Bug in Sketch functions in PS3 & PS2 thanks to Replace Color function

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Phosphor
Feb 4, 2008
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Watch your Foreground/Background colors at the bottom of the Toolbox when you’re sampling in the Replace Color dialogue (or when sampling in the image itself). See how it turns color to match the color you’re sampling?

Try this:

• Open your image.
• Tap the "D" key on your keyboard to return the Foreground & Background colors in your Toolbox to their default black & white, respectively.
• Call up the Replace Color dialogue.
• Move your Eyedropper cursor so it’s over the main image window. • Let loose of your mouse with your hand so it doesn’t move. • Carefully click to sample, but don’t move the mouse.
• Tap your keyboard’s TAB key 3 times–the numerical entry box for the Lightness slider will be highlighted.
• Hold Shift and tap your Up arrow key.
• See how the Foreground Color box in your Toolbox changes? • Carefully click your mouse button again to sample exactly where you did before. • See how the Foreground Color box in your Toolbox changes again? • The numerical field for your Lightness slider should still be highlighted. • Ignoring the Shift key, now, tap your keyboard’s Down arrow once, then your Up arrow once. • Notice the change in your Toolbox’s Foreground color again.

I’m not sure how I might use that behavior of the "Changing Foreground Color Box" to my advantage, but that seems to be the way it works. Since it happens every time, I’m not sure I’d call this a bug. Rather, I’d scratch my head and wonder: "What’s the reason it does that? What did the engineers have in mind for us…how is this changed Foreground color supposed to be employed?"

OK…now that we’ve observed what’s happening in the "Replace Color" dialogue, and how it affects the Foreground Color box, let’s consider the Sketch Filters.

The Sketch Filters you mentioned as appearing not to work (my findings: Bas Relief, Charcoal, Graphic Pen, Halftone Pattern, Photocopy, Plaster, Reticulation, Stamp, & Torn Edges) do their work by calling both the Foreground and Background colors you have set in your Toolbox. If they are the same color—in this example they are both white—all you will see is white. Like painting with bright white ink on a bright white piece of paper, there’s simply no real contrast to create an image. The other Sketch filters that do work under the White/White F.G./B.G. conditions (my findings: Chalk & Charcoal, Chrome, Conté Crayon, Note Paper, Water Paper) seem to get their lightness values a different way. How? I’m not sure.

Sooooo…It’s not that anything gets from the Replace Color dialogue gets loaded into the Sketch Filters…it’s just that the Sketch Filters get their color from the F.G./B.G. colors that are set. Which brings us back around to the same question:

Of what use is that behavior in the Replace Color dialogue, in that it sends values to the Foreground Color box in your Toolbox?

There might be a good reason, but I sure haven’t found one.

The fix for the workflow you’ve described?

After exiting the Replace Color dialogue, tap your keyboard’s "D" key to return your F.G./B.G. colors to their default Black/White.

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Tony_Wellington
Feb 4, 2008
Here’s the response to Phos and Charles which I added to the same Q in the Mac forum:

Thanks Charles & Phos. Yes, everything you say is true, Phos. It still doesn’t, as you say, explain why changes in Replace Color should be organised to alter the bg/fg in the toolbox. It’s not like changes to other Adjustment functions, like shadow/highlight, impact on bg/fg.

I didn’t know about hitting the D to reset. That’s a handy tip.

By the way Charles, I did run through this whole business with a number of different Adobe Help boffins, none of whom could fathom it out. They certainly weren’t even aware that changes in Replace Color affected bg/fg which in turn affects some Sketch functions. And they said the issue had never been raised before.

And why should it affect only some of the functions (like graphic pencil) and not others (like chalk & charcoal)?

I’m not sure I’m going to be quite as defensive of PS as you guys. Your idea of "normal" behaviour is still decidedly weird to me.
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John_Joslin
Feb 4, 2008
I did run through this whole business with a number of different Adobe Help boffins, none of whom could fathom it out.

From what I hear, I think there are more buffoons than boffins in there!
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Phosphor
Feb 4, 2008
"I’ve spoken at length to Adobe, and they asked me to file a bug report."

Well, it clearly isn’t a bug. It’s just an inscrutable bit of software behavior. For them to suggest you file a bug report shows they don’t have the answer, AND they don’t what a bug is.

And besides…who would you rather talk to about this?

People who are good at answering phones, remaining calm in the face of 100 different customers attitudes every day and reading from Customer Service manuals…

OR…

People who use the application every day?

Which group might you guess knows Photoshop better?
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Tony_Wellington
Feb 4, 2008
"Inscrutable bit of software behaviour" sounds like a polite way of saying "bug". My dictionary defines "inscrutable" as "impossible to understand or interpret". Anyway, we agree it’s an oddity.

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