CS3 colors?

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Bishoop
May 27, 2008
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Hi,

I used Photoshop 7 for a very long time, until about a month ago, when I finally upgraded to CS3. I started noticing slight differences in the way colors look. Generally, my photos just look more grainy — kind of like what happens when you do a crappy job of adjusting the "contrast" settings.

So I wasn’t sure at first if the problem was Photoshop, or maybe one of the exposure/ISO settings on my camera. So I tried loading my images in IrfanView (just a freeware image viewer), and they look like I expected them to look — like they used to look in Photoshop 7. To verify, I used the color sampler tool in both Photoshop CS3 and Irfanview, and sure enough, the colors are actually different. In CS3, the darks are slightly darker and the lights are slightly lighter. The net result is an ugly, grainy mess, while Irfanview shows a nice, smooth image.

So what is this new "suck mode" in CS3 and how do I turn it off? I played around with the "Color Settings" in the Edit menu, but nothing made much difference. But I don’t really know what I’m doing in there, so who knows…

Thanks.

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TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
May 28, 2008
"Your Name" wrote in message
Hi,

I used Photoshop 7 for a very long time, until about a month ago, when I finally upgraded to CS3. I started noticing slight differences in the way colors look. Generally, my photos just look more grainy — kind of like what happens when you do a crappy job of adjusting the "contrast" settings.

So I wasn’t sure at first if the problem was Photoshop, or maybe one of the
exposure/ISO settings on my camera. So I tried loading my images in IrfanView (just a freeware image viewer), and they look like I expected them to look — like they used to look in Photoshop 7. To verify, I used the color sampler tool in both Photoshop CS3 and Irfanview, and sure enough, the colors are actually different. In CS3, the darks are slightly darker and the lights are slightly lighter. The net result is an ugly, grainy mess, while Irfanview shows a nice, smooth image.
So what is this new "suck mode" in CS3 and how do I turn it off? I played around with the "Color Settings" in the Edit menu, but nothing made much difference. But I don’t really know what I’m doing in there, so who knows…

Thanks.

Is your monitor calibrated?
PS is a colour managed application, others are not.
If you got away with not calibrating your monitor for PS7, you were lucky, CS3 is less forgiving.
See http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps9_colour/ps9_1.htm It was written for CS2 butthe same applies.
TWK
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Bishoop
May 28, 2008
"Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote:

Is your monitor calibrated?
PS is a colour managed application, others are not.
If you got away with not calibrating your monitor for PS7, you were lucky, CS3 is less forgiving.
See http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps9_colour/ps9_1.htm It was written for CS2 butthe same applies.
TWK

Well, let me put it more simply. Images look GOOD in a plain old image viewer, or web browser, or Photoshop 7, or anything else, and BAD in Photoshop CS3. How do I disable whatever it is that Photoshop CS3 is doing to make the images look different from every other application?
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
May 28, 2008
"Your Name" wrote in message
"Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote:

Is your monitor calibrated?
PS is a colour managed application, others are not.
If you got away with not calibrating your monitor for PS7, you were lucky, CS3 is less forgiving.
See http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps9_colour/ps9_1.htm It was written for CS2 butthe same applies.
TWK

Well, let me put it more simply. Images look GOOD in a plain old image viewer, or web browser, or Photoshop 7, or anything else, and BAD in Photoshop CS3. How do I disable whatever it is that Photoshop CS3 is doing
to make the images look different from every other application?

You put it simply enough for me the first time!
There is nothing to disable.
All the other applications that you are seeing the "correct" colours in are not colour managed.
You need to calibrate yiour monitor.
TWK
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Bishoop
May 29, 2008
"Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote:

There is nothing to disable.
All the other applications that you are seeing the "correct" colours in are not colour managed.
You need to calibrate yiour monitor.
TWK

Wow, this is terrible… After some searching, I see that lots of peopls are having this same problem with CS3.

I understand that Adobe thinks that this new "managed" crap is great, but I don’t, and lots of other users don’t. I want an image in Photoshop to look just like it does in every other application. Whether or not Adobe feels that this is the "correct" representation of the picture is completely meaningless to me.

There HAS to be a way to disable this. Well, one simple way comes to mind: uninstalling CS3. But the developers at Adobe are smart enough to have an alternative, hopefully…
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
May 29, 2008
"Your Name" wrote in message
"Toobi-Won Kenobi" <Toobi-won > wrote:

There is nothing to disable.
All the other applications that you are seeing the "correct" colours in are not colour managed.
You need to calibrate yiour monitor.
TWK

Wow, this is terrible… After some searching, I see that lots of peopls are having this same problem with CS3.

They also need to calibrate, simple.

I understand that Adobe thinks that this new "managed" crap is great, but I
don’t, and lots of other users don’t. I want an image in Photoshop to look
just like it does in every other application. Whether or not Adobe feels that this is the "correct" representation of the picture is completely meaningless to me.

There HAS to be a way to disable this. Well, one simple way comes to mind:
uninstalling CS3. But the developers at Adobe are smart enough to have an alternative, hopefully…

Photoshop has always been colour managed.
If you have not seen this problem with PS7, you have been fortunate. I had the same problem with PSCS, calibrated the monitor and problem went. Did you calibrate PS7 with AdobeGamma or are you using an LCD? TWK
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Bishoop
May 29, 2008
Your Name wrote:

There HAS to be a way to disable this. Well, one simple way comes to mind: uninstalling CS3. But the developers at Adobe are smart enough to have an alternative, hopefully…

That was easy. I don’t know that this will work for everyone, but it works perfectly on my system. Go to "Color Settings" on the Edit menu. In the main drop-down box, select "Monitor Color." This should also cause the following options to be set:

Color Management Policies
RGB: Off
CMYK: Off
Gray: Off

My guess is that in order for the "Monitor Color" option to be available, you will need to have a valid driver installed for your monitor.

With this setting, the colors displayed in CS3 match exactly the colors in every other application.

Hope that helps.
TK
Toobi-Won Kenobi
May 29, 2008
"Your Name" wrote in message
Your Name wrote:

There HAS to be a way to disable this. Well, one simple way comes to mind: uninstalling CS3. But the developers at Adobe are smart enough to have an alternative, hopefully…

That was easy. I don’t know that this will work for everyone, but it works
perfectly on my system. Go to "Color Settings" on the Edit menu. In the main drop-down box, select "Monitor Color." This should also cause the following options to be set:

Color Management Policies
RGB: Off
CMYK: Off
Gray: Off

My guess is that in order for the "Monitor Color" option to be available, you will need to have a valid driver installed for your monitor.
With this setting, the colors displayed in CS3 match exactly the colors in every other application.

Hope that helps.

Not really.
If you are using "monitor colour" as your working space the colours will only be correct for your monitor.
Try doing some colour corrections and view the image on another monitor. What do your efforts look like in print?
http://www.udel.edu/cookbook/scan-print/workspace/workspace. pdf

TWK
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Jim
May 30, 2008
"Your Name" wrote in message
Hi,

I used Photoshop 7 for a very long time, until about a month ago, when I finally upgraded to CS3. I started noticing slight differences in the way colors look. Generally, my photos just look more grainy — kind of like what happens when you do a crappy job of adjusting the "contrast" settings.

So I wasn’t sure at first if the problem was Photoshop, or maybe one of the
exposure/ISO settings on my camera. So I tried loading my images in IrfanView (just a freeware image viewer), and they look like I expected them to look — like they used to look in Photoshop 7. To verify, I used the color sampler tool in both Photoshop CS3 and Irfanview, and sure enough, the colors are actually different. In CS3, the darks are slightly darker and the lights are slightly lighter. The net result is an ugly, grainy mess, while Irfanview shows a nice, smooth image.
So what is this new "suck mode" in CS3 and how do I turn it off? I played around with the "Color Settings" in the Edit menu, but nothing made much difference. But I don’t really know what I’m doing in there, so who knows…

Thanks.
Both PS7 and CS3 are color managed. I see no difference between the way PS7 displayed images and the way that CS3 displays images.
However, I regularly make new profiles for the monitor. These things wear out over time, and mine (a nine year old Sony) is darker every time that I create a new profile.
Jim
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TJ
May 30, 2008
Go into Edit > Color Settings & change the default Dot Grain 20% to Gray Gamma 2.2. Then you’ll have the same grayscale profile you had in PS7. For RGB, the most commonly used is: sRGB IEC61966-2.1. With these settings, you’ll also be using the ones most commonly recommended for the web.

Also, tick the boxes to ‘Ask when Opening’ for Profile Mismatches & Missing Profiles. That way, you’ll be able to change the color profiles when opening an image.

Hope this helps.

TJ

Your Name wrote:
Hi,

I used Photoshop 7 for a very long time, until about a month ago, when I finally upgraded to CS3. I started noticing slight differences in the way colors look. Generally, my photos just look more grainy — kind of like what happens when you do a crappy job of adjusting the "contrast" settings.
So I wasn’t sure at first if the problem was Photoshop, or maybe one of the exposure/ISO settings on my camera. So I tried loading my images in IrfanView (just a freeware image viewer), and they look like I expected them to look — like they used to look in Photoshop 7. To verify, I used the color sampler tool in both Photoshop CS3 and Irfanview, and sure enough, the colors are actually different. In CS3, the darks are slightly darker and the lights are slightly lighter. The net result is an ugly, grainy mess, while Irfanview shows a nice, smooth image.
So what is this new "suck mode" in CS3 and how do I turn it off? I played around with the "Color Settings" in the Edit menu, but nothing made much difference. But I don’t really know what I’m doing in there, so who knows…

Thanks.

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