What type of PC configuration are DW, Photoshop and etc fit into??

Ko Po Hui wrote:

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The RAM is 512 MB sufficient or increase to 700, as l’m using Dreamweaver and Photoshop..

more – you can never have too much ram. 2Gb these days seems to be an adequate amount for a busy developer – without breaking the bank.

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Ko Po Hui wrote:

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The RAM is 512 MB sufficient or increase to 700, as l’m using Dreamweaver and Photoshop..

more – you can never have too much ram. 2Gb these days seems to be an adequate amount for a busy developer – without breaking the bank.

‘zactly. While I’m a perl developer and don’t *need* anything stronger than, say, a commodore 64 for my *work*, I’m also a shameless gamer, much to my wife’s chagrin 🙂

When I recently upgraded my machine to an Athlon 2800, a friend told me to go for 1 GB of RAM. At CAD $150 for a gig, it seemed silly to go for anything less.

For the gfx card, I got the ATI Radeon 9700 Pro – a *nice* card!

Since I like listening to music while I work, I spoiled myself with a Creative Labs Audigy Platinum 2 and some 5.1 speakers – sound is *SWEET* 🙂

Where you’ll want to splurge, if it’s in the budget, is a big monitor – Dunno what country the OP is from, but up here, a 21" monitor seems to be around the CAD $1000 mark, if not less. (Gawd, 17" are going for $179 these days – I remember when I paid a grand for a 17!!!)

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"Ko Po Hui" wrote in
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hi there,

Was thinking of upgrading my PC in coming weeks…

As l need the following software inside my system such as Dreamweaver and Photoshop (which are RAM consuming)

Photoshop certainly, but Dreamweaver?

so l was pondering how should
l go about it..

l’d came up with a prelim. configuration, so need some advise in filling the "??" or any suggestion are welcome to help optimize my system.

PRELIMINARY CONFIGURATION
======================
Processor: Pentium4 2.66GHz or AMD relevant

Pricewise, that would be the AthlonXP 3000/400.

MotherBoard -???

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm

Asus makes some pretty fair PIV boards, too.

RAM – 512MB DDR (option to go up to >700MB, can?)

You should be able to go up to 4GB, depending on the MB. Because of OS and hardware concerns v.s. price, 2GB is the sweet spot.

Graphics- 64MB nVdia GeForce4 MX420 (or any relevant?)

Utter garbage. The is a slightly modified GeF2, repackaged with a higher number to con buyers. Leaving aside it’s completely antiquated 3D engine, it’s 2D quality is poor as well.

Matrox and ATI have better choices. Ignore 3D pretty much completely and go with Matrox’s G550, or get a nice compromise with a middle of the road Radeon.

l was split between "pentium" and "AMD", dont take into account the cost, which is the better choice??

Neither, not taking into account cost and not looking at the high end. AMD for cost, Pentium for high end. (If you don’t want a 3 ghz or higher PIV, you’re not looking at the high end.)

The RAM is 512 MB sufficient or increase to 700, as l’m using Dreamweaver and Photoshop..

If you aren’t doing anything but web work, you’re not going to be stretching 1GB of RAM.

Thanks for any feedback/suggestion/advise..

You bet.

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Ko Po Hui wrote:

…
The RAM is 512 MB sufficient or increase to 700, as l’m using Dreamweaver and Photoshop..

more – you can never have too much ram. 2Gb these days seems to be an adequate amount for a busy developer – without breaking the bank.

Got 1GB of it in here, AMD XP 2200, 2X120GB HDD… still find the computer too sluggy and run out of RAM.

I do tend to do lots of graphic intense work. Got a .tiff image on here which is 500MB 🙂

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Marc Bissonnette wrote:

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Where you’ll want to splurge, if it’s in the budget, is a big monitor – Dunno what country the OP is from, but up here, a 21" monitor seems to be around the CAD $1000 mark, if not less.

yep – 21" is a *must* have ;o)

I get monitors from the 2nd user broker market.

(Gawd, 17" are going
for $179 these days – I remember when I paid a grand for a 17!!!)

