Photoshop CS3 Overseas Pricing

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Andrew_Hart
Apr 19, 2007
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I live in Australia. On 19 April 2007 I tried to buy (by download) Photoshop CS3 from the Adobe US website at the current US price of US$649.00 which equates to AUD$782.00 at the prevailing exchange rate of 0.83. This offer was refused and I was redirected to the Australian Adobe portal where the price was AUD$1125.00, a price increase of AUD$343.00. I then tried to buy it from Amazon, which refused to accept the order and gave as its only reason that there was an irregularity in the order. We all know that the real reason is that Adobe has forbidden Amazon to sell the product at the US price outside the USA. Why do we put up with this sort of nonsense? There can be no justification for it and there can be no explanation for it other than that Adobe has in place price fixing arrangements, the object of which is all too obvious. Not only is this practice discriminatory towards overseas buyers of Photoshop, but one wonders whether, in the present climate of trade practices legislation forbidding anti-competitive conduct and resale price maintenance – both in Australia and the USA, this practice may also be unlawful. In the past I have bought many software programs by download from overseas sources, principally in the USA, and from significant companies with products just as important and wide-selling as those of Adobe, and I have never been asked to pay more than the Australian dollar equivalent of the overseas price. I hope that others will take up the cause and at least start complaining, if not also voting with their wallets like myself. I have resolved that, unless Adobe ceases to engage in this unacceptable conduct, I shall never buy another Adobe product.

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Michael_D_Sullivan
Apr 19, 2007
Have you tried purchasing it from another major US online retailer such as buy.com or newegg.com? Perhaps they will ship overseas.
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Don_McCahill
Apr 19, 2007
Adobe has in place price fixing arrangements

Uhmm, price fixing is when two or more competitors agree on pricing. When one company sets a price, it is normal business. That company can set the price to whatever level it wants. Adobe Australia has chosen to set its price higher than Adobe US.
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Michael_D_Sullivan
Apr 19, 2007
US antitrust laws, at this time, forbid a manufacturer from setting the retail price vendors can charge (a practice known as retail price maintenance). The manufacturer can, however, impose restrictions on the price that an authorized retail vendor can advertise (the vendor can sell for a lower price, once you’ve inquired — hence the US advertisements that say "call us" instead of listing the price, or the online retailers who make you click something or put the item in your cart to get the real price).

Price fixing, which is an antitrust violation, is when two vendors agree not to charge different prices, as opposed to a manufacturer and a vendor. Adobe is both a manufacturer and (through its online store) a vendor. Accordingly, it would be price fixing for Adobe to dictate the price for which its products are sold — in the US. I don’t know the extent to which this would be the case where a vendor selling only in the US agrees on price with a vendor selling only elsewhere, but I suspect it would not be considered price fixing.

It might, however, be considered retail price maintenance, and thus an antitrust violation, if Adobe (as manufacturer) were to dictate the retail price charged by vendors in other countries.
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chrisjbirchall
Apr 19, 2007
Not before time, Adobe seem to have taken the exchange rate into account with their UK pricing. EG: PSCS3 Upgrade $199 / £139 (plus VAT).

Previous upgrades have been on the lines of $140 / £140
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Michael_D_Sullivan
Apr 19, 2007
The previous upgrades were at a time when the exchange rate was about $1.75/£, so the UK price was about 75% higher, but now the exchange rate is about $2.00/£, so the price is only about 40% higher. Was the VAT rate of 17.5% added on to price of the previous upgrades, or was it included? Either way, the current UK upgrade price would seem to be a lesser increase over the US price than before.
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Andrew_Hart
Apr 19, 2007
Re Michael Sullivan
Thank you for the suggested alternative sources (and the information re US anti-trust laws). Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, newegg.com does not offer the product at all and buy.com only offers to supply the hard copy boxed product, whereas I was after a download. Maybe, in time, things will improve, but until they do Adobe gets not a penny from me either directly or indirectly.
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Robert_Barnett
Apr 19, 2007
People put up with because you have no choice. While there are semi-viable options for the novice consumer, there isn’t one for semi-pro and pro user’s. The pricing isn’t fair I will agree. But, if you want the latest Photoshop then you just need to get used to smiling nicely, turning around and bending over.

Robert
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graffiti
Apr 20, 2007
Pretty lame video.
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Talker
Apr 20, 2007
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:48:03 -0700, wrote:

Re Michael Sullivan
Thank you for the suggested alternative sources (and the information re US anti-trust laws). Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, newegg.com does not offer the product at all and buy.com only offers to supply the hard copy boxed product, whereas I was after a download. Maybe, in time, things will improve, but until they do Adobe gets not a penny from me either directly or indirectly.

Just curious, but I wonder what would happen if you tried to buy it from an online retailer, but used something like Paypal? You could then check with Paypal to see if they would allow you to use your credit card to place US dollars into your account, and use those dollars to pay the online merchant…..maybe even Adobe if they accept Paypal. I don’t see how they would know where you are if you did that.
The other alternative would be to have someone here in the US buy it for you, then ship it over to you.(this could be an opportunity for some entrepreneur to set up a business doing just that.<g>) Do you know anyone here in the states that could do that for you?

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dcole
Apr 20, 2007
chrisjbirchall –

Where in the UK have you seen the PSCS3 upgrade for £139?
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chrisjbirchall
Apr 20, 2007
Where in the UK…

On the Adobe Website (UK store)
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d hill
Apr 20, 2007
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Where in the UK…

On the Adobe Website (UK store)

Methinks you have omitted the VAT and that pushes the price to approx £160
The basic price at jigsaw is £139 then VAT on top.

dave hill
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John Joslin
Apr 20, 2007
That’s without VAT and delivery mind you.
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Carol_Steele
Apr 20, 2007
Try Amazon – they are doing the upgrade at £157.99 with free shipping

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dave_milbut
Apr 24, 2007
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John Joslin
Apr 24, 2007
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troyhark
Apr 25, 2007
Price fixing, which is an antitrust violation, is when two vendors agree not to charge different prices, as opposed to a manufacturer and a vendor. Adobe is both a manufacturer and (through its online store) a vendor.

Also remember that Adobe bought up their main competitor in the graphics industry. So Adobe is actually 2 companies reccently merged.

<http://www.amanwithapencil.com/adobe.html> has a list of prices one has to pay in Europe, which varies across the EU [which I believe is illegal].
Also the UK prices will have 17.5% VAT added which makes the discrepancy between US + UK even worse.
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