building Adobe Premiere still titles in Photoshop

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Sep 18, 2003
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hello –

I am wondering if there is a way to build still title cards in Photoshop for Adobe Premiere, rather than using Premiere’s rather pathetic title program (the one that saves files as *.ptl). Can this be done? If so, what file format should I save my images in Photoshop as? thanks everyone!

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Tony Mueller
Sep 18, 2003
The answer is yes.
Create your titles at 720×534 pixels, then save as a .psd. This is your editable version of the title. Now merge any layers that have layer effects applied. Then resize to 720×480 and save with another filename (I usually append -merge to the name). Import into Premiere and when you place the title, set transparency to Alpha Channel.

Tony Mueller

"brian mccabe" wrote in message
hello –

I am wondering if there is a way to build still title cards in
Photoshop
for Adobe Premiere, rather than using Premiere’s rather pathetic title
program
(the one that saves files as *.ptl). Can this be done? If so, what file format should I save my images in Photoshop as? thanks everyone!
brian mc
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MCL
Sep 18, 2003
In news:Mxqab.509358$, brian mccabe deftly typed:
hello –

I am wondering if there is a way to build still title cards in Photoshop for Adobe Premiere, rather than using Premiere’s rather pathetic title program (the one that saves files as *.ptl). Can this be done? If so, what file format should I save my images in Photoshop as? thanks everyone!

brian mc

A better proposition would be to use Illustrator or Aftereffect, but PS would work also. I use Vegas, not Premiere, but this is pretty basic stuff for any NLE to use still in either .tga, what I use, or even .tiff or .jpeg. Just make sure the format is 755pxX480px (for DV) so it looks ok when viewed on a TV monitor.
In fact, I think Premiere can work with Photoshop native and layered ..psd format, I know Aftereffect does, so you could import the matte at the same time.


Martin.
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MCL
Sep 18, 2003
Sorry, should have been 720X534 for DV. Had a brain cramp.
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Gary Eickmeier
Sep 19, 2003
"MCL" wrote in message
Sorry, should have been 720X534 for DV. Had a brain cramp.

OK, I’ll bite – why not 720 x 480? In fact, what difference does it make what you save it at, as long as it is equal to or greater than video resolution?
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MCL
Sep 19, 2003
In news:r%tab.5885$, Gary Eickmeier
deftly typed:
"MCL" wrote in message
Sorry, should have been 720X534 for DV. Had a brain cramp.

OK, I’ll bite – why not 720 x 480? In fact, what difference does it make what you save it at, as long as it is equal to or greater than video resolution?

Photoshop work with square pixel, a 1:1 apect ratio. NTSC DV as a pixel ratio of 0.9 (rectangular, for a regular 4:3 frame). You can use an image that’s 720X480, but it will look somewhat distorted when rendered as full frame.
Here’s a short list of apect ratio:

D1/DV NTSC: 0.9 par
D1/DV NTSC Widescreen: 1.2 par
D1/DV PAL:1.0666 par
D1/DV PAL Widescreen: 1.422 par


Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley
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danieljmaas
Sep 19, 2003
I am wondering if there is a way to build still title cards in Photoshop for Adobe Premiere, rather than using Premiere’s rather pathetic title program (the one that saves files as *.ptl). Can this be done? If so, what file format should I save my images in Photoshop as? thanks everyone!

Of course. Any still image format (e.g. TIF, BMP) will work. If you want to composite the title over other video, you’ll need to create an appropriate alpha channel and set a transparency mode in Premiere.

Regards,
Dan
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Matt
Sep 19, 2003
"MCL" wrote in message
In news:r%tab.5885$, Gary Eickmeier
deftly typed:
"MCL" wrote in message
Sorry, should have been 720X534 for DV. Had a brain cramp.

OK, I’ll bite – why not 720 x 480? In fact, what difference does it make what you save it at, as long as it is equal to or greater than video resolution?

