Do they use the same Cache level?(check in your preferences) Are the Big tiles/Adjusted Refresh plug-in active in CS or CS2? What is the Number of presets in each version? there are many factors involved.
All of a sudden it’s using 599 MB of RAM so with one gig total of RAM
What operations did you perform on the image?
what percentage of you RAM is allocated to Photoshop?
How many History Steps are enabled?
So many variables…
If you really want to understand about the way PS utilizes RAM ( So different to the majority of apps) then have a read of this: <
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=3200 05>
Otherwise, I’ll say what I always say when people start banging on about RAM usage:
Bin the Task Manager. Stop watching the numbers – and concentrate on using this wonderful tool for what it does best: image manipulation!
Chris.
Hi Chris,
I personally couldn’t care how much RAM is used but when I use more than one gig the image starts using my scratch disk and that’s when the problems start. PS just S L O W S down to the point where I can go out and mow the lawn before simple operations are rendered. Just before I read your answer I previously found the above link you sent and read the entire article. I’ve checked and rechecked everything I should but my question as to why everything changed still isn’t answered and the problem seems to be getting worse whereas the other CPU next to my "real" work still opens files at 79 MB RAM usage and my laptop from where I’m sending this question opens same size files at about 30 to 80 MB so I have plenty of RAM to work with.
I’ve tried changing my cache usage, my history states and my RAM allocation. All this in PS 7 (because I like 7, that’s why). PS7 was always MUCH faster for me than CS and CS2. But now ……
I don’t think buying more RAM is going to solve my problem. Would adding a plug in to my plug in file (that I’m not using) use more RAM just by the fact that it is residing as a plug in?
RSVP anyone………..Thanks
Dodgy plug-ins, Bad fonts, AV programs, network printers…
All these things can cause slow downs. Move your plug-ins to a new temporary folder, do the same with your fonts (other than the system defaults), make a local printer the default, kill the AV, trash your prefs and do a reinstall.
If all runs well on the vanilla version, add these back bit by bit until you can isolate the culprit.
Hi Chris,
I hate to have to reinstall my beloved 7 but I think it’s coming down to a Plugin called Imageonomics an absolutely wonderful retouch program. Don’t think I had the problems before that. One of the reasons I never used CS or 2 was because they used up too much RAM.
You made a comment "Bad Fonts". Really. I bought a font some time ago but didn’t notice any ill effects. Can a "bad" font make trouble?
Peter
Mostly, the bad fonts are ones you download from the web for free, and not from font foundries. Many font foundries offer free fonts as promos, and they are typically of good quality. What you need to be careful about is fonts that JoeSixPack123 uploaded somewhere, or that malware sites make available. I have a huge number of good fonts that came free with Corel Draw, but I don’t have them all installed; they reside on my E: drive and can be loaded/unloaded using a font management program.
I think a re-install of Photoshop is only necessary if none of the other measures help!
I really appreciate all the feed back. Today is Saturday and HOPEFULLY it will rain and I won’t be able to do anything but work on my RAM problem. I know it will take some time but at this point my RAM is getting eaten up so fast that I can hardly work. I’m not into my busy season yet with my high school seniors so I have a little extra time. Everything must be fixed before the deluge starts. I know you’ll all be dying to find out the gremlin. Thanks again.
Peter
I took out almost all the fonts except those that I know have been there for several years. I uninstalled my new plug in. I deleted my upgrade of a spyware program that I upgraded recently. I had also upgraded the spyware program on my laptop and that didn’t cause any additional usage of RAM but just to be sure I got rid of it. I haven’t added any new printers or printer drivers nor have I added any other programs except Lightroom and I uninstalled that too. My hard drive is getting PRETTY empty after all this. No change whatsoever except for the fact that my RAM usage is still going up little by little in PS7 on that particular computer. I guess the only thing to do is uninstall 7 and reinstall it. Anyone have any more suggestions before I have to go searching for all my actions (that I put in a folder on my desktop.)
Three questions:
1. How much RAM do you have?
2. What are your XP virtual memory settings?
3. What percentage of RAM have you told Photoshop to use?
Michael,
I have one gig which has been more than sufficient since PS7 came out. I will admit I do not know my XP virtual mem settings in XP but I never changed anything. I have 75 percent allotted to Photoshop in all my computers and even changing that to 60 and then to 80 or 85 percent made no difference whatsoever. Something in that one CPU in PS7 is holding/using up all my RAM and it will not let go. Yesterday I brought a file into PS7 and where last week it was using 550 it is now using 599.
If you have only 1 GB of RAM, you won’t have much RAM reserved for the OS, plug-ins, Bridge, or other apps, and virtual memory will be used, slowing performance badly as it’s swapped. I would suggest:
(a) Set your Virtual Memory to use 2 GB initially and 2 GB as the maximum; and (b) Set Photoshop to use 55%, no more; maybe go down to 50%.
After everyone’s considerate suggestions as a last resort I uninstalled Photoshop 7 and I also un-installed CS. I then re-installed PS7 and voila all my actions were still there. I un-installed it again and re-installed and rebooted my computer without opening PS to see if that would make a difference and it did not make any difference. Why are my actions still there if I uninstalled PS? Crazy!
PS 7 is now opening up files using more RAM than it did last week. Little by little the RAM usage is going up so obviously PS is not dumping RAM even if I uninstall the program.
I have tried changing my usage to 50% whereas it has always been set at about 75% and that worked fine for years. There is some gremlin inside PS7 that is just sucking up my RAM.
If ANYONE knows ANYONE who thinks he has an answer I will happily send the winner a check for $50.00 if I can get my RAM usage back down to 50-60 MB of RAM as everything is opened up on all the other CPU’s we have in our work place.
As another thought… I uninstalled Lightroom and when I re-installed Lightroom all my images were still in Lightroom. Why didn’t all the images disappear when I took Lightrooom out of my computer? Now I thought this might have something to do with my RAM usage in PS7 but in CS2 my images are opening up at their usual 250 MB of RAM as they did in the past.
Anyone have any ideas?
Peter
In simple terms, a lot of data and files that are personal to the user are not removed during an un-install. This means that, if the parent application is re-installed, the personal stuff will still be there.
It’s good that it works that way really!
John, Yes BUT any ideas why my PS7 won’t dump RAM?
Peter
Have you actually tried removing or at least disabling all third party plug-ins?
I had bought one new one a couple of months ago. The three or four others that I use on a daily bais have all been in the computer since day one so I don’t think they are the problem. The new one called Imagenomics (a retouch plug-in) I removed completely from the computer and as of yet I haven’t re-installed it. So I don’t think that’s the problem. Since I un-installed it completely from the computer I have un-installed and re-installed PS7. That particular plug-in is not in the computer and 7 is doing the same thing. Drive me crazy.
P
I’m going to keep asking anyone and everyone what’s up. I called Adobe the the guy on the phone said, "We no longer support PS7." As a matter of fact he repeated that 4 or 5 times instead of just saying, "I really have no idea or call this guy or that guy." A REAL help!
Thgere has to be a reason. Can anyone help??????????
Peter, Photoshop loads many presets in memory, like brushes, patterns, vector shapes, actions… If the tiles (memory blocks)used by Photoshop are bigger, more memory is used to store them.
Did you create many presets in "big blue?"
that’s why I asked that question…
Also, deleting Photoshop’s preferences can sometimes cure the odd issue.
