what format?
just dragging it from Photoshop will give you just a screen grab which is usually 72ppi
It should be showing up at 1 inch square in Illustrator. I’d ignore the pixel dimensions in Illy. They don’t really indicate the resolution of a placed image file.
Pixel units in AI just show the dimensions of the file based on an arbitrary 72 pixel per inch unit of measure. Since your print size is one inch, it will show 72 px X 72 px dimension.
Hello, and thank you for the quick responses…
How do you place an image in Illustrator at its true size and resolution? Can this be done?
I did not know "Just dragging it from Photoshop will give you just a screen grab which is usually 72ppi." Thank you for explaining that. It helps understand what is happening. I thought by dragging it over (or placing it) I was actually inserting the image into my Illustrator document at full resolution and size. Can you do that, and how?
Also, concerning the answer "I’d ignore the pixel dimensions in Illy." I am looking at the Transform palette to see the dimensions of the image. When I create a 300 x 300 pixel square in Illustrator on the same page as the placed image from Photoshop, the square drawn in Illustrator is much larger than the placed image from Photoshop.
I’m sorry for the basic questions, but I’m just stumped on this one.
I am creating a splash screen in Photoshop. I am creating it at 300 ppi because I also need print resolution of the image.
Thanks again!
Thank you.
I posted this on Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator because the two programs are measuring and sizing the same image differently.
I am not familiar with Illustrator but if dragging does not work, just save the image (300 x 300 pixel) from PS into a format that Ill will open. Then open it in ILL. Should be straight forward.
Ed
Go chase the link I already posted.
Then chase the link in that thread.
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Thank you, Phos±four dots: I did read the "Crisp Screen Shots" forum discussion at www.webmasterworld.com (the link in the "Imported Image Resolution" topic on Adobe Forums). While interesting, it doesn’t provide an answer to my question because I am creating my image in Photoshop at 300 ppi to begin with, so I am not trying to increase the resolution of a 72 ppi screenshot. I am trying to place a 300 ppi Photoshop image into Illustrator at the its true size and resolution.
Thank you, Ed: I did save the Photoshop file as another file type, but when I place it in Illustrator (using File > Place) is is still tiny.
I am totally stumped and have been struggling with this for days now. Is there anyone that knows how to place an image in Illustrator at it’s true size?
We don’t know we’re just Photoshop hacks.
All I can say is "dragging" is not "placing".
wcwarren,
please reread my post. Your answer is there.
The ppi unit of measure in AI is arbitrary as pixels have no real set size. All it is telling you is that the image you placed takes up x units by x units (x in this case = 1/72", based on 72 ppi) Change your unit of measure in AI to inches, or any other real-world scale other than pixels. The placed image retains the resolution it had in Photoshop.
Pixels, as a unit of measure in AI, DO NOT equate to the actual pixels making up a raster image placed in Illustrator. They are two distinct things.
Thank you, Charles Badland:
Is my understanding correct that Illustrator and Photoshop convert pixel width and height to inches differently? And, are you recommending that I specify my width and height in Photoshop in inches, not pixels?
I always work in either inches or picas (certainly both are "real-world scales" as you note) in Illustrator (Edit > Preferences > Units & Display Performance > General Inches).
I referenced pixels because Photoshop is a pixel-based program.
In Photoshop I work in inches or in pixels, depending on what Im creating.
I trust Illustrator and Photoshop to give me conversions of pixels to inches and vice versa, but I had no idea that they would be different, and I do not understand why at this time. What explains this?
While I understand pixels are units of measure for screen display, the image itself must have a true size (and resolution), which when enlarged and printed (beyond the true size) becomes pixilated. (I know this is correct. For example, right click and save any image from the Web, then enlarge it beyond its true size, and the printed copy will be pixilated.)
Working in Illustrator: When I enter pixel width and pixel height in the Rectangle Options, the measurements automatically convert to inches. Thus, entering 300 px (width) and 300 px (height) yields a square of 4.1667 x 4.1667 inches, as Illustrator automatically converts the pixel dimensions to inches. Also, this is shown in the Transform palette.
Is this a correct size, or simply arbitrary?
Photoshop also creates a size in inches based on the pixel width and pixel height specified, but it is different. For example, entering 300 px for both width and height yields a 1 x 1 inch image (Image > Image Size).
When I created my Photoshop document, I entered the pixel width and height I needed, not inches.
Following your explanation, I experimented by creating two documents in Photoshop: (1) Specifying width and height in inches (rather than pixels); and (2) Specifying width and height in pixels (rather than inches). When I placed the *.PSD files into Illustrator (Edit > Place) on the same page, side by side, sure enough, their sizes are different. Wow! Since both are coming from the same program, why are the different? And, which size is correct?
Of course, when saving the documents in Photoshop, the one created in inches yields a much larger file size (which may create problems of its own that I will have to handle next).
Thank you again for your answers, and please let me know if my understanding is wrong.
Does anyone know why Photoshop and Illustrator would convert pixel dimensions to inches differently? And, is there any way to program Photoshop to convert pixels to inches in the same way as Illustrator to eliminate mismatched image sizes?
What Im saying is: dont worry about it.
AI reads the physical (i.e. print) dimensions (inches, cm, points
whatever) of a placed raster file. It takes no notice of and does not change its ppi.
Dont use the pixel unit of measure in AI to judge the resolution of placed file. Just get the print size and res you want an image to be while in Photoshop, then place it in Illustrator.
Alls good.
As a test, save a 600 x 300 pixel file in PS with Image Size/Document Size set at 300 ppi. Open the View menu and select the "Print Size" option. You’ll see the same small image you saw in AI.
Or, if you leave PS in its "Actual Pixels" mode, change doc size resolution to 72 ppi, *don’t* resample, but re-save. Now re-open in AI and the image size should match what you see in PS.
Generally, PS shows pixel size and AI shows print size, which accounts for why there’s often an on-screen size difference.
