Normally, Photoshop "remembers" last used settings.
I have not found this to be the case with this issue. Every time I use "Save" with a TIFF that has layers, the problem happens.
I have been able to create an action using "Save As" that obeys the parameters chosen in the action, but that is way too crude to really solve the problem.
Wil
make sure you exit photoshop using File> exit. if you close it via the "X" in the upper right of the window some settings might be getting lost.
I always use the "X" and never lost them ever!
In fact on this machine even power cuts and solid freezes requiring a hardware switch off have not disturbed them. I always cross my fingers on the next PS start-up though maybe that protects them!
Dave,
I too use the "X" to shutdown PS. Even the least sticky things (palette locations) are retained when using the X.
In fact, I don’t notice any difference with File> exit.
A power outage here, however, reverted the preferences to "factory default". Luckily I maintain a recent backup of that settings folder.
Rob
just trying to guess what would cause a sticky setting NOT to save.
just trying to guess what would cause a sticky setting NOT to save
A preference file that is restored off a CD and that is R/O.
Rob
(Using CS2 9.0.2., Win XP SP2) Just in the last couple of days I have been seeing odd behavior during a save to TIFF format when 1) the file as first opened in PS is in TIFF format — a digital photo converted from raw to TIFF in Lightroom 1.3 — and I add at least one layer. (Settings for the Lightroom conversion include: 8 bit TIFF, no TIFF compression.)
What I’m accustomed to seeing before the ‘save as’ in PS is completed: 1) the TIFF Options dialog and 2) the warning that saving with layers increases file size. (I never elect to disable this dialog.)
But the options dialog and warning have stopped appearing.
The newly saved TIFF file is unusable in other programs (Irfanview, FastStone Viewer, Qimage, others). The file appears corrupt.
But I think what has happened is that the file has been saved with ZIP compression, or ‘per channel’ pixel order, or both. Because the TIFF Options dialog has stopped appearing, I have been unable to alter these settings.
The reason I believe PS has selected one or both of these options: the TIFF Options dialog does appear in other circumstances — for example, when I save to TIFF format without layers. Just within the last couple of days I’ve noticed that at least half the time either Zip compression or ‘per channel’ (or both) is(are) selected — even though I have never selected them myself.
Why have the TIFF options dialog and the warning about layers + file sizes stopped appearing? How can I get at least the TIFF Options dialog to begin appearing again?
I have just found that the dialogs that aren’t appearing do appear if the file as first opened in PS is a JPEG, not a TIFF. The options are set correctly within the dialogs, by default, and there is never a problem with the resulting TIFFs — they can be opened in other programs.
Pure speculation: could these problems possibly be caused by the original TIFF files being conversions from Lightroom 1.3? Is it possible that Lightroom 1.3 is writing something into its TIFF output files that somehow confuses PS CS2?
As the OP, this is what I have found with CS3:
1. I have just made a test with TIFF files that were created with Lightroom and TIFF files created with other software.
2. PS saves TIFF files in the expected way with TIFF files created with software other than Lightroom — layered or not.
3. With TIFF files created with Lightroom, PS saves non-layered TIFF files without compression and in RGBRGB interlaced bit order.
4. If layers are added to the files, they are saved in ZIP compression and RRBBGG bit order. This is where the problem is.
5. If the "Save As" option is used, the user gets to select how the TIFF file is saved — sometimes.
6. For a large job, the only way I have been able to get a decent workflow is to create an action that includes the "Save As" function. PS will respect the Save As specs for all files saved this way.
Often you can include the "Save As" option in an action that does something else you want to do in batch mode. If that isn’t the case, you can create an action that just opens the file and uses the "Save As" option to close it. I have been forced to use this last approach several times. It is a real bummer.
Wil
4. If layers are added to the files, they are saved in ZIP compression and RRBBGG bit order. This is where the problem is.
I think you’re right about that.
5. If the "Save As" option is used, the user gets to select how the TIFF file is saved — sometimes.
When I’ve used ‘save as’ and the original file was one created by Lightroom, the TIFF options dialog never appears. I wonder what change has occurred to make this begin happening. I’ve had Lightroom 1.3 for a while. Could the bug have surfaced just after I installed the latest PS CS2 update? I don’t know.
6. For a large job, the only way I have been able to get a decent workflow is to create an action that includes the "Save As" function. PS will respect the Save As specs for all files saved this way.
I wish I could say the same here. But the program’s "decision" about whether to default to Zip compression or no compression seems unpredictable at the moment. So when the ‘save as’ proceeds with the TIFF Options dialog not having appeared, I have a 50-50 chance of getting an output file I can’t open in some other application.
If you do it with an action, and you get the dialog box when you create the action, those save options are "hard wired" into the action. You can read them in the action if you look. This has worked well with many photos in a single session (50 or more files).
I have found that the first time you use "Save As", you get the undesired result and no dialog box. Then just do "Save As" again, and you’ll get the dialog box.
You should make your action with "Save As" the second time around.
This is all a real drag, and the action thing is the only way I’ve been able to make it work at all.
Wil
Good point about the ‘hard-wiring’ if the action was recorded with the dialog box appearing. I will try this. Thanks kindly for the suggestion.
Right you are that it’s a real drag. I wonder if it’s worth reporting in the Lighroom forum (unless someone already did so) — meaning, if anyone would investigate it as a Lightroom problem.
