Creating Yearbook Collage’s – Process/Procedure Questions

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Neese
Jan 31, 2007
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I’m using Photoshop CS vs 8.0 and I’m realitively new. I’m a parent working on a grammar school yearbook project and I’m creating a master photo per page in lieu of cutting the images out one by one and pasting them onto a layout board. I’ve spent a lot of time reading and would like to know if the process I’m using will produce quality images based on the information below.

Project Background Info:

I’m creating one master photo per page. Upon completion, the master file will be sent to a professional photo lab to be printed. It will be produced as a glossy print at the exact measurements of the layout board. Then I will rubber cement the photo to the layout board and the yearbook processing plant will scan the image in. Then the yearbooks will be produced in full color.

Steps I used to create master file:

1.) Width and height values entered in using inches. (Dimensions provided by Yearbook Processing Plant.)
2.) Resolution: 300 pixels/inch
3.) Color Mode: RGB Color – 8 bit
4.) Background Contents: Transparent
5.) Color Profile: working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
6.) Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square
7.) Created 1/4" guides all the way around to account for bleeds.
8.) Saved as template.

Steps I used to adjust image:

1.) Opened image and adjusted color.
2.) Sized image to 300dpi (Constrain Proportions checked)
3.) If the subject area I wanted to capture was too big I resized the image with Constrain Proportions and Resample Image:Bicubic checked. Changed height or width value in inches. (This is the method I used to retain the resolution of 300dpi)
4.) Cropped the image using a working path. Created a new layer, pasted in the image and cut the background out so it is transparent.
5.) Duplicated layer to master file.

Will this procedure accomplish my task. I want the yearbook to look as professional as I can possibly make it. Although I’m new to this product I’ve put a lot of time and effort into reading and learning as I go along. I’m just a parent who signed on to help my kid’s school and I’d really like it turn out nice.

Master file with text:

I created a 2nd master file using the procedures above excluding I set the resolution value(s) to 600dpi. This is a little bit of a gray area for me and I created the file based on what I read, but I’m not too sure I fully understand it. My goal is to make a few pages with pictures and text. Kind of like a scrap book page.

1.) The background is filled with black.
2.) Using styles I put a golden tone frame around each picture.
3.) Created a text box next to each picture using the following valyes:

Font: Helvetica using the same golden tone. Set at medium, 120px and Strong.

I’ve never done this before and I’m concerend that the text won’t produce properly. Any thoughts or opionions?

Processing Plant Cavaet:

As of yesterday, the processing plant gave me different layout boards to use which are smaller than the original size. So, my final question. If the steps I followed above are correct, I don’t want to have to recreate the work I’ve done so far. The original board dimensions were 8.5×11. The new boards are 7.75×10.5. Is there a preferred method to use to make this change?

Thank you in advance for your consideration and help. ~Diane

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LenHewitt
Jan 31, 2007
Neese,

Then I will rubber cement the photo to the layout board and the
yearbook processing plant will scan the image in. <<

That is not really a sensible workflow. Once you have the images digitized it doesn’t make sense to convert them back to analogue (a photo print) and then re-digitize again. At each step some detail will be lost.

What you should be doing is composing the whole yearbook digitally and then passing a file to the printer for printing, preferably using a page-layout application such as InDesign.
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Neese
Jan 31, 2007
Len Hewitt,

I couldn’t agree with you more, but the yearbook processing plant won’t accept anything other than a glossy print affixed to their layout board. I would love nothing more than to be able to provide them with my files, but they won’t accept them. Maybe next year we’ll look into another company, but for the time being this is what I have to do in order to make it work.

Outside of their nonsense, how does my approach seem?
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dude
Jan 31, 2007
Diane,

Good luck with your yearbook project. I hope I can offer you some help. I worked in the yearbook business for 26 years – until our plant was downsized and shut down this past year. If you don’t mind saying–which yearbook company is printing your book?. Since I’m asking you, I should tell you that I used to work for Taylor Publishing Company.

The problem that jumped up when I read your message is the size change from the Company. 8 1/2 X 11 isn’t proportional to 7 3/4 X 10 1/2. The image will be reduced to 91% to fit your picture onto the page. This reduces the 8 1/2 " side to 7 3/4" which is fine, but the 11" side reduces to 10" (at 91%) so you will end up with extra white space at the top and bottom of the page. You may want to recrop your pictures so they are in proportion so you can avoid this.

As for rubber cementing the pictures to the mounting boards, the printing plant should be able to accept and use your digital files. That would help keep the quality high. I’d suggest that you contact your customer service rep and ask about this. If they do not accept the digital file (shame on them) be careful with the rubber cement and how you glue down your pictures. If there are any air bubbles between your picture and the mounting board, it can show up as a slightly distorted area when they scan the pictures.

Everything else that you did sounds great. I hope this helps, and good luck with your yearbook.

Stephen

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:56:30 -0800, wrote:

I’m using Photoshop CS vs 8.0 and I’m realitively new. I’m a parent working on a grammar school yearbook project and I’m creating a master photo per page in lieu of cutting the images out one by one and pasting them onto a layout board. I’ve spent a lot of time reading and would like to know if the process I’m using will produce quality images based on the information below.

Project Background Info:

I’m creating one master photo per page. Upon completion, the master file will be sent to a professional photo lab to be printed. It will be produced as a glossy print at the exact measurements of the layout board. Then I will rubber cement the photo to the layout board and the yearbook processing plant will scan the image in. Then the yearbooks will be produced in full color.

Steps I used to create master file:

1.) Width and height values entered in using inches. (Dimensions provided by Yearbook Processing Plant.)
2.) Resolution: 300 pixels/inch
3.) Color Mode: RGB Color – 8 bit
4.) Background Contents: Transparent
5.) Color Profile: working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
6.) Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square
7.) Created 1/4" guides all the way around to account for bleeds.
8.) Saved as template.

