memory page faults on CS3

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Kees van Surksum
Mar 14, 2008
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Hi Everybody,

As I am on the road a lot and want to elaborate my pictures out there, I have installed PS/CS3 on my HP laptop computer (Win XP Pro, Centrino 1,7 MHz, 1,5 Gig RAM).

After everything worked fine, after a while PS started to crash sometimes. I installed an extra 512 MB of RAM, whith unfortunately no noticeable positive effect, neither on speed, neither on the crashes.

It seems to me that the programm gets more instable with an increasing number of images processed subsequently in one cession. If I do not shut down the notebook in standby mode, but do a restart it runs fine for a while again.

Somewhere I read that Win XP stores programm related information even after shutting down the programm or the document. Is this true and is there a way to set Win XP not to do so? IOW can you provoke Win XP to free RAM memory completely before opening a new document?

Thanks for any good suggestion,

Kees

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Toobi-Won Kenobi
Mar 14, 2008
"Kees van Surksum" wrote in message
Hi Everybody,

As I am on the road a lot and want to elaborate my pictures out there, I have installed PS/CS3 on my HP laptop computer (Win XP Pro, Centrino 1,7 MHz, 1,5 Gig RAM).

After everything worked fine, after a while PS started to crash sometimes. I installed an extra 512 MB of RAM, whith unfortunately no noticeable positive effect, neither on speed, neither on the crashes.
It seems to me that the programm gets more instable with an increasing number of images processed subsequently in one cession. If I do not shut down the notebook in standby mode, but do a restart it runs fine for a while again.

Somewhere I read that Win XP stores programm related information even after shutting down the programm or the document. Is this true and is there a way to set Win XP not to do so? IOW can you provoke Win XP to free RAM memory completely before opening a new document?

Thanks for any good suggestion,
Kees,
If you had 1 GB on one stick you needed to add and extra 1 GB also on one stick, not 1/2 GB.
CS2 used to require 280MB of RAM just to run, CS3 a little less, this is without what the OS is using.
Open a couple of 50-60 MB images with their associated history states and you will soon run out of memory.
Try setting your virtual memory to twice your RAM, don’t let Windows manage it, PS can need it before Windows is out of bed.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457057.aspx Switch off compatabilty mode (if you do not use earlier versions)and try reducing your number of History states in Preferences.
Run TaskManager in performance mode in conjuction with PS and see what limits are being hit when you are working.

HTH
TWK
KV
Kees van Surksum
Mar 17, 2008
Toobi-Won Kenobi schreef:
"Kees van Surksum" wrote in message
Kees,
If you had 1 GB on one stick you needed to add and extra 1 GB also on one stick, not 1/2 GB.

Hi Toobi-Won,

It’s the other way round. The original stick had only 512 MB, so I added another 1 Gig. Is this a serious problem? And can I work around it installing another 1 Gig stick in the mainboard slot?

CS2 used to require 280MB of RAM just to run, CS3 a little less, this is without what the OS is using.
Open a couple of 50-60 MB images with their associated history states and you will soon run out of memory.
Try setting your virtual memory to twice your RAM, don’t let Windows manage it, PS can need it before Windows is out of bed.

I did this first. It seemed that it gets somewhat beter. Can be a placebo-effect… 😉

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457057.aspx Switch off compatabilty mode (if you do not use earlier versions)and try reducing your number of History states in Preferences.

I still have to try this, but I will report back as ASAP. Thanks so far!!

Run TaskManager in performance mode in conjuction with PS and see what limits are being hit when you are working.

HTH
TWK

KV
Kees van Surksum
Mar 17, 2008
Toobi-Won Kenobi schreef:
Switch off compatabilty mode (if you do not use earlier versions)and try reducing your number of History states in Preferences.
Run TaskManager in performance mode in conjuction with PS and see what limits are being hit when you are working.
In the dialog box for these options I discovered also a slider to set the use of RAM by PS. In my cas it took 55% of the available 1102 MB. With TaskManager I already noticed, that loading layered psd-images took already up to 500 MB of RAM thus nearing the limits of this setting. This explains my "out of memory-messages" while closing down with a lot of information on the clip board or while opening plug-ins like Fluid Mask or Photmatix. These errors don’t occur when I run Photomatix in stand alone mode outside the PS-environment. That would explain a lot….

For a start I moved up the slider to the maximum recommended amount of 798 MB (appr. 70% of the RAM the system leaves free). I could move up to 1102 MB because usually I don’t run PS parallel to other applications.

