor of downloading the 6.01 update).

FWIW, 6.01 doesn’t add the layer save option to TIFF. At least on the Mac.
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jayeff
Feb 25, 2004
It’s for the background of the page layout in a publication, so needs to be a tif.

Upgrade to 7 and you can keep the layers and layer styles (and most everything else that PSD can) and still place it as a Tiff, no problems.
(If nothing else, at least do yourself the favor of downloading the 6.01 update).

Ok thanks. Can’t afford it right now 🙁 but for a feature like that I’d be more inclined to stump up the readies.

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jayeff
Feb 25, 2004
"Warren Sarle" wrote in message
"jayeff" wrote in message
I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image
then
mutates into a piece of crap.

Could you be more explicit about the meaning of "awesome" and "crap"?

!

Are you viewing at 100% magnification?

Now that’s interesting, at 100% the flattened and unflattened versions look the same, unfortuantely my system isn’t powerful enough to keep up with me so I’ll have to cut some corners with the design. Exaggerating the effects in the psd version seems to get something I can live with when the flattening process smears all my lovely textures and dulls all the colouring and shading.

Jay
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Eric Gill
Feb 25, 2004
(jjs) wrote in
news::

In article , Eric Gill
wrote:

[…]
(If nothing else, at least do yourself the favor of downloading the
6.01 update).

FWIW, 6.01 doesn’t add the layer save option to TIFF. At least on the Mac.

It does (there is no dialog for "Save Layers", it just does so), but to my surprise I learned that the Layer Styles are not saved, making it something of a booby trap for people who use them.
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tacitr
Feb 25, 2004
I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image then mutates into a piece of crap.

Common complaint, but it’s not accurate.

Look at the image at 100% magnification. The flattened and unflattened versions of the image are always 100% pixel-for-pixel identical; the layer effects do not change.

However, when you zoom out, the flattened and unflattened versions may look slightly different, because the interpolated version you see on your screen when you zoom out may not be the same–because in the unflattened version, each layer and each effect is interpolated separately, and in the flatened version, they’re all interpolated together.

Always look at the image at 100% magnification when you are judging the effect of layer styles or effects.


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jayeff
Feb 26, 2004
Doh!

Ok thanks.

Jay

"Tacit" wrote in message
I’ve been wrestling with the layer style palette, trying to get a groovy corroded metal effect. Looks awesome till I come to flatten the image
then
mutates into a piece of crap.

Common complaint, but it’s not accurate.

Look at the image at 100% magnification. The flattened and unflattened
versions
of the image are always 100% pixel-for-pixel identical; the layer effects
do
not change.

However, when you zoom out, the flattened and unflattened versions may
look
slightly different, because the interpolated version you see on your
screen
when you zoom out may not be the same–because in the unflattened version,
each
layer and each effect is interpolated separately, and in the flatened
version,
they’re all interpolated together.

Always look at the image at 100% magnification when you are judging the
effect
of layer styles or effects.


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