You’re gonna cry when I tell you the wholesale buy-in price for 2nd user 17" monitors.

ready?

are you sure?

ok then. …….

around $10(US)

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Where you’ll want to splurge, if it’s in the budget, is a big monitor – Dunno what country the OP is from, but up here, a 21" monitor seems to be around the CAD $1000 mark, if not less.

yep – 21" is a *must* have ;o)

I don’t know about that. I got a pretty good 19" for $175US. $1000 for another 2" seems a tad excessive. Anyways, dual screen 19"
gives you much more useable workspace than a single 21", for less than half the price…

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Marc Bissonnette wrote:

…
Where you’ll want to splurge, if it’s in the budget, is a big monitor – Dunno what country the OP is from, but up here, a 21" monitor seems to be around the CAD $1000 mark, if not less.

yep – 21" is a *must* have ;o)

I get monitors from the 2nd user broker market.

(Gawd, 17" are going
for $179 these days – I remember when I paid a grand for a 17!!!)

You’re gonna cry when I tell you the wholesale buy-in price for 2nd user 17" monitors.

ready?

are you sure?

ok then. …….

around $10(US)

You’re right – I’m in tears :/

I’d like to get a 22" myself, but can’t justify the cost to my wife right now 🙂 🙂 🙂 I think I can live with the 19" for now 🙂

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Darrel Hoffman wrote:

Where you’ll want to splurge, if it’s in the budget, is a big monitor
– Dunno what country the OP is from, but up here, a 21" monitor seems to be around the CAD $1000 mark, if not less.

yep – 21" is a *must* have ;o)

I don’t know about that. I got a pretty good 19" for $175US. $1000 for another 2" seems a tad excessive. Anyways, dual screen 19" gives you much more useable workspace than a single 21", for less than half the price…

hmmm – but a dual 21" setup would be sooo much better ;o)

can’t remember what I paid for them but they were real cheap – being 2nd user.

"William Tasso" wrote in 139074.news.uni-berlin.de:

Darrel Hoffman wrote:

Where you’ll want to splurge, if it’s in the budget, is a big monitor
– Dunno what country the OP is from, but up here, a 21" monitor seems to be around the CAD $1000 mark, if not less.

yep – 21" is a *must* have ;o)

I don’t know about that. I got a pretty good 19" for $175US. $1000 for another 2" seems a tad excessive. Anyways, dual screen 19" gives you much more useable workspace than a single 21", for less than half the price…

hmmm – but a dual 21" setup would be sooo much better ;o)
can’t remember what I paid for them but they were real cheap – being 2nd user.

Marc Bissonnette wrote:

"William Tasso" wrote in
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wholesale buy-in price for 2nd
user 17" monitors.
…
around $10(US)

You’re right – I’m in tears :/

that’s the up-side. of course you have to take whatever they’ve got and it becomes your problem to dispose of the garbage. what exactly do you do with a pallet load of assorted 14" monitors? It’s not even worth checking if they work. LaserJet II anyone – I thought not ;o)

200 2nd user Cat-5 patch cables – straight to the copper scrap.

But you have to price accordingly and there are good deals to be had.

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"William Tasso" wrote in
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Darrel Hoffman wrote:

Where you’ll want to splurge, if it’s in the budget, is a big monitor
– Dunno what country the OP is from, but up here, a 21" monitor seems to be around the CAD $1000 mark, if not less.

yep – 21" is a *must* have ;o)

I don’t know about that. I got a pretty good 19" for $175US. $1000 for another 2" seems a tad excessive. Anyways, dual screen 19" gives you much more useable workspace than a single 21", for less than half the price…

hmmm – but a dual 21" setup would be sooo much better ;o)
can’t remember what I paid for them but they were real cheap – being 2nd user.

In article <blun7c$h08an$>, William Tasso
says…

hmmm – but a dual 21" setup would be sooo much better ;o)

My personal heaven:

http://dannyruscoe.co.uk/50inches.jpg

Only availible while parents are on holiday :-/

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In article <blun7c$h08an$>, William
Tasso says…

hmmm – but a dual 21" setup would be sooo much better ;o)

My personal heaven:

http://dannyruscoe.co.uk/50inches.jpg

Only availible while parents are on holiday :-/

Well, It’s bigger that’s for sure, but bigger isn’t always better. I’ve been telling women that for years. :o)

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Only availible while parents are on holiday :-/

Well, It’s bigger that’s for sure, but bigger isn’t always better. I’ve been telling women that for years. :o)

Go Red, Go ;o)

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In article <bluhto$7vo$>, Ko Po Hui wrote:

As l need the following software inside my system such as Dreamweaver and Photoshop (which are RAM consuming) so l was pondering how should l go about it..