I will report back my experiences.
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
Mar 18, 2008
"Kees van Surksum" wrote in message
Toobi-Won Kenobi schreef:
Switch off compatabilty mode (if you do not use earlier versions)and try reducing your number of History states in Preferences.
Run TaskManager in performance mode in conjuction with PS and see what limits are being hit when you are working.
In the dialog box for these options I discovered also a slider to set the use of RAM by PS. In my cas it took 55% of the available 1102 MB. With TaskManager I already noticed, that loading layered psd-images took already up to 500 MB of RAM thus nearing the limits of this setting. This explains my "out of memory-messages" while closing down with a lot of information on the clip board or while opening plug-ins like Fluid Mask or Photmatix. These errors don’t occur when I run Photomatix in stand alone mode outside the PS-environment. That would explain a lot….
For a start I moved up the slider to the maximum recommended amount of 798 MB (appr. 70% of the RAM the system leaves free). I could move up to 1102 MB because usually I don’t run PS parallel to other applications.
I will report back my experiences.
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
Mar 18, 2008
"Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote in message
"Kees van Surksum" wrote in message
Toobi-Won Kenobi schreef:
Switch off compatabilty mode (if you do not use earlier versions)and try reducing your number of History states in Preferences. Run TaskManager in performance mode in conjuction with PS and see what limits are being hit when you are working.
In the dialog box for these options I discovered also a slider to set the use of RAM by PS. In my cas it took 55% of the available 1102 MB. With TaskManager I already noticed, that loading layered psd-images took already up to 500 MB of RAM thus nearing the limits of this setting. This explains my "out of memory-messages" while closing down with a lot of information on the clip board or while opening plug-ins like Fluid Mask or Photmatix. These errors don’t occur when I run Photomatix in stand alone mode outside the PS-environment. That would explain a lot….
For a start I moved up the slider to the maximum recommended amount of 798 MB (appr. 70% of the RAM the system leaves free). I could move up to 1102 MB because usually I don’t run PS parallel to other applications.
I will report back my experiences.
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
Mar 18, 2008
"Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote in message
"Kees van Surksum" wrote in message
Toobi-Won Kenobi schreef:
Switch off compatabilty mode (if you do not use earlier versions)and try reducing your number of History states in Preferences. Run TaskManager in performance mode in conjuction with PS and see what limits are being hit when you are working.
In the dialog box for these options I discovered also a slider to set the use of RAM by PS. In my cas it took 55% of the available 1102 MB. With TaskManager I already noticed, that loading layered psd-images took already up to 500 MB of RAM thus nearing the limits of this setting. This explains my "out of memory-messages" while closing down with a lot of information on the clip board or while opening plug-ins like Fluid Mask or Photmatix. These errors don’t occur when I run Photomatix in stand alone mode outside the PS-environment. That would explain a lot….
For a start I moved up the slider to the maximum recommended amount of 798 MB (appr. 70% of the RAM the system leaves free). I could move up to 1102 MB because usually I don’t run PS parallel to other applications.
I will report back my experiences.
Kees,

55% memory is considered to be the optimum memory allocation for PS, increasing the ammount past this can cause problems with the OS. Rather than increase the allocation it is better to increase the ammount of RAM.
Added memory idealy needs to be in matched pairs, 2 x 512, 2 x 1GB etc., Did you try reducing the history states in preferences?

TWK
KV
Kees van Surksum
Mar 28, 2008
I will report back my experiences.
Kees,

55% memory is considered to be the optimum memory allocation for PS, increasing the ammount past this can cause problems with the OS. Rather than increase the allocation it is better to increase the ammount of RAM.
Added memory idealy needs to be in matched pairs, 2 x 512, 2 x 1GB etc., Did you try reducing the history states in preferences?

TWK
Hi Toobi-Won,

Took a while to get back to this issue because I was on the road once again. So far I have noticed a slight improvement after I allocated more RAM to PS. Now I suffer hardly any memory problems. You were right about the immense amount of RAM neccesary to perform tasks in multiple layers on for instance RAW files.

What the unequal memory bits concernes, the problems I reported started way before I changed the second 512 MB for a 1 Gig, so you may be right about that, but in my opinion it has nothing to do with the problem reported. Nevertheless I will consider bying another 1 Gig bit to put into the main slot.

And yes, I reduced the historie states also, maybe that did the rest…

Thanks for your help.

Kees
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
Mar 28, 2008
"Kees van Surksum" wrote in message
I will report back my experiences.
Kees,

55% memory is considered to be the optimum memory allocation for PS, increasing the ammount past this can cause problems with the OS. Rather than increase the allocation it is better to increase the ammount of RAM.
Added memory idealy needs to be in matched pairs, 2 x 512, 2 x 1GB etc., Did you try reducing the history states in preferences?

TWK
Hi Toobi-Won,

Took a while to get back to this issue because I was on the road once again. So far I have noticed a slight improvement after I allocated more RAM to PS. Now I suffer hardly any memory problems. You were right about the immense amount of RAM neccesary to perform tasks in multiple layers on for instance RAW files.

What the unequal memory bits concernes, the problems I reported started way before I changed the second 512 MB for a 1 Gig, so you may be right about that, but in my opinion it has nothing to do with the problem reported. Nevertheless I will consider bying another 1 Gig bit to put into the main slot.

And yes, I reduced the historie states also, maybe that did the rest…
Thanks for your help.
Hello Kees,

Glad to help, you should see a little improvement when ypu match your RAM sticke, possibly more if you MB has dual controllers.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/133

Regards
TWK
KV
Kees van Surksum
Apr 4, 2008
Hello Kees,

Glad to help, you should see a little improvement when ypu match your RAM sticke, possibly more if you MB has dual controllers.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/133

Regards
TWK

Hi,

After I experienced some shutdowns again. I decided to do the final test. I went to the website you advised me, but there they did not say anything against unequal memory sticks.

But I thought I understood it matters which stick is in which slot. So I opened up my laptop and exchanged the memory sticks, so that the biggest one is in the primary slot and the original 512 MB in the secondary slot. And guess what…??? No problems whatsoever anymore……!!

Even with 1,2 Gigs RAM in use PS keeps running like hell.

I’m glad and hope I can help somebody else with this information.

Best regards
Kees
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
Apr 5, 2008
"ac4851" wrote in message
Hello Kees,

Glad to help, you should see a little improvement when ypu match your RAM sticke, possibly more if you MB has dual controllers.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/133

Regards
TWK

Hi,

After I experienced some shutdowns again. I decided to do the final test. I went to the website you advised me, but there they did not say anything against unequal memory sticks.

But I thought I understood it matters which stick is in which slot. So I opened up my laptop and exchanged the memory sticks, so that the biggest one is in the primary slot and the original 512 MB in the secondary slot. And guess what…??? No problems whatsoever anymore……!!
Even with 1,2 Gigs RAM in use PS keeps running like hell.
I’m glad and hope I can help somebody else with this information.
Best regards
Kees
Hello Kees,
Thanks for the update

Regards
TWK

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