Steps I used to adjust image:

1.) Opened image and adjusted color.
2.) Sized image to 300dpi (Constrain Proportions checked)
3.) If the subject area I wanted to capture was too big I resized the image with Constrain Proportions and Resample Image:Bicubic checked. Changed height or width value in inches. (This is the method I used to retain the resolution of 300dpi)
4.) Cropped the image using a working path. Created a new layer, pasted in the image and cut the background out so it is transparent.
5.) Duplicated layer to master file.

Will this procedure accomplish my task. I want the yearbook to look as professional as I can possibly make it. Although I’m new to this product I’ve put a lot of time and effort into reading and learning as I go along. I’m just a parent who signed on to help my kid’s school and I’d really like it turn out nice.

Master file with text:

I created a 2nd master file using the procedures above excluding I set the resolution value(s) to 600dpi. This is a little bit of a gray area for me and I created the file based on what I read, but I’m not too sure I fully understand it. My goal is to make a few pages with pictures and text. Kind of like a scrap book page.

1.) The background is filled with black.
2.) Using styles I put a golden tone frame around each picture.
3.) Created a text box next to each picture using the following valyes:

Font: Helvetica using the same golden tone. Set at medium, 120px and Strong.
I’ve never done this before and I’m concerend that the text won’t produce properly. Any thoughts or opionions?

Processing Plant Cavaet:

As of yesterday, the processing plant gave me different layout boards to use which are smaller than the original size. So, my final question. If the steps I followed above are correct, I don’t want to have to recreate the work I’ve done so far. The original board dimensions were 8.5×11. The new boards are 7.75×10.5. Is there a preferred method to use to make this change?

Thank you in advance for your consideration and help. ~Diane
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TimHall
Feb 1, 2007
Neese,

I got your email, but I’m not sure why you chose to send it to me…I’m an illustrator by trade, and don’t have much experience with page layout or press-ready work. I also only use Photoshop as a support tool for other applications.

I can vaguely recall using a cropping tool and red wax pencil on photos way back in high school journalism, but I think you’ll need to get answers from someone with more experience.

Tim
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Neese
Feb 1, 2007
Thanks Tim. I’m just trying to find an answer to my question(s).
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LenHewitt
Feb 1, 2007
Neese,

Maybe next year we’ll look into another company<<

You will probably have to – they’ll be out of business and deserve to be!

Text output to photo’s isn’t going to look particularly good – and I don’t think creating at 600ppi is going to help – the lab will likely re-sample to 300ppi anyway.
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Neese
Feb 1, 2007
LenHewitt,

Good point about the lab re-sampling the image to 300ppi. I hadn’t thought of that.

I will discuss everything with the school and the district as well once this edition is done. I think it’s a shame that this company is forcing us to put our yearbook collage’s together the old fashion way.

~Diane
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Bob
Feb 5, 2007
On Jan 31, 11:56 pm, wrote:
I’m using Photoshop CS vs 8.0 and I’m realitively new. I’m a parent working on a grammar school yearbook project and I’m creating a masterphotoper page in lieu of cutting the images out one by one and pasting them onto a layout board. I’ve spent a lot of time reading and would like to know if the process I’m using will produce quality images based on the information below.

Project Background Info:

I’m creating one masterphotoper page. Upon completion, the master file will be sent to a professionalphotolab to be printed. It will be produced as a glossy print at the exact measurements of the layout board. Then I will rubber cement thephototo the layout board and the yearbook processing plant will scan the image in. Then the yearbooks will be produced in full color.

Steps I used to create master file:

1.) Width and height values entered in using inches. (Dimensions provided by Yearbook Processing Plant.)
2.) Resolution: 300 pixels/inch
3.) Color Mode: RGB Color – 8 bit
4.) Background Contents: Transparent
5.) Color Profile: working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
6.) Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square
7.) Created 1/4" guides all the way around to account for bleeds.
8.) Saved as template.

Steps I used to adjust image:

1.) Opened image and adjusted color.
2.) Sized image to 300dpi (Constrain Proportions checked)
3.) If the subject area I wanted to capture was too big I resized the image with Constrain Proportions and Resample Image:Bicubic checked. Changed height or width value in inches. (This is the method I used to retain the resolution of 300dpi)
4.) Cropped the image using a working path. Created a new layer, pasted in the image and cut the background out so it is transparent.
5.) Duplicated layer to master file.

Will this procedure accomplish my task. I want the yearbook to look as professional as I can possibly make it. Although I’m new to this product I’ve put a lot of time and effort into reading and learning as I go along. I’m just a parent who signed on to help my kid’s school and I’d really like it turn out nice.

Master file with text:

I created a 2nd master file using the procedures above excluding I set the resolution value(s) to 600dpi. This is a little bit of a gray area for me and I created the file based on what I read, but I’m not too sure I fully understand it. My goal is to make a few pages with pictures and text. Kind of like a scrap book page.

1.) The background is filled with black.
2.) Using styles I put a golden tone frame around each picture.
3.) Created a text box next to each picture using the following valyes:

Font: Helvetica using the same golden tone. Set at medium, 120px and Strong.
I’ve never done this before and I’m concerend that the text won’t produce properly. Any thoughts or opionions?

Processing Plant Cavaet:

As of yesterday, the processing plant gave me different layout boards to use which are smaller than the original size. So, my final question. If the steps I followed above are correct, I don’t want to have to recreate the work I’ve done so far. The original board dimensions were 8.5×11. The new boards are 7.75×10.5. Is there a preferred method to use to make this change?

Thank you in advance for your consideration and help. ~Diane

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