Standard toolbar in Photoshop

Hi all,

I saw a few threads previously generated on this, and I wanted to emphasize it once more:

I saw that a similar message was posted in 2002. Now it’s 2008, and I am having the same problem!

It’s ridiculous to port a software like this, and with this price, to Windows environment, and not incorporate standard-of-the-industry stuff, like a "Standard" toolbar with open, new, cut, copy, paste etc. Photoshop has all these ‘Workspaces’, and NONE of them have such a toolbar. I also could not find a way of creating a custom toolbar into which I can add these icons.

I was happily using Corel since version 3, and was recently "forced" to use Photoshop at work. It’s all coming back to me why I never got into Adobe products: They look and act like Apple (Mac) software, even if you have the windows version, and it’s anything but intuitive to use for a veteran windows user.

It’s a shame really, since I believe that more windows users would be willing to use Photoshop, if it was more "windows-user" friendly.
Now, the real question: Are there any plugins that plug this large hole?

Thanks.

All these operations are easily carried out via keyboard shortcuts and I would think that it would be second nature to a "veteran" windows user. Taking your hands off the keyboard to carry out such simple tasks only slows you down.
I have used a "windows" version of PS since 1996 and have never found the lack of what you seek a problem.
TWK

On Apr 9, 12:03 pm, "Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote:

All these operations are easily carried out via keyboard shortcuts and I would think that it would be second nature to a "veteran" windows user. Taking your hands off the keyboard to carry out such simple tasks only slows
you down.
I have used a "windows" version of PS since 1996 and have never found the lack of what you seek a problem.
TWK

This is the disadvantage of posting for help into a fan-forum: Instead of helpful advice and objective comments, you get flamed. FYI, one individual’s personal experience and needs does not change the consensus. In windows environment, a standard toolbar is called as is for a reason. Sometimes, convenience, intuition and speed may not be mutually existent.

Now, anyone with a real answer to my question?

Thanks.

On Apr 9, 12:03 pm, "Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote:

All these operations are easily carried out via keyboard shortcuts and I would think that it would be second nature to a "veteran" windows user. Taking your hands off the keyboard to carry out such simple tasks only slows
you down.
I have used a "windows" version of PS since 1996 and have never found the lack of what you seek a problem.
TWK

This is the disadvantage of posting for help into a fan-forum: Instead of helpful advice and objective comments, you get flamed. FYI, one individual’s personal experience and needs does not change the consensus. In windows environment, a standard toolbar is called as is for a reason. Sometimes, convenience, intuition and speed may not be mutually existent.

Now, anyone with a real answer to my question?

Thanks.

Flamed?
If I have flamed you, you are the first one I have ever flamed!

So, saying "I would think that it would be second nature to a "veteran" windows user." Is not a suggestive and arrogant flaming statement on your part then.

You need to get out more!

See, you did it again! This is flaming, since it’s a personal insult statement. Keep your irrelevant personal comments to your personal self please, since I certainly do not need them. Post only relevant info in a forum or discussioun group (you need to read the etiquette apparently).
GT

ok, let’s try this again. I’ll simplify my question trying to clarify it, so that, I may get an answer:

Is there a Photoshop plugin that adds a "Standard toolbar" to Photoshop CS3?

ok, let’s try this again. I’ll simplify my question trying to clarify it, so that, I may get an answer:

Is there a Photoshop plugin that adds a "Standard toolbar" to Photoshop CS3?

Thank you.

GT

Hi all,

I saw a few threads previously generated on this, and I wanted to emphasize it once more:

I saw that a similar message was posted in 2002. Now it’s 2008, and I am having the same problem!

It’s ridiculous to port a software like this, and with this price, to Windows environment, and not incorporate standard-of-the-industry stuff, like a "Standard" toolbar with open, new, cut, copy, paste etc. Photoshop has all these ‘Workspaces’, and NONE of them have such a toolbar. I also could not find a way of creating a custom toolbar into which I can add these icons.

I was happily using Corel since version 3, and was recently "forced" to use Photoshop at work. It’s all coming back to me why I never got into Adobe products: They look and act like Apple (Mac) software, even if you have the windows version, and it’s anything but intuitive to use for a veteran windows user.

It’s a shame really, since I believe that more windows users would be willing to use Photoshop, if it was more "windows-user" friendly.
Now, the real question: Are there any plugins that plug this large hole?

Thanks.

What in the world is your problem? Open up PS CS (any version) and across the top is a toolbar. Look closely, you will see file, edit, image, layer, select, filter, view, window, and help. These are in Windows type format. Click on any these headings and just like Windows, additional options appear. Now if you are confused between a toolbar and pallettes, try reading through the PS help pdf. Clicking on a pallette item changes the 2nd line of the tool bar to show options specific to that pallette action or item.

What the heck is "standard" these days anyway? I have Office 2007 and there is no standard one size fits all toolbar. Everything in the Office 2007 toolbars can be customized to fit the needs of the individual user, but no file-edit-view-tools-windows-help standard toolbar. I suppose "forced" learning of an application is difficult.

Perhaps you can find something herehttp://www.pluginsworld.com/though Personally and only being an amateur photographer & PS CS2/3 user I’ve neither ever missed nor ever heard of such a plugin either, though 8-} Cheers,
Juergen

ok, let’s try this again. I’ll simplify my question trying to clarify it, so that, I may get an answer:

Is there a Photoshop plugin that adds a "Standard toolbar" to Photoshop CS3?

What you talkin bout?
The top menu bar on CS3 conforms to Windows standards.
If you want to see a horrible non-standard mess take a look at Office 2007: my nominee for the worst user interface ever created for any program ever. Microsoft tossed away over 15 years of a stable interface design for this monstrosity. Of course, Microsoft also put out Vista, which explains alot.
Yes, Adobe has a solid core of Macmorons.These people still are inordinately represented in the media perpetrating misinformation about color management and user interface (as if CS3 is a different program, apart from the idiosyncratic Mac keyboard commands, on the Mac). However it has been reported that due to the unstable, proprietary development platform mess that is the Mac OS even Adobe is not preparing 64 bit CS4 for the Mac OS.
Finalmente, I used Corel Photopaint for a few years: Photoshop, arcane as it can be, is a breath of clarity by comparison.

Jeez guys lighten up.
Just because someone does things differently from you doesn’t make them smarter, dumber, better or worse. If you have a pointer for this guy, please post it, if not, please just keep quiet.

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What you talkin bout?
The top menu bar on CS3 conforms to Windows standards.
If you want to see a horrible non-standard mess take a look at Office 2007: my nominee for the worst user interface ever created for any program ever. Microsoft tossed away over 15 years of a stable interface design for this monstrosity. Of course, Microsoft also put out Vista, which explains alot.
Yes, Adobe has a solid core of Macmorons.These people still are inordinately represented in the media perpetrating misinformation about color management and user interface (as if CS3 is a different program, apart from the idiosyncratic Mac keyboard commands, on the Mac). However it has been reported that due to the unstable, proprietary development platform mess that is the Mac OS even Adobe is not preparing 64 bit CS4 for the Mac OS.
Finalmente, I used Corel Photopaint for a few years: Photoshop, arcane as it can be, is a breath of clarity by comparison.

I could not find a way of customizing toolbars in PS. Please let me know how, if it’s possible create a new toolbar, and add standard- toolbar butons, such as open, cut, copy, paste, save, onto this custom- toolbar.