WHY IS CS2 SUCH A SLUG???

You’ve given us no system details or whether you’ve downloaded and installed the 9.0.2 patch.

Without that there’s not much anyone can offer.

Bob

Below is most of my system information.
I’m running version 9.0.2 Photoshop CS2

Does that help?
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System Information
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Machine name: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: INTEL_
System Model: PRODUCT8
BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/02/04 13:33:00 Ver: 08.00.10
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 510MB RAM
Page File: 236MB used, 1013MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI FireGL Z1
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: FireGL Z1 AGP (0x4147)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4147&SUBSYS_01721002&REV_8 0 Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)

Memory: 510MB RAM

Barely enough for the operating system. You need way more. I recommend at least 2 gigs for adequate performance with anything but small graphics.

Bob

Right you are Bob. I am in the process of upgrade of the memory. But my confusion lies in that I still have CS on my system, and can open and make changes to the same files with much less hanging and delays. It is so bad that I hate using CS2 but CS works fine???
WHY! Same system, same ram etc. There must be an explanation.

Rick < my head hurts

WHY! Same system, same ram etc. There must be an explanation.

Different software?

You have an amazing grasp of the obvious.
What I ment was there must be a way to get CS2 to function at least as well as CS? Or am I a dreamer?

Rick

suggest close down as many other apps as possible while running ps until you upgrade the ram.

Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs) / Memory: 510MB RAM

jsut as a note, i was running a p4 2.8 with 1 gig ram and cs2 ran fine. my guess is that rob’s correct and your problem is ram/disk paging. put a rush order on the memory upgrade. 🙂

What I ment was there must be a way to get CS2 to function at least as well as CS?

cs2 definately uses more of the machine than cs did, but as i said above, it ran ok for me with the same processor you have in 1 gig ram. i’d go for 2 if you can afford it.

I am! 2 gig ASAP!
I also some what frequently get the "not enough virtual memory" message. Is this also in line with the not enough RAM problem?
Hope I don’t sound like to much of a dunce.

Rick

By any chance did you edit the RAM usage preferences for CS, then forgot about it (similar changes would need to be propagated into CS2)? Also, CS isn’t still open while CS2 is running, is it? I really haven’t tried running either with less than 1GB, but I can’t say I noticed any speed difference between the two whatsoever.

If you’re running out of virtual memory, it sounds like you may be nearly out of space on your VM hard disk.

I also some what frequently get the "not enough virtual memory" message.

OS paging file. and or (less likely) running out of space on ps’s scrath file drive (set that in edit> preferences).

Hope I don’t sound like to much of a dunce.

not at all rick. gotta learn somewhere. i learned everything i know about ps right here and by playing around with it.

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I am! 2 gig ASAP!
I also some what frequently get the "not enough virtual memory" message. Is this also in line with the not enough RAM problem?
Hope I don’t sound like to much of a dunce.

Rick

No, that message means that your pagefile is too small. A pagefile which is too small will cause your system to run slow. If, it is way too small the system may hang (the ultimate slowdown).

Jim

IMNSO, "Playing" with Photoshop is just as important a tool for learning the app as it is for young children learning about the world around them.

You accidentally discover things. You make mistakes. You figure stuff out on your own and Photoshop becomes like a second language.

Photoshop engineer Chris Cox recommends setting your initial and maximum pagefile size (under Control Panel, System, Advanced, Virtual Memory or something like that) to 2 times your RAM (unless you have 2GB or more, in which case you can reduce it to 1-1.5x RAM). For 512MB of RAM, that means set the virtual memory to 1024MB initial and maximum.

If possible, use a different physical disk drive for your PS scratch file from the drive used for the system’s pagefile.

Also, reduce your image cache size to 2 when operating with limited RAM.

IMNSO, "Playing" with Photoshop is just as important a tool for learning the app as it is for young children learning about the world around them.

who do you think taught me that phos?!!

(thanks!)

My pleasure, Dave!

(((You have no idea how hard it is to get people to listen to that advice!!!)))

🙂

"pay attention, you never know what disguise your next teacher will be wearing." -someone, very smart. 🙂

One technique for optimizing the paging file is to look at the Windows "recommended" size (this would be after you’ve added RAM) and set the minimum and maximum to that size. As mentioned, if you can put the page file on a different HD that is good–unless that other HD is some old slow drive.

After you’ve created your fixed size page file, get Diskeeper, the defragmenter program and run a boot time defragmentation, taking the option to defrag the paging file and MFT. This is the only way I know to defrag the paging file, as the Windows defragmenter will not do this. You should only need to do this once, so you could get by with just the 14-day trial version of Diskeeper for this purpose.

Bill
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Photoshop engineer Chris Cox recommends setting your initial and maximum pagefile size (under Control Panel, System, Advanced, Virtual Memory or something like that) to 2 times your RAM (unless you have 2GB or more, in which case you can reduce it to 1-1.5x RAM). For 512MB of RAM, that means set the virtual memory to 1024MB initial and maximum.

If possible, use a different physical disk drive for your PS scratch file from the drive used for the system’s pagefile.

Also, reduce your image cache size to 2 when operating with limited RAM.

SBCDSL wrote:

One technique for optimizing the paging file is to look at the Windows "recommended" size (this would be after you’ve added RAM) and set the minimum and maximum to that size. As mentioned, if you can put the page file on a different HD that is good–unless that other HD is some old slow drive.

After you’ve created your fixed size page file, get Diskeeper, the defragmenter program and run a boot time defragmentation, taking the option to defrag the paging file and MFT. This is the only way I know to defrag the paging file, as the Windows defragmenter will not do this. You should only need to do this once, so you could get by with just the 14-day trial version of Diskeeper for this purpose.

How much improvement in performance can one expect from degragmenting a hard disk? Would CS2 no longer be "such a slug"?

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:56:26 -0500, Julie wrote:

How much improvement in performance can one expect from degragmenting a hard disk?

I’ve seen significant improvements in all aspects of running a windows system after a defrag.

Would CS2 no longer be "such a slug"?

I think it’s more of a hog – memory hog, system hog. According to the folks here, you need a 3ghz, 1gb machine to run it. That’s a seriously bloated, poorly written, bad memory and disk managing, hog. (on top of an OS with all the same qualities). FWIW, Adobe says it runs on a P3 / 384mb 🙂