CS2, Canon iP8500 and dark prints

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Phil_A_Young
Feb 2, 2007
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I’ve set up my monitor using the Spyder2 Express, and used the Adobe Technical Paper ‘A Colour Managed Raw Workflow’ to set up the colour management in CS2. I’ve got the right printer profile for the paper I’m using and have set Photoshop to determine the colour. Colour management is turned off in the printer driver. Proof colours have been set up as well. BUT my prints are MUCH darker (and less vivid) than as displayed on the monitor. Any ideas why?

Thanks

Phil
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Mousewrites
Feb 3, 2007
LCD monitor or CRT?

The spiders (and most calibration software, actually) doesn’t do a great job on LCD monitors. You might try setting your monitor profile to ‘adobeRGB’ just as a test option. It worked for my friend with roughly the same problem.
PA
Phil_A_Young
Feb 5, 2007
Sony LCD.
Thanks I’ll try that. The problem only came about when I changed to Adobe RGB so I think I may have missed setting something somewhere….
BD
Brent_DeGraaf
Feb 5, 2007
Are you sure your gamma setting for the printer is correct? Using a gamma of 1.8 (usually the default) instead of 2.2 will result in the same symptoms you describe.
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Phil_A_Young
Feb 5, 2007
Under Edit / colour settings in PS2 I have the following: RGB : Adobe RGB (1998)
CMYK : U.S.Web Coated (SWOP) v2
Gray : Gray Gamma 2.2
Spot : Dot Gain 20%

Is this OK?
BD
Brent_DeGraaf
Feb 6, 2007
Gray: should have a dot gain of 20%.

I looked at the user manual for your printer and I don’t see any way to adjust the printer driver’s gamma outright.

On the Main tab of your printer properties (in Windows or from the Properties button after you tell Photoshop to print), use High print quality, Manual color adjustment. In the manual adjustment window, you should Enable ICM and try adjusting the brightness upwards from Normal (or start with Normal, make several prints, and compare). This SHOULD work for you.

If it doesn’t, you can try playing with the intensity adjustment under the Color Balance section of the same dialog.

If you turn off ICM on the printer, then let Photoshop determine colors, the printout should be OK–and it implies a problem with your Color Profile. There are several sources of free profiles for your printer out there, including Canon, Kodak, and some third parties (http://wandb.com/icc.htm is one–odd, though because it’s buried under some store that sells vitamins on its main page). Sometimes there’s better support for color profiles in other countries–I’ve had good luck finding some profile updates in Australia that never made it here in the U.S.

You could also try the decidely hackish approach of turning on ICM in Photoshop AND playing around with the manual adjustments of your printer.

Hope this helps.

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