Photoshop work with square pixel, a 1:1 apect ratio. NTSC DV as a
pixel
ratio of 0.9 (rectangular, for a regular 4:3 frame). You can use an image that’s 720X480, but it will look somewhat distorted when
rendered
as full frame.
Here’s a short list of apect ratio:

D1/DV NTSC: 0.9 par
D1/DV NTSC Widescreen: 1.2 par
D1/DV PAL:1.0666 par
D1/DV PAL Widescreen: 1.422 par
So if your editing at 720×486, do you just drop the Photoshop image in at 720×534 and let Premiere resize? Or do you design the title at 720×534 and then drop it to 720×486 in Photoshop before you bring it into Premiere?
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MCL
Sep 19, 2003
In news:bkeupk$12dc4$, Matt deftly typed:
So if your editing at 720×486, do you just drop the Photoshop image in at 720×534 and let Premiere resize?

As I’ve mentionned, I don’t use Premiere but Vegas. But typically yes, that’s what I would do. In Vegas it’s just a switch, "keep aspect ratio", that I have to turn off. The image will get "squished", but will look ok on an NTSC monitor. I’ve made template in Illustrator and PS since it’s the size I work with more often (well actually, my partner in crime works with Illustrator and Aftereffect, I work with Vegas and PS:).
I don’t know if the 6 pixels extra of D1 makes a difference or not (486/0.9=540, not 534). Best I guess is to make a test and see how it looks to you.

Or do you design the title at
720×534 and then drop it to 720×486 in Photoshop before you bring it into Premiere?


Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley
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Matt
Sep 19, 2003
"MCL" wrote in message
In news:bkeupk$12dc4$, Matt deftly
typed:
So if your editing at 720×486, do you just drop the Photoshop image
in
at 720×534 and let Premiere resize?

As I’ve mentionned, I don’t use Premiere but Vegas. But typically yes, that’s what I would do. In Vegas it’s just a switch, "keep aspect ratio", that I have to turn off. The image will get "squished", but
will
look ok on an NTSC monitor. I’ve made template in Illustrator and PS since it’s the size I work with more often (well actually, my partner
in
crime works with Illustrator and Aftereffect, I work with Vegas and PS:).
I don’t know if the 6 pixels extra of D1 makes a difference or not (486/0.9=540, not 534). Best I guess is to make a test and see how it looks to you.

Or do you design the title at
720×534 and then drop it to 720×486 in Photoshop before you bring it into Premiere?
I’ve been working in Premiere for years but I’ve always just made my graphics at 720×486 (or 720×480 depending on the setup). Although I really only use Photoshop for mattes and company logos that have to be scanned. Other wise I’ll use a third party title software and after-effects for most everything…of course most of this this was before DV, and I don’t really edit as much as I use to.
TM
Tony Mueller
Sep 21, 2003
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I don’t know if the 6 pixels extra of D1 makes a difference or not (486/0.9=540, not 534). Best I guess is to make a test and see how it looks to you.

This is correct… D1= 720×540, DV= 720×534
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ollie_w_holmes
Sep 22, 2003
"MCL" wrote:

A better proposition would be to use Illustrator or Aftereffect, but PS would work also. I use Vegas, not Premiere, but this is pretty basic stuff for any NLE to use still in either .tga, what I use, or even .tiff or .jpeg.

The titlemaker in Premiere 6.5 is not that lame, but the rendering and superimpose leave something to be desired, especially on a rolling title. So the question is: How does Vegas or other 3rd party program improve matters so the letters in a rolling title don’t inherit multi-colored appendages as they move up? One assumes they export a bunch of bmp files and each stays around for a certain number of frames. If they are anti-aliased at the source, with what sort of matte/background? Then when Premiere merges the title layer with the video layer, is it merely dropping the titles straight over the video with an alpha matte, or is it doing some other funky stuff like blending and pseudo de-interlacing? (Confused as ever about Premiere).

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