PRELIMINARY CONFIGURATION
======================
Processor: Pentium4 2.66GHz or AMD relevant
MotherBoard -???
RAM – 512MB DDR (option to go up to >700MB, can?)
Graphics- 64MB nVdia GeForce4 MX420 (or any relevant?)

Either Intel or AMD will be satisfactory. I went with a 1900MHZ Athlon. Your RAM is insufficient. I went with 1536 megs of 266 DDR ECC ram on a motherboard that supports ECC. I think it’s Gigabyte – bought on ebay for less than $100.

I bought a similar graphics card with two VGA outputs and put two 21" monitors on the system. They act as one very wide screen using the nvidia drivers. The left one is carefully calibrated using a Spyder. The right one contains menus while in Photoshop.

Disks – One large IDE ( about 75 gig ), one small IDE (4 Gig) and a fast CDROM, all on the two IDE channels.

I added a cheap Buslogic SCSI adapter to the system and installed several 4GB SCSI drives ( they are almost valueless on ebay ). This is a really important upgrade! The first 4GB drive is exclusively for the Win 2k/Pro swap drive. The second 4GB drive is exclusively for the Photoshop swap. This makes a HUGE difference in performance. I added an HP CD writer on the SCSI chain also.

The case is a standard full tower with space for lots of drives. I bought a high quality power supply (cost more than the motherboard) and fans for every place in the chassis that they’d fit. The fans have thermal sensors on them – hotter it gets, faster they run. Thermaltake I think.

Add in an Epson scanner and an Epson 1280 printer with bulk ink feed. This setup takes a full eight foot long bench. It also works very very well.

About the ECC above. If I do a lot of work on an image, I don’t want the damn system to crash on me because of flakey memory. To get ECC, you are probably going to look at a server class motherboard. Most "consumer grade" machines try to keep the expense down by not even checking for errors, let alone fixing them.

The whole setup cost considerably less than a legitimate copy of Photoshop
7.01 ( buying things on ebay ). I run Dreamweaver MX, Photoshop 7.01,
Indesign 2.0, Acrobat 5.0 and Adobe Type Manager. Everything runs without problem – and quite fast.

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MotherBoard -???

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm

Agreed, really nice board.(the non-Deluxe is as good but without the super duper sound)
Buy it as a combo at mwave.com.
Ask them to install the chip on the MoBo and the RAM. They test it for $9!

Stephan

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"Daniel Ruscoe" wrote in message

Only availible while parents are on holiday :-/

Well, It’s bigger that’s for sure, but bigger isn’t always better. I’ve been telling women that for years. :o)

Go Red, Go ;o)

And besides, it’s not how big it is, but how you use it.

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"Ko Po Hui" wrote in message

hi there,

Was thinking of upgrading my PC in coming weeks…

As l need the following software inside my system such as Dreamweaver and Photoshop (which are RAM consuming) so l was pondering how should l go

about

it..

l’d came up with a prelim. configuration, so need some advise in filling

the

"??" or any suggestion are welcome to help optimize my system.
PRELIMINARY CONFIGURATION
======================
Processor: Pentium4 2.66GHz or AMD relevant
MotherBoard -???
RAM – 512MB DDR (option to go up to >700MB, can?)
Graphics- 64MB nVdia GeForce4 MX420 (or any relevant?)

l was split between "pentium" and "AMD", dont take into account the cost, which is the better choice??

The RAM is 512 MB sufficient or increase to 700, as l’m using Dreamweaver and Photoshop..

Thanks for any feedback/suggestion/advise..

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The deciding factors are RAM, and disc-space. Photoshop uses 3-5 times the "obvious" amount just to keep an image afloat – use more than 20-30% of the available RAM, and the machine has to rely on virtual memory which is much slower. So, as much RAM as you can get. Two hard drives are also a must – one system drive, and a separate data drive for the scratch discs.

HTH

Peter