Preserve Camera Info/Meta Data in Photoshop 10

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stevezynda
Aug 20, 2008
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I have Photoshop 10.0 (Windows XP) and use it to edit my photos from my new Nikon D300 camera. I create and maintain my images in JPG format. My D300 includes 40 to 50 camera info/metadata elements including the camera and lens settings at the time the photo is taken. When I do a simple "Save As" in Photoshop 10 to a new JPG file (whether image adjustments are done to the source image or not), the new JPG file is stripped of about half or more of the original metadata. Is there a Photoshop setting or plug-in that will force the software to preserve/retain the original metadata?

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John Joslin
Aug 21, 2008
Why on earth aren’t you shooting raw images?
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stevezynda
Aug 21, 2008
Good Question. Mostly, I am a pre-amature photographer that buys very high end equipment and I am still learning. The other challenge is space/size issues. On my recent trips to India and Africa, I came back with 3,000 to 4,000 pictures from each trip. Since none of my pictures will be published in National Geographic, and my home slide show viewers won’t know the difference, I shoot in JPG where I can control the size at about 5MB per picture.

By the nature of your question, is it true the RAW images retain all their meta data? Please confirm.

I would simply use the Nikon Capture NX software, but their "Auto Levels" algorithm washes out most photos so that they look over exposed, but the Nikon software preserves all the Nikon metadata. Adobe on the other hand has the better "Auto Levels" algorithm, but screws up my metadata. Such a paradox.
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Jim
Aug 21, 2008
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Good Question. Mostly, I am a pre-amature photographer that buys very high end equipment and I am still learning. The other challenge is space/size issues. On my recent trips to India and Africa, I came back with 3,000 to 4,000 pictures from each trip. Since none of my pictures will be published in National Geographic, and my home slide show viewers won’t know the difference, I shoot in JPG where I can control the size at about 5MB per picture.

By the nature of your question, is it true the RAW images retain all their meta data? Please confirm.
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I would simply use the Nikon Capture NX software, but their "Auto Levels" algorithm washes out most photos so that they look over exposed, but the Nikon software preserves all the Nikon metadata. Adobe on the other hand has the better "Auto Levels" algorithm, but screws up my metadata. Such a paradox.
If you shoot RAW, Adobe Camera Raw saves the metadata in a file with the extension "xmp". ACR does not modify the RAW file though. Jim
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John Joslin
Aug 21, 2008
You really need to consider using the raw format. Memory cards are cheap these days and you have so many advantages over the compressed JPEG.

Do a bit of reading: I can recommend Real World Camera Raw. < http://www.amazon.com/Real-World-Camera-Adobe-Photoshop/dp/0 321518675/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=121934 6706&sr=8-1>

You certainly won’t lose metadata that way, in fact although "Save for Web…" strips metadata I didn’t know "Save as… " did. Why not just straight "Save"?
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stevezynda
Aug 21, 2008
I use the batch automation of Adobe Photoshop to run through my photos and do "Auto Levels" to all photos and Save As with a new name (original name + "cc")
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John Joslin
Aug 21, 2008
Well if that’s good enough for you I’ll bow out right here.
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jcates
Aug 21, 2008
Never did figure out (or care, really) what RAW was/is. I really just do product photography. One of the cameras I use (mine, not the company’s) can shoot RAW files but I’ve never bothered with it.

What’s so special about RAW over TIF anyway?
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Freeagent
Aug 21, 2008
jcates

Aside from the fact that Raw is completely non-destructive and lets you reverse anything you do, at any time?

Aside from the fact that you have the full set of data from the sensor to play with, instead of the camera manufacturer’s idea of what should be kept and what thrown away?

You’re kidding, right? 8)
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Buko
Aug 21, 2008
What’s so special about RAW

Think of it this way.

Raw = a negative.

Tif or Jpeg = a polaroid print.

now what would you rather make enlargements in the darkroom from?
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Curvemeister
Aug 21, 2008
What’s so special about RAW over TIF anyway?

Nothing whatsoever.
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stevezynda
Aug 21, 2008
Thank You everyone for sharing the merits of RAW. But, back to my question/problem as RAW is not feasible for me right now…

When I do a simple "Save As" in Photoshop 10 to a new JPG file (whether image adjustments are done to the source image or not), the new JPG file is stripped of about half or more of the original metadata. Is there a Photoshop setting or plug-in that will force the software to preserve/retain the original metadata?
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mikedivita
Aug 30, 2008
I sort of just stumbled on this myself. I found that using "Save For Web" strips out almost all metadata and keywords. If I used "Save as", everything was intact. That doesn’t quite match up with your findings. Are you doing it in a batch mode or one at a time? I only tried one at a time.
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Robert_Barnett
Aug 30, 2008
Save for web is designed to give you files that are as small as possible. Removing all or nearly all metadate helps makes the files smaller. If you need the metadata on the web then don’t use save for web.

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Nestor_Morejon
Sep 2, 2008
I have both the raw and jpeg versions of my photo, with the default metadata. I would like to use the filename as a label on the actual photo. I used Bridge, with Picture Package, but it was too difficult and did not do what I needed. I have 100 pictures in a labrary and I want to do some kind of batch function to take the filename and put it on the picture itselft. This is helpful for giving out proofs, with the file name right on the picture, so when people review them in an album it’s easy for them to place the order. Is there a way to do this through bridge or photoshop directly? Even if I have to do one picture at a